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1617658 tn?1299560665

Confused between symptoms and test?

Dear Sir,

I am male 29, I had 2 exposure one in 1st Aug, 09, it was protected but condom broken with CSW in Thailand... And my 2nd exposure on 2nd Feb,10, that was protected but her period was going on so i notice some blood on condom. 

Symptoms:- 
About 2 month later (after 1st exposure) i got fever for 2 days and I also got Many others symptoms like sore troth, dry cough, joint pain & masale pain, back pain, neck stiffness, headache, (All symptoms last about 3 months) RASHES (On my face, chest, stomach, hands and upper leg,  white tough & diarrhoea for 4 days (Gone after taken Medicin).

Tests:-
1) Oct 09 - Hiv Antibody test result- Non Reactive (0.345) (Method Fully Atomised CLIA on cobas E411)
2) Jan 10 - Hiv Antibody test result- Negative. (Same Method)
3) April 10 - Hiv Antibody test result- Negative (0.394).
4) June 10 - Hiv Antibody test result- Negative.
5) July 10 - Hiv Antibody test result- Negative.
6) Sep 10 - Hiv Antibody test result- Negative.
7) Nov 10 - HIV Western Blot test result - All Negative.
(All tests done from different Labs & Hospital)

I don't have any current symptoms except sometime mild rashes.

My wife current symptoms:- Red Rashes on her face, shoulders, chest, and back look like HIV rashes pictures which i found on Internet.

So I tested my wife recently on 4/02/2011 - Result 0.11 (I think Negative because cut off value was 1) Method 4th generation Antibody + Antigen and O HIV test.

1) What should I believe symptoms or test?

2) Should i consider my self 100% HIV free and also consider no chance of false negative in my and my wife case?   

3) Cold I be one of those rare late serooconverters or unlucky enough to get infected with that rare strain and my test miss?

4) I know many doctor said not to worry about rare strain/groups/crf, but is it possible that these tests I have had Could have missed infection?

5) Are there any other tests to do to rule out HIV (like PCR or Antigen) of ANY SORT?

6) Out of 8 test 3 test method are same which has mention above and I found on net that test was 2nd Generation test so what is a window period for this test should I believe 100% on this Clia on cobas e411 HIV test?
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1519393 tn?1306802108
Conclusive means final...not more testing needed! You don't have HIV and the symptoms you and your wife have are not because of HIV. Your wife has a negative test too, so this proves you did not give her HIV, bacause you don't have HIV. Try to stop thinking that way, about your symptoms has to be caused, by HIV.
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1617658 tn?1299560665
Conclusive means 100%, and all symptoms of my and my wife not suggest an HIV Infaction?  Right?
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You don't have an HIV concern, you have a conclusive test result.
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1617658 tn?1299560665
Sorry For asking again but yesterday Night i fill like i have Night Sweat because when i wakeup around 2am due to some other region i fill some sweating on Neck, Chest & Stomach. I also have same symptoms few days back also, and yes still my wife has rashes which i already mention.

I just wanted to know is this symptoms suggest HIV Infaction?

Thanks  
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1519393 tn?1306802108
... your exposure was in Aug 09 and you have had 8 negative results up until Nov 2010, you do not have HIV. You did not give HIV to your wife. Her rash is not due to HIV. It is not possible to have 8 negative results post a year and a half past your last exposure and still test negative. Trust your tests.
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1617658 tn?1299560665
Expert pls reply...
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1617658 tn?1299560665
I am worried because my wife rash. She had badly effect rash on her face (forehead), Back & shoulders. I am very confused test show negative but symptoms suggest HiV. Rashes come after the test. Please give me your opinion. Thanks
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1617658 tn?1299560665
I am worried because my wife rash. She had badly effect rash on her face (forehead), Back & shoulders. I am very confused test show negative but symptoms suggest HiV. Rashes come after the test. Please give me your opinion. Thanks
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If you are neg. after 3 months you are good. Never trust symptoms because there is always a good chance anxatiy could be causeing symptoms.
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1519393 tn?1306802108
Always believe the test at 12 weeks post exposure over symptoms. Yes...you are HIV free, trust your 8 tests! Your test would not miss a rare strain. 2nd generation tests have the same window period of up to 3 months post exposure for a conclusive result.
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