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HIV Study - Delayed Seroconversion
Can anyone make sense of this study? Why did the patients in the study seroconvert so late? According to the study the maximum a patient seroconverted was 42+months (3.5 years)! Please leave your comments stating what your interpertation of this study is. Copy and paste this link in your broswer to see the study: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2512827&dopt=Abstract
i've been on this forum for 5 years and i can tell you that MOST posters who report swollen lymph nodes, DONT actually have them once they see their dr.
Thanjs lizzie for the post. When you google 'anxiety symptoms' the first result is what you posted. I guess the person who listed these symptoms is exagerating. But you need not forget that most posters suffer also from enlarged lymph nodes that only appear where there is a REAL infection. So yes anxiety disorder causes physical symptoms but not all who are worried about hiv and why after a low risk encounter.
But thanks anyway for comforting the posters.
But thanks anyway for comforting the posters.
symptoms mean nothing when you have received a conclusive negative result like you have.It's something else.
If centres in your country still provide tests the same as 20 years ago, you should test for 6mos or longer. infact I cannot understand why some places use these far-too outdated test methods.
after all if you highly doubt about the 3mos window period, you can test for 6mos, 1 or 2 years or even 100 years. no one here can help you, and no one here have the right to change the rule made by FDA. all we can do is too obey the rule. so it's really useless to lay your stuff here, you should talk to FDA directly if you have different ideas.
after all if you highly doubt about the 3mos window period, you can test for 6mos, 1 or 2 years or even 100 years. no one here can help you, and no one here have the right to change the rule made by FDA. all we can do is too obey the rule. so it's really useless to lay your stuff here, you should talk to FDA directly if you have different ideas.
3 Months is more than enough time to produce detectable antibodies or p24 antigen.Most people will test positive by 6 weeks and that's a fact.This 6 to 12 month nonsense is old.
Like I mentioned, I REALLY REALLY hope the 3 MONTHS guideline is accurate.
The thing is, when you are being attended by doctors physically (and I have seen 3), none ever said 3 months. I don't know why - in fact, I had 3 different answers - 6, 9 and 12 months.
I know you might say they are not "specialists", but these centres provide testing, so they must be educated to provide advise and assurance. So they must have been given guidelines by certain quarters (maybe the Government or even the disease control department - I don't know really).
That's where our problem lies, but having said this, again, I REALLY REALLY pray and want to believe the 3 months mark mentioned here is correct.
The thing is, when you are being attended by doctors physically (and I have seen 3), none ever said 3 months. I don't know why - in fact, I had 3 different answers - 6, 9 and 12 months.
I know you might say they are not "specialists", but these centres provide testing, so they must be educated to provide advise and assurance. So they must have been given guidelines by certain quarters (maybe the Government or even the disease control department - I don't know really).
That's where our problem lies, but having said this, again, I REALLY REALLY pray and want to believe the 3 months mark mentioned here is correct.
Yes,but the tests these days are far better than the tests of the past and more sensitive and you never needed to test out to 6 Months.You wasted your time.You have the whole symptom thing going on in your mind.Let it go.You don't have Hiv.
I know it is.Not suggesting otherwise.Just saying what Sydney clinics are advising for any Australians that maybe using this forum.
Guys think of it this way: the human body will not seronconvert differently nowadays than in the nineties. It is the same body so yes the study still applies nowadays and the tests are not accurate. Listen to the documentary 'numbers' about hiv and you will learn about it from experts also. I still cannot believe that i am not hiv+ within me having aids symptoms. Last test done at 6+ months mark.
Wrong,in Australia it's being considered.Some clinics in Sydney are already using it.Please do not confuse this with US guidelines.
"it wont be long before the 3 month window period is reduced to 6 weeks"
that is misleading. there is no information out that the window period will be reduced "before long"
that is misleading. there is no information out that the window period will be reduced "before long"
Read what the doctors in the expert forum have to say about Hiv window periods.You are going back to the dark ages if you continue to mention the whole 22 years ago latent seroconversion cases.It won't be long before the 3 Month window period is reduced to 6 weeks.
would you send your wife to a proctologist to have a baby? NO...it's not his specialty.
Its a shame that in 2011 (almost 2012) the medical community cannot agree on the diagnostic window period for such a horrible disease. If its 3 months, all Doctors should say 3 months. I've tested out to 6 months and I'm still unsure of my status.
just because someone has a M.D. after their name does not mean they are hiv educated.
you wont hear any hiv specialist, in the modern world, say that you need to test out past 3 months.
you wont hear any hiv specialist, in the modern world, say that you need to test out past 3 months.
Well, Yes it was 22 years ago, but have tests really cut down the window period from up to 42 months to just 3 months?! If that indeed happen it might be the biggest feat in Medicine ever. There is just too much uncertainity in HIV testing. Doctors can't even agree in the window period. Doctors! Not you or me, but professionals in the medical field can't agree! They give various window periods, e.g. 3, 4, 5, 6, and 12 months. Crazy!
This study is absurd in 2012. In 1990, there was no p24 test, duotest. In 1990, EIA tests were the first generation. Realize how radically technology improves every year.
good lord...do you know how ridiculous that sounds? 20 YEARS is a helluva long time ! ! !
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