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HIV duo test positive AFTER 4 weeks

Not really a question as such - trying to help resolve teh countless testing debates with my own personal experience as I can pinpoint the risk time exactly.

I am 28, heavy drinker but no real health concerns/illnesses/immune problems etc:

I had unprotected vaginal sex with a brothel sex worker who said I didn't need to bother with a condom - i.e. HER choice even though she had them with her, she also showed them to me on the way out...- I was too drunk to realize what was going on, was feeling suicidal anyway and didn't know about PEP- 4 days after I came down with a distinct mono type illness and also had cuts all over my foreskin - I suffer from a tight foreskin that is prone to splitting.

I tested at 16 days duo test - negative but puss cells in penis - I didn't test positive for chlamidyia but that is what they gave me antibiotics for saying it was strange it hadn't come up on the test as chlamidyia....

Took antibiotics, soreness at tip cleared up - cue oral thrush and night sweats.

These occurred directly after and then a few days after I took the antibiotics

Around week 3.5 after daily staring in the mirror - I noticed I had a maculopapular non itchy rash on the backs of both arms. Started planning my suicide.

I suffer from depression anyway and have irregular sleeping patterns/trouble getting out of bed- and over the past few weeks I've had EVERY symptom at one stage or another.

Test at 28 days - duo test - negative

Speaking to the health counsellor they said there was no need to test again now and I should wait until 3 months as all the signs indicate I am negative. Even with me explaining all the symptoms and circumstances!!

I need counseling anyway so am back in on day 45 for a test.

All I can say about this is I am in a very very high risk and have displayed all symptoms and co-factors that increase transmission - foreskin/open sores/stds.

If I am negative then this should persuade all worried wells to calm down and put things in perspective.

I obviously do not think this is going to be the case. But will report on my test at 7 weeks - as that is my next scheduled appointment and will continue to get tested if its negative at regular intervals and put which tests I am getting down as well.

16 day duo test -ve
28 day duo test -ve
45 day
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84 day



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277836 tn?1359666174
No Need to waste the test wait until 84 to 90 days to test again its not conclusive until then anyway......
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this is the most inspirational story ever....i can only hope i'm this lucky tomorrow
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To detect HIV, are HIV tests I & II sufficient ?  And, can this test be done in a general hospital or in special AIDS diagnostic centre ?
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Stop going on-line and going to junk websites.
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Really nice to hear this from you...All these days I have been in a depression that words cannot explain.  But, some writings in the net says, open sores in mouth while kissing can lead to HIV...that is the worst part that makes me worry a lot...
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480448 tn?1426948538
HIV is not transmitted by kissing, PERIOD.

No "buts", or "what if's", those are the facts.
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Hi - I did not actually had sex. But, had an open mouthed kissing.  And during that time I had lip ulcer, which means I had an open sore on my lips.  Is there any risk of HIV in me ?  From the day of the kissing, I have been facing all the symptoms if HIV that I have read in all these kind of forums.  Please advise me.   I also did a HIV test after 7 weeks and it tested negative.  But, still the symptoms are continuing and poses a danger threat in me.
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A conclusive negative test is 3 months post exposure.
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hi my name is Hoo I had protected sex with a prostitute in Malaysia she was from Kenya black cute girl,then after sex I didn't carefully look at the condom but it seems alrights but after reminding myself i doubt that and after searching in internet I understand that Kenya is a dangerous country for HIV and it has 6.7 percent HIV positive then I assumed that she was prostitute and must be HIV positive 100%,so i start to panic then after one week i had discharge from my penis i went to std clinik they said you may have gonorrhea or chlamydia but i had no other symptoms,anyway i took antibiotic about 10 days and it became alright,now after 24 days of exposure i am going to test for HIV and other deceases,if it become negative how much can i be calm down because now i am anxious cant concentrate cant study i am master student,pls help.what is the odd that i catch HIV too?
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oh and I am putting this all behind me so am going to leave these forums now.

Thanks to everyone who contributes - especially those who have the disease and offer support and re-assurance to others - it really does help.

Maybe this post can be one that helps people with "symptoms" calm down.

I urge everyone to donate to their local HIV charity that offers counseling and support.

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To be honest I hope when people are going mad and searching these forums WITH NO REAL RISK - they can see here that someone with a  high risk (if the person was indeed infected) of getting it and displaying all the symptoms is negative and stop going nuts about it.

It seems its mostly men on here who end up having an experience with a prostitute who suddenly feel guilt and that they must have caught it as a punishment or some other nonsense.

I know its easy for me to preach this now. But its true. To be honest my mind was at ease really at the 8 week test.

This has been one of the hardest times of my life and I sympathize - but you must put things into perspective.



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It is really reassuaring for a lot of anxious & paranoid people like me. I had protected sex with a massage aprlour lady in Thailand. But the rare chance of the condom failing has been bothering me a lot. So reading your story makes me fell I was in much more 'protected' situation than yours. Wish you a happy rest of life. Please do not repeat the mistake
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16 day duo test = negative
28 day duo test = negative
46 day duo test = negative
56 day Point of care test = negative.
94 day Point of care test = negative

Okay so that is it - I'm negative - I'll test again only when I get a new partner for the sake of it.

