HIV exposure

[Jaydee2021]

I had unprotected sex with a woman of unknown status. On occassion shes been known to smoke cocaine---but other than that shes pretty normal--I have badgered her to death about her status to the point her mother had to get involved-I know she had cervical cancer--but shes had children since then ---and recently a 5 year old kid. she and her mother claim to be negative--she wont get tested to prove it because she is angry with my and wants me to leave her alone. I havent had ARS symptoms--I slept with someone else who I am seeing now and she has not displayed ars symptoms...though ARS doesnt happen to everyone---I couldnt be sooo lucky that neither i or my GF now have not had a single symptom a month later. I am nervous--I slept with her 3 times and I am circumsized.

[Teak]

GMHC goes by the CDC guidelines of 3 month post exposure for testing. Just because someone doubts that your test result will change, does not mean for you to take as that test was conclusive test. I fowarded you posts to Andy so he has a heads up on the false information you posted on this forum.

[Jaydee2021]

If you wanna state facts tell people what andy said in my last post---thats facts--13 weeks conclusive yeah---for CYA purposes in the government--SCIENCE states 4-6 weeks and its shouldnt change much from that point.

[LIZZIE LOU]

---being HIV positive and following government guidelines doesnt make you an expert----my aunt is HIV poz and doesnt know squat---

JUST DO WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WANT TO DO.  YOU HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE FACTS ABOUT TESTING.

MOVE ON

[Jaydee2021]

The bottom is the info YOUR DR's ON YOUR SITE gave me and he pretty much said conclusive----guess he wasted his time in medschool and helping people with HIV so I can go on living poz and not knowing it---huh?





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, Sep 15, 2008 06:29PM
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Can I feel comfotable with this? She said she has been doing this for a decade--rarely over 4 weeks does someone not show poz.A friend of mine sort of scared me todat into thinking it wasnt enough time. This is my last question.
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, Sep 15, 2008 09:52PM
Feel comfortable and stop worrying. It is time for you to move on.  EWH

[Teak]

You better put your glasses on. The above reply to you is what Andy stated to you.

[Jaydee2021]

It wasnt my aunt---my HIV COUNSELOR THE LADY WHO TESTED ME SAID I CAN TEST AGAIN IF I WANT BUT WITH MY RISK_--SHE DOUBTED MY RESULTS WOULD CHANGE--AND NOWHERE ON MY POST DID HE SAY I NEEDED FURTHER TESTING~THE FACTS ARE WHAT YOU GET FROM WHAT YOU READ--so I can do the same that you do---If a person who has been testing people for years feels she can say move on---I trust that--DO YOU KNOW THE GMHC? they were the first to break the ice on HIV---they said 4 weeks for insertive vaginal with the same person I did it with 6 weeks before if good---

[Teak]

Yes and you gave incorrect information on this forum as to what Andy said. Don't quote Andy incorrectly. Here is what he actually said.

Re: Worried sick from risk
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2008, 01:20:19 pm »  

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A partner's report of their status is irrelevant as far as you are concerned. You are the one who is responsible for your health.

You had unprotected intercourse. That is a risk for HIV. However, the good news is that HIV is a fragile virus and not easy to transmit. It is significantly harder to accomplish from female to male and your being circumcised lowers your risk even further. But lower risk is not the same as no risk, so you do need to get tested at 13 weeks after the most recent unprotected incident. And you need to learn from this experience. You can have all the partners you like regardless of their status. Just do it the safer way and alway without exception use a condom each time.

Hopefully you will scoot through safely this time. Good luck with your test.

[LIZZIE LOU]

dont blame anyone here for your aunt's ignorance!!!!!

nowhere on your post did andy tell you that you did not need further testing.

it's time for you to move on.  you have convinced yourself in a matter of "weeks" that you know everything there is to know about hiv.  we are not here to argue the FACTS...WE ONLY STATE THEM!!!

[Jaydee2021]

I also wrote the doctors on here to let them know you basically think their info is SH5T! Edwards told me to be comfortable with 4 weeks and move on im fine!

[Jaydee2021]

Troll? whats that---I posted my concerns and your saying Andy gave me a bad answer because Im trolling? WTF? My counselor tests people daily for years---she knows more than you and i can tell just because of her compassion----GET SOME COUNSELING EDUCATION THE counsel people.

