HIV negative after 7 weeks / lymphopenia at 6 weeks

[Medix88]

Hello,
I'm very worried about my situation, I've had an unprotected oral sex with with a HIV positif girl. I've had legs pain, myalgia, nerve pain... It's a very bad experience... I've had All HIV symptoms except no fever and no rush, no diarrhoea. I did 4th generation test after 2 weeks, 4 weeks, 6 weeks and 7 weeks. All test become negative.

At week 6 I've had lymphopenia of 700! I was in shock, how a oral sex can transmit HIV! I'm the only one in this earth? I feel very bad, I'm trying to convince myself when reading that 4th generation HIV test is 98% conclusive at week 4 and conclusive at 6 weeks (France/Germany) or maybe 8 weeks in UK (in high risk).

I'm very worried about what would happen in the next tests. Should I do more tests? Should I expect any change in the results with a negative at 7 weeks? The limphopenia resolved one week later (now at wk7 I have 1600).
Thank you very much for your help.
Best regards

[Sara_MHModerator]

Our members have clearly stated to you that you had NO risk for HIV.  You never needed to test in the first place, do not need to test again and will never become negative from a non risk sexual exposure of oral sex. There is nothing to add to what they've already told you.  We are now closing this discussion.

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[AnxiousNoMore]

You had no HIV risk and it doesn't matter if she was positive so your test was a waste of time - which is a good thing. It is abnormal to repeatedly test when you get negative results, and another test will indicate HIv phobia.
It is unscientific for you to conclude that your symptoms are from HIV just because you have guessed that you have HIV.  The reality is you don't have HIV so your guess was wrong which makes your symptoms non-HIV. The fact you think you are the only one on the earth that something happened to is another clue that your self diagnosis is incorrect.

HIV is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.  

Only adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex
3. sharing needles that you inject with. Knowing these 3 are all you need to know to protect yourself against HIV. Your situation is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established so there is no detail that you can add that will make any of your encounter a risk for HIV.  No one in 40 years of HIV history got HIV from the situation you are concerned about so it is unlikely that it will happen in the next 40 of your lifetime either.

[Medix88]

Hello Anxiousnomore, thank you very much for you reassuring comment. I hope too, I feel Really devastated, I've got bad symptoms during 6 weeks post exposure and I felt very bad.
I'm crossing my fingers and hoping to not have this bad thing, I want to believe the statistics and your reassuring comment but the lymphopenia killed all my hopes. I know during this period I'm very stressed and I'm not eating properly so it can be the cause. I've looked for all existing statistics for 4th gen hiv test and the 100% is achieved at day 50 post exposure (7th week). So accorign the statistics my 7th week test should be conclusive but I'm going to do a test Monday (8th week) and if it's negative (I hope) a last test at 12th week. Then never again unprotected sex ever in my life... Until having my stable partner. I'm afraid that the girl had some sort of thing in her mouth to protect herself but with sperm of an other person... I know I'm paranoiac but it can be the case this if this never happened... :(
The thing that I'm sur is that I've tested from week 2 post exposure until week 7 on a weekly basis and no p24 detected or antibodys...
I wish I will have a second chance! And learn from this bad and awful story... The worst two months I've ever had in my life.

Statistics 3rd and 4th generation seroconversion time:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/264056703_Probability_of_a_false-negative_HIV_antibody_test_result_during_the_window_period_a_tool_for_pre-_and_post-test_counselling

[AnxiousNoMore]

"I know I'm paranoiac " Seek therapy to help you accept the science instead of trusting your incorrect guesses which are escalating your fears to where they are today. You need the one on one discussion that this forum can't provide.

[Medix88]

I hope that I'm wrong, I will share my results with you next weeks. I'm thinking of doing a PCR test that should make a final point to this story. The thing that allowed me to be very skeptical is all neurological symptoms and myalgia that I've got, it was not easy to handle and now they are starting to resolve after two months! I know that they can be caused by other viruses but the most known to do all this things plus a lymphopenia is HIV...  I will keep you updated with this story. Oral sex can cause very bad troubles, trust me! Always protect yourself...

[AnxiousNoMore]

There is no purpose in testing, so there is no purpose in posting your test results.  Everyone but you knows you can't have HIV, so you are better off spending your time and money in therapy, because your placebo tests haven't helped you at all so far, and likely won't next time either.

[Medix88]

Hello back Anxiousnomore, so as it was hopefully expected, my elisa 4th gen was negative at 8 weeks and 3 days. I'm sure that in this unprotected relation I've catched something but until now nothing is turning out to be positive. I still have pain in legs and in my articulations and tendons and also in my abdomen. So I went to an internal medecine doctor and I told him all my symptoms and also all my negative HIV results and others STD. She told me that it's clear it's a viral infection. For HIV she told me that I have to test 6 months post unprotected relation!! Do you thing guys that I can turn positive after all 4th gen test I did!? I know that based on statistics 4th gen is conclusive at 50 days post exposure (7 weeks). But what the doctor said was totally contradictory.
I'm going to do an other test during at the end of next week, it will be 12 weeks post exposure and I hope it will be conclusive for HIV and others STD. I will consider it conclusive regardless of my last doctor opinion. What do you think? Thank you!