For anyone who ends up on here thinking "I have flu symptoms and had a random encounter with someone" - look at my story -its not exagerrated at all - unprotected sex with a prostitute who said "no need for condom, then showed me one on the way out" - got chlamidyia, split foreskin and flu -symptoms THe rash on my arms still ahsn't gone so I assume its always been there...I just never looked at the back of my arms until then.

Getting regular counselling and have sorted out most my issues with it.

Good luck everyone.
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It is ridiculous to say that if someone lives in France, then (s)he needs a 6-week test but if (s)he is in America (s)he needs 3 months. People are the same everywhere.

If a country such as France says 6 weeks with a duo test is conclusive, then it must be.
The CDC does not mention duo tests anyway. For some reason, duo tests have yet to be approved in America, but most EU countries use them.  
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Dude- just be happy now, thank God and.........and don't do it again. Congratulations.

I am still waiting....it was 14th day today:(
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16 day duo test = negative
28 day duo test = negative
46 day duo test = negative
56 day Point of care test = negative.

They didn't offer me a duo test which was disappointing as thats what I wanted.

The health care advisor did say the official window period was 3 months and to come back then -  by regulations I'd have to test then - but 8 weeks was the real window period he felt and looking at the evidence I was negative - I assume that is 8 weeks with POCT as thats what they use as standard - this is the main NHS hospital in UK dealing with HIV

The rash on my arms has faded slightly - but is still there. I've suggested what if its Hep C co-infection or something - but he said 3 months is it regardless.

Can all the symptoms - especially rash really be a co-incidence with this high risk exposure? Just seems too much.




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so i` am happy that this info was helpfull to you. So if you was here in France and if you was tested with HIV DUO TEST at 42 days, so you will be consider as seronegative, BUT You live in USA or UK( I`am not sure sorry) so you must retest at 84 days.
BUT beleiveme you will be NEGATIVE.
AND LAST THINK believe to lizzie lou and teak, they are great and know very good the situation in USA,

They help me a lot, and now i work like benevol in Sida Service in France. This time I try to help.
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Parisgay,

Thanks so much for that - my French is a little off but I will take a look.

That has given me a glimmer of hope - as HIV-2 is spread through France more than UK - in the US I heard they don't really bother with HIV-2. If France say 6 weeks - then that is good news as I feared HIV-2 may take longer and thats why some US groups say 6 weeks as they don't bother with HIV-2 - and that is why nothing had showed up with me....

I'm in for a counseling session tomorrow where they will offer me a test, then I will hold out to 8 weeks and 3 months.

Its important I feel everyone relies on 3 months as conservative as you can't be sure what test you got and where you are in the world does affect things....also here is one for those with high anxiety:

Yesterday I did a same day duo test and was phoned to say "the results got lost with the courier, can you come back to repeat the test." - I thought they were getting me back in as it was positive - but they really did lose it! "Its the first and only time thats ever happened where a result has been lost" they said.

They told me my chance was somewhere between 99% at 6 weeks and 100% negative at 3 months when they called me with a negative result. The thought crossed my mind - well I've been the first one whose results were lost getting back!

So basically mistakes can happen - couriers/labels/lab technicians - I'd urge anyone not to go by 1 test at 6 weeks. Maybe thats why so many groups say get a final one at 12 weeks - so you've effectively been tested twice if you've had a high risk exposure



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here i posted the link sorry it is on french
http://www.automesure.com/library/pdf/reco-depist-vih.pdf
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Ok here in France have a new prescription about 4 generation test (only for them).
4 generation test - Ag/Ac Combo(Axsym - Abbott) with agP24 >50 pg/ml - test is conclusive after 6 week. Every other test - 3 months.
But i am with Lizzie Lou UNTIL IN THE USA THE CDC, FDA, AND THE MANUFACTURERS OF THE TESTS CHANGE THE GUIDELINE...3 MONTHS IS CONCLUSIVE
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186166 tn?1385259382
a test done at 3 months PROVES someone does not have hiv ! ! !
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Your tests prove you're not HIV+
Move on and dont do it again, you may not be so lucky next time.

M.
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Okay here it is so far

16 day duo test = negative
28 day duo test = negative
46 day duo test = negative

So just to be clear I have tested at 6 weeks and 4 days and its negative on 4th gen duo.

I still feel that I am HIV+ due to all the risks/co-factors and symptoms.

If I test positive now this will be proof you can't rely on 6 weeks just because you are not on chaemotherapy/have a serious illness, and 6 week negatives do change - which I haven't seen anywhere else - and believe me I have been glued to HIV websites. Googling like mad to work out how to approach my life - I can only imagine what its like for someone who has a partner they've cheated on.

I'm going to do a mouth swab test on day 48 and then test out until the CDC window period.

Maybe its HIV-2? so not going to show on the antigen and I'll be positive by 8 weeks - when my health advisor said it would be conclusive....

Will keep reporting until I turn positive/hit 3 months....
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