[Teak]

LOL, that's right you were trying to TROLL AidsMeds.

[Jaydee2021]

your a fear monger like the rest of this administration---you might as well start telling people to get tested after oral---I remeber when I first got tested CDC would say 6 months GMHC would say 3 months and at 4 weeks most people know---now CDC says 3.

Here is the post--im done I am going to show the counselor this website and the back and forth of misinformation on here--Drs. and volunteers---Go check out the following

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Hi Jim,

Good news about your negative. The average time to seroconversion is 22 days. And all but the very smallest number who are going to seroconvert will do so within 4-6 weeks after a genuine risk.

Thanks for the offer to help. We can't take you up on that but you might contact any ASO organization in the Chicago area or the person you spoke with and ask for suggestions about where to volunteer. Working to address the ignorance prejudice about HIV would be a great thing for you to do.

Cheers,

[Jaydee2021]

You have read my risk on under worried JIM--in aidsmeds...smoke that---and an HIV counselor who test people daily for ten years--would know---being HIV positive and following government guidelines doesnt make you an expert----my aunt is HIV poz and doesnt know squat---your not going to send me back into a anxiety riden frenzy---

[Teak]

I haven't read your risk and no one would tell you that a 4 weeks if you had a risk, that your test is conclusive not even Andy. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Jaydee2021]

then go on my page and tell andy on aidsmeds he was wrong about telling me congrats!
My HIV counselor was right==stay off the internet!

[Jaydee2021]

Yeah but your doctors on here claim that 4 weeks 95% show up---the CDC was also saying 6 months---So then an HIV counselor at a top Center here in Chicago who has been testing people negative and poz for ten years lied to me? Or she just doesnt know her stuff? On aidsmeds they told my great news and the more than average was 4-6 weeks...Dr edwards said move on with your life feel comfortable....

[LIZZIE LOU]

according to the guidelines set forth by the FDA, CDC, and the manufacturers of the test...3 months is conclusive.

[Jaydee2021]

Any input? I dont think an HIV educator would give misinformation--Center on Halsted is like the GMHC in NYC and the GMHC hotline also said I am ok.

[Jaydee2021]

I would like your advice--the counselor who tested me---a 10 year veteran in testing---said 4 weeks is a great indicator and doubts the results would change and that if she felt I had to she would advise me to come back---but that in my case she would leave it up to me and wouldnt stress having to do so----she was actually the team leader.

[mjd83]

sorry, I didn't get that part from your post. I'm glad to hear it though, as you see your anxiety was truly unfounded. Oh, and btw 5/10,000 and 1/2000 are the same proportion so I guess the CDC confirms what the doctors on this site say.

[Jaydee2021]

I did test---Im fine---thats what my post said....and BTW in paper from the CDC shown to me by the HIV counselor who is also a biologist. unprotected insertive vaginal is 5 in 10,000---I tested at 4 weeks from my last exposure---and 6 weeks from the start of the exposure----it was all with the same woman.

[mjd83]

The 90-95% I quoted I think actually pertains to 4-6 week range so even at 4 weeks 9 out of 10 people who are going to seroconvert will have already. So let's summarize you had an unprotected vaginal exposure (1:2000 odds) with a  female who I assume neither has sex with MSM or shoots INJECTABLE drugs (1 in 1000 infected about) that comes out to less than 1 in a million chance that she had HIV and gave it to you just crunching the numbers. If you get a test a 4 weeks and it's negative (only 10% false neg at this point) that means that there is only a 1 in 20,000,000 chance that you will still seroconvert!!!!!

Your issues are psychological judging from your post. If you still want to let your HIV anxiety (unfounded as it is) to take control then this forum has nothing more to offer you and you need professional counseling. It's time to move on.

[Jaydee2021]

6 weeks since the first incident a month since the last counselor said no need to return but can if I want----she said she has seen most people at 4 weeks become poz---had a rapid test finger ***** done

[mjd83]

p.s. if your that worried get a 6 week test... 90-95% accurate at that time and at your (very low)risk level most of the doctors will call that conclusive.