whats going on.

[worriedboy2]

hi all,today marks exactly 9 weeks since I stupidly went to an escort who works alone in her house.its very consider and clean.the women appeared to be old with brown stained teeth(due to smoking).she put a condom on and started giving me oral.now I wanted a footjob so she slipped the condom off and gave me one.now I cant remember whether she gave me bare oral sex or not.but im pretty sure she did.the doctor put me on pep 96 hours after exposure.i was on it for 28 days.now from the 2nd week onwards iv seen and felt symptoms resembling ars.like this intense muscle pain,weakness in my arms.iv had a cold sore,ive also had ulcers on my tongue.people are telling me im losing alot of weight,also there is pain under my arms and tingling in my hands.im getting very worried now.yesterday I recalled the escort with the guise of someone else to find out if she has hiv or any other other std.she laughed and put the phone down.i called again and she told me "go f..k yourself,you insulting little p..ck".now I know she took that as an insult and she probably doesnt have it.im still worried.please help.

[Teak]

No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who believe that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA
"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." Dr. Hook
"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
"I would not say your risk ,if he had HIV is "slim to none"- that's too high.  I would say they are effectively zero.  How much of his ejaculate or other genital  secretions you may have swallowed makes no difference.  EWH "
"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow." Dr.Hook
HIV is not spread by oral sex, giving or receiving, even if sores, gum disease or blood is present
DR HOOK
The fact is that there are no cases in which HIV has been proven to be transmitted by oral sex, including fellatio..  EWH

[antb82]

how can u be so certain teak.

[Teak]

You do not have an HIV concern. If you have any further questions start your own thread.

[antb82]

ive had a blood test done. To check for stds and hiv i no its to early for hiv antibodies to show?But is it worth further check up appointments for blood tests. your the man in the know im new to this game and im cacking myself.
ps test done at the 14 day of when i thought i had exposure

[antb82]

so i guess its anxiety then.swaer the brain is a complex tool. my mind as been killing me. keep up the good work teak. you the man.

[Teak]

You never had an exposure.

by Emily_MHModerator,
And to clarify, it is this site's stance, based on studies and our own MedHelp experts (all of whom are world-renowned for their work in this field), that oral sex carries no risk for HIV.  
Emily

[antb82]

teak i bet ive got hiv through oral on csw. she completed in my face.plus ive started having night sweats. can night sweats cause rashes on shoulders .Or am i bringing these sweats on with anxiety?the rash comes when i sweat and in hot baths. Its been 17 days since exposure. im sxxting myself pal. ps you make me laugh straight to the poin. bit like me

[Teak]

Move along.

[worriedboy2]

thank you teak,one last and final question.then i wont bother you again.how long after exposure does a rash develop? and could the unnecessary use of pep be causing this?

[Teak]

See your doctor, has nothing to do with HIV.

[worriedboy2]

im getting extreme muscle pain,i think thers a rash that resembles hiv developing on my chest.people are telling me im losing alot of weight.im really scared.im sorry for over posting but i dont know who else to talk to.is it possibl;e for a rash to develop and to feel all these symptoms at 10 weeks post exposure?

[Teak]

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[John2014]

No Risk.

[worriedboy2]

no anal or vaginal.only oral and a footjob.the entire experience lasted 25 to 30 minutes and i was out of there.

[worriedboy2]

this pain is originating from my spinal cord into my shoulders and into my neck and arms.also i have been experiencing itchiness throughout my body

[worriedboy2]

so yourll are saying I shouldnt stress

[John2014]

HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users
Mother to child

[Red5613]

How did you educate yourself about hiv?

[John2014]

Don't do this man... Educate yourself about HIV transmition. You are not helping anyone this way.

[Red5613]

Very small risk but still a risk

[John2014]

Your only exposure was oral sex?