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Being Told to take PEP for low risk event
Hi experts, had small risk two days ago, it’s was a massage with handjob in the end. No sex involved.
Why I went to a doctor, because I didnt notice her hands, but i felt her hands to be rough. She might be HIV positive, as I notice Antiretroviral tablets on her table.
Went over to emergency department, they prescribed me with PEP for 30days.
According to a doctor, which has almost 30years treating hiv patient, saying I have a risk, as the lady might be HIV positive, although I repetitively told I didn’t have sex with her.
I have read throughout your forum. None stating handjob is a risk. Is there any risk factor, or could there be some isolated cases involving handjob?
Doctor statement
“If this person is positive for HIV and she masturbated your penis, there is a very slight chance of transmission. To be on the safe side, you should take PEP for 30 days after getting a 4th generation HIV test. The test will most likely be negative and it will be repeated at the end of the 30 days on PEP. That examination will also most likely be negative, but you will then have peace of mind.
The foreskin is not considered a mucous membrane.”
Why I went to a doctor, because I didnt notice her hands, but i felt her hands to be rough. She might be HIV positive, as I notice Antiretroviral tablets on her table.
Went over to emergency department, they prescribed me with PEP for 30days.
According to a doctor, which has almost 30years treating hiv patient, saying I have a risk, as the lady might be HIV positive, although I repetitively told I didn’t have sex with her.
I have read throughout your forum. None stating handjob is a risk. Is there any risk factor, or could there be some isolated cases involving handjob?
Doctor statement
“If this person is positive for HIV and she masturbated your penis, there is a very slight chance of transmission. To be on the safe side, you should take PEP for 30 days after getting a 4th generation HIV test. The test will most likely be negative and it will be repeated at the end of the 30 days on PEP. That examination will also most likely be negative, but you will then have peace of mind.
The foreskin is not considered a mucous membrane.”
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
Where do you live, that you can find such a crazy doctor?
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
Where do you live, that you can find such a crazy doctor?
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I just went to hospital to get some reassurance, as I’m not a medical person.
Just shock to see a doctor, specialist in HIV medicine, gave this statement.
He added there are few cases of his knowledge transmitted from handjob and mutual masturbation but he admitted that the history of those cases might be compromised.
So it safe for me to move on and stop this PEP? This med, it’s taking a great toll on me.
Just shock to see a doctor, specialist in HIV medicine, gave this statement.
He added there are few cases of his knowledge transmitted from handjob and mutual masturbation but he admitted that the history of those cases might be compromised.
So it safe for me to move on and stop this PEP? This med, it’s taking a great toll on me.
There are no cases on record of people getting HIV through a handjob. If that happened, it would be published, because it would be unique.
Your doctor has failed you in this situation. PEPE is intended to be used by people in HIGH-RISK situations, such as having unprotected intercourse with someone who is know to be HIV+. It is not intended to be taken by someone like you who had a no-risk event. As you are certainly aware, PEP can have some serious side effects.
There is no medical reason for you to be on PEP.
Your doctor has failed you in this situation. PEPE is intended to be used by people in HIGH-RISK situations, such as having unprotected intercourse with someone who is know to be HIV+. It is not intended to be taken by someone like you who had a no-risk event. As you are certainly aware, PEP can have some serious side effects.
There is no medical reason for you to be on PEP.
Stop taking it right now and go back to your happy life. Too bad he gave you such silly advice and in fact PEP has some risk so he is a bit nutty.
Thank you both. I will stop taking it and move on.
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