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Hiv Worry

Hello i have had 2 encounters. The first is with a Freelance Sex worker. There was no penetration. I was just touching her breasts and and watching her play with herself. I know that no penetration = no risk. However does accidentally touching her fluids that were on the bed may equal to infection?

I also had an enconter with a domestic worker. There was no penetration. I had a slight cut on my lips. I was kissing her neck and breasts. Im afraid of her sweat getting into contact with the lip being a possible means of transmission.

Im am actually freaking out as i seem to be down with a fever a few days with the first encounter. I hope someone is able to provide me with some answers to my question

*she also claims that her recent hiv goverment mandated test is negavtive. Can i trust that information? Is testing required for me?
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Your situation involves personal contact with an object in air  ( mouth, maybe blood, maybe cut gums, sweat,  etc. ). You will be happy to learn that you had no risk, because you can't get hiv from personal contact except unprotected penetrating vaginal or anal with a penis, neither of which you did and you didn't share hollow needles to inject with which is the only other way to acquire hiv - there are ONLY 3 ways to get hiv. Note that 2 of them require a penis and the third requires a hollow injecting shared needle - there are no OTHER ways to get hiv. Analysis of large numbers of infected people over the 40 years of hiv history has proven that people don't get hiv in the way you are worried is a risk.
Hiv is a fragile virus in air or saliva and is effectively instantly dead in either air or saliva so the WORST that could happen is dead virus rubbed you, and obviously anything which is dead cannot live again so you are good. Blood and cuts would not be relevant in your situation since the hiv has become effectively dead, so you don't have to worry about them to be sure that you are safe.
There is no reason for a person to test when they are safe. The advice took into consideration that the other person might be positive, so move on and enjoy life instead of thinking about this non-event. hiv prevention is straightforward since there are only 3 ways you can become infected, so next time you wonder if you had a risk, ask yourself this QUESTION. "Did I do any of the 3?" Then after you say "No, I didn't" you will know that it's time to move on back to your happy life.
No one got hiv from what you did during 40 years of hiv history and no one will get it in the next 40 years of your life either.  You can do what you did any time and be safe from hiv.
The other person's status is irrelevant when you have no exposure to live virus.
If hiv was as infectious as you worry, everyone would have it by now.  Everyone gets cut and has someone touch it by accident lots of times every year - just watch a professional sporting event.
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Hi and thank you for the reply. At the same time, i would like to check with you on something.

I mentioned that my encounters were not penetrative. However there were times where the domestic worker kept rubbing my pee hole (the slit) with her fingers.

I checked her fingers for any signs of cuts/bleeding but was not able to find any.

Is this still a hiv concern if there were tears/cuts that were not visibily to the eye?
The only risks for HIV in adults are:
1) Having unