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Hi Dr:

On July 24, 2006, I had unprotected sex with my boyfriend of 2 years both vaginally and anal. A few days later he left me and told me he had never been faithful to me...He said that he didn't always use protection. About a week later I started running a fever of 99.2-99.5, was extremley tired, soft lose stool and my tongue turned white. I was so afraid I got HIV so I got tested at 10 days negative, 39 days negative and 58 days negative. After my 58 day test (8 weeks) I calmed down and wasn't so stressed out. However, I still have a white, dry tongue and feel like my mouth is disgusting.  I am going to get my 86 day test on October 18.. Is there a good chance I am going to test positive with my tongue being white? Its not a coating or thrush but a white film that won't go away.. .. Please help I am scared to death, I am only 28 and trusted this person with my life... HELP
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239123 tn?1267647614
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Relax.  I'm sorry you were treated so shabbily and I know it doesn't feel good.  But the chance you got HIV is very low.  More important, symptoms simply do not matter and yours mean absolutely nothing.  Only the test results matter, and yours are negative.  (For innumerable discussions about symptoms, search the archives and threads for "HIV symptoms" and "ARS symptoms".)  Your negative test result at 8 weeks PROVE you do not have HIV; you don't need a 3 month test.  (Search for "time to positive HIV test".)

The more serious potential health risk from your partner's behavior is for more common STDs.  You need to be tested for gonorrhea, chlamydia, and syphilis, and possibly herpes, if that hasn't been done.  But mellow out about HIV.  You don't have it.

Good luck--  HHH, MD
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Thank you for your answer..and your thoughtfulness.... I am just so worried because of this white tongue.. Why don't I need the 86 day test? My doctor told me I had to be tested at 3, 6, 9, 12... weeks.. I am sure my questions are silly, I am just scared.. and I will be honest I keep researching on the internet and I keep finding all sorts of things.. especially about white tongue.
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Oh I have been tested for all the other STD' and those came back negative with the exception to Hepatitis B. My dr said I could have gotten that anywhere though.
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sweetie, you are totally fine. a negative hiv test at four weeks is all you need okay!!! and you waited even longer and still tested negative, so you're in the clear. I'm so sorry about this guy, wow, what a waste of skin. just be glad you're done with it and that you dont have to put up with him anymore.
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I keep reading though that any test before 12-13 weeks in inconculusive...
239123 tn?1267647614
MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
See my original reaply:  Search for "time to positive HIV test".
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yea wutever u've read and wutever u've been told, you need to listen to dr hhh. 4 weeks is conclusive!!!
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I wouldn't be happier if Dr. H calls it 100% conclusive at 4 weeks. In fact, he has never done so. The closest he comes hitting the nail on the coffin is at about 8 weeks. But, the original poster should take heart from the fact that hetrosexual HIV transmission has low prevalance.
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Dr. have there been people that have tested positive after an 8 week negative?
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My tounge is white all the time.. I thought the same thing.  I think it has more to do with Gastro Reflx that amplifies during stress.  White tounge is common in healthy people.  The white stuff on tounges isnt what your expeeriencing and usually comes in a late infection.
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In my post, I wouldn't == I couldn't [SORRY]
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In all your research did you miss these?

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/STD/messages/524.html

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/HIV/messages/258.html

http://huhs.harvard.edu/HealthInformation/HIVTesting.htm

http://www.aegis.com/askdoc/ASKD040318.html

http://www.aegis.com/askdoc/ASKD040617.html

http://www.sfaf.org/aboutsfaf/outreach/index.html?april00/two_tests.html~frontpage

http://peds.wustl.edu/labmed/retrovirus/

http://experts.about.com/q/Immunology-including-AIDS-973/ELiSA-6-Weeks.htm

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Women/Archive/WomenInfected/Q159734.html

http://www.areuatrisk.com/Learn/aids_hiv.php

http://liam.gnn.tv/print/1775/HIV_Antibody_Assays_Overview

http://www.retroconference.org/2001/posters/415.pdf  (Figure1)

http://www.health24.com/medical/Condition_centres/777-792-814-1753,33966.asp

http://www.aac.org/site/PageServer?pagename=basics_home

http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=2523.0

http://www.aegis.com/askdoc/ASKD040318.html

http://www.hopkins-aids.edu/publications/book/03MMHIV1to3.pdf  (page 7)

http://www.unaids.org/en/MediaCentre/References/default.asp#begin (q:32)

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SideEffects/Archive/Testing/Q142661.html

http://depts.washington.edu/hivaids/initial/case1/discussion.html (figure 7)

http://experts.about.com/q/Immunology-including-AIDS-973/u.htm
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Interesting.. I don't have white patches or anything.. its almost like a light film or coating.. Should I see my dr to make sure?
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skerd....old habbits die hard... don't they;-)
??? Crazy this is....
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dude, it's really not abnormal.  I thought it was till mg GF showed me hers.. It's the same at times.
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Thank you all for your imput.. I will just relax and stop stressing and this tongue business will probably go away.. I have just been obessing about this HIV thing.. and its starting to really wear on me
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I forgot to mention.. not only is my tonuge white though, but my throat is red.. and I have a really nasty taste in my mouth..
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the one thing about HIV symptoms that confusses people, is that the web sites that talk about it are vague, one thing I can't seem to find is what exactly does an HIV rash look like? does anyone know?
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have you ever found anything about what HIV rashes look like?
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Ok, I am really scared that's all.. I keep thinking that my next test is going to be positive.  I had all sorts of symptoms starting 14 days after... I was extremly tired, white tongue, loose/soft stool, tempatures of 99.1-99.5, and totally depressed.  I went online to aidsmeds.com, and they told me that my 58 day test will unlikely change, however, I am so afraid it will..
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aidsmed.com is going to freak you out, most of those websites will. you need to and can trust the results u've already had. you can move on now, and enjoy being healthy!! no, a test wouldnt turn positive at 8 weeks if it was negative after 4 weeks.
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your throat is almost surly red from Gastro Refluxx.  Stress causes the acids to be pushed back up the throat.  This can irratate your throat and even turn your tounge white   You dont even have a temp.  99.X is normal fluctuation.  Like the doc always says, your symptoms are secondary to your testing.  Trust your 8 week as conclusive.  

Rashes:  Really means nothing next to testing.  The rash is usually accompanied by a high fever in the eary stages and is short in length.  Rashes that hang around or linger are evidence against an ARS rash.  Even when people do have symptoms like rashes sore throats and fevers most of the time it is NOT HIV related.
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Re: HBV... did you resolve it, or do you have a chronic infection? I'm assuming the former, but just thought I'd ask. HBV is not a big deal for most people, but some people develop a chronic infection and it can be very, very serious. I would urge everyone to get vaccinated. It's not a big deal and it could save your life.
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I think 2 months is too early to resolve a HBV infection naturally. The window period for detection of HBV is 45 days post exposure so I really doubt within the mentioned time frame it was detected & resolved also. The window period I am talking about is taking into consideration the HBs Ag test. I am not sure if there is a PCR test that can bone for it as well. But, again window for HBs Ag is another issue of controversy where some people say it extends till 180 days whereas others say that 12 weeks test is conclusive.
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