Clarity Needed

[robstew87]

Hi Community,

I posted this on the Drs forum just now but I'm pretty much freaking out and need some advice asap if you could possibly help.

Last night I stupidly ended up taking a random woman home from a nightclub - alcohol was of course involved. I know nothing about her previous history and the very fact she went home with what to her was a complete stranger is pretty disconcerting on a number of levels.

Fortunately thanks to sobering up I did not have sex with her - vaginal or oral. However there were a number of minor things during the foreplay that have me a bit concerned.

1. She bit me numerous times on the body, the neck, the chest, the pecs, the ear and the lips and she did so pretty hard - in fact it was excruciatingly painful at times. There are still bite marks on some of these areas and she bit my neck which had a few nicks from shaving that evening.
2. We vigorously kissed a lot and both of us seemed to have angular chelitis. My cracked lips in particlar were/are especially sore and the skin broken. I also have a slight blister on the inside of my lip due to a burn from a hot drink the day before.
3. Of most concern: at one point she rubbed her own vagina for a while with her bare hand and then took it out. When she did so she rubbed my face at the first point of contact was my open eye. If she had vaginal fluid on her hand would this not be a significant risk?

I dont have her number to check her status. Should I be concerned by what happened or consider precautionary post-exposure meds?

Thank you

[diver58]

1. Biting. Just one case out of tens of millions of transmission todate. Therefore the probability is too low to consider.

2. Lip to lip kissing is a no risk thing, regardless of your lip condition.

3. Hand to genital or body contact, even if the hands are contaminated with body fluids, does not put you under the risk of HIV because the virus is inactive (unable to infect) outside the host.

Your risk is non existent from this situation.

[robstew87]

Thanks for your response Diver, both yourself and Dr. Hook's responses have calmed me down. What I don't get however, is that the governmental website of the NHS (http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/HIV/Pages/Causes.aspx), where I live in England, states that:

The body fluids that contain enough HIV to infect someone are:
semen
vaginal fluids, including menstrual blood
breast milk
blood
lining inside the anus

along with

The main ways the virus enters the bloodstream are:
cuts and sores in the skin
thin lining on or inside the anus and genitals
thin lining of the mouth and eyes

Surely putting two and two together, I'd be at risk here. Given the girl almost immediately touched my eye after touching her vagina.

Sorry for persisting, just a bit freaked out at the min

[diver58]

State run health authorities are more conservative and always intend to remain on a "safer side". Transmission through wound is slightly possible only if the wound is bleeding profusely and comes into direct contact of infected body fluid through "vigorous" rubbing.  

In your case, the transmission risk does not shift from zero even by an iota. Her contaminated fingers had the exposure to ambient air, sufficient to inactivate the virus. So you have no reason to worry about