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What is the risk with very very bleeding gums?

Hi, 14 days ago i brushed my teeth with that new kind of motorized totthbrushes, after i finish i observerd blood on my gum and 4-5 scars(irritated because of toothbrush) but the blood was not a small amount i can say, because my spit after brushing was in dark colour because that toothbrush destroyed my gums, anyway 10 minutes after me and my girlfriend started to kiss (french) deeply, (no intercourse, anal or oral) i didn't taste any blood, maybe because  toothpaste was more dominant taste but i am sure my gums were bleeding (slightly or greatly),

But she didn't brush her teeth just put some toothpaste to her finger and cleaned her teeth with her finger and later i asked her if she has some sores in her mouth, she said there was no last time she checked, i don't know if she has hiv or not but she told me she was sexually very active before dating with me and she is from ukraine,

7 days after it started sore throat and on the 10th day the fever, which are the ost common symptoms, i am near to lose my mind, i read all your answers related to my situation and i know you all the time say kissing is no risk and there is no verified case but can you please make a detailed information about my situation?

How high risk under i am?

And is it possible to get infected by her saliva beacuse i had large amount of blood in my mouth?

And what if she had some open sores which she couldn't observe and her little amount of blood mix with my high amount then went through my gums? Is it possible?

Thanks in advance
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Thank you Mr. Handsfield,

Your words made me relax even the last ones were a bit tough. I'm waiting for the 29th day for the test. I hope it will be negative for me and for her.
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239123 tn?1267647614
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Welcome to the forum.

You really shouldn't be at all worried.  First, the chance your partner has HIV is very low.  Second, HIV is rarely if ever transmitted by kissing.  (On the community forum, you posted a link to a news story over 15 years old about a possible HIV transmission by kissing.  The only reason for a news report is that it's extremely rare!  People get hit by meteorites -- but too rarely to worry about or to go out of your way to prevent it.)  Could bleeding gums increase the risk, IF your partner were infected?  I suppose so.  But still no more likely than the meteorite hit or a lightning strike.

To your specific questions:

1,2) "How high risk" for HIV, and is it "possible"?  Such transmission may be possible, but you are at zero risk for practical purposes.  Not worth worrying about.

3) "What if" questions are not helpful.  But even if she had oral ulcers, I would rate your risk at zero or close to it.

From a risk standpoint, you don't even need HIV testing.  However, since you are so worried, I suggest you and your girlfriend go together to a doctor clinic for HIV testing.  If her test is negative, you will know there was no possibility you could have been infected and should be able to stop worrying about it.

Regards--  HHH, MD
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239123 tn?1267647614
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There is no reason to wait for testing.  Do it now.  If both your results are negative, you will know for sure there was no possible risk for either of you.  Why wait when you can get a definitive answer now?

Really, mellow out.  There is almost no chance she has HIV, and even if she does, you really are not at risk.  This shouldn't be bothering you anywhere near as much as it has been doing.

That's my last comment until and unless you report test results.  Good luck.
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239123 tn?1267647614
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This doesn't change my opinion or advice.  Every year in the US there are millions and millions of cases of sore throat caused by garden variety viruses, allergy, etc.  Every year there probably are zero cases of HIV transmitted by kissing.  Looking at it that way, which seems more likely?

The timing is just a coincidence.  I could go through the mathematics of why such a coincidence is thousands of times more common than the possibility you have HIV -- but you're just going to have to trust me on that part.

Feel free to report your girlfriend's and you HIV test results.  I'm sure they will be negative. But until then there is no point in further speculation and I won't have any further comments ora dvice.
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Thank you for your quick answer, but what about the symptoms? I have sore throat which i have never had for a year and fever the same and they are on the exact time for ars. This makes me scared a lot.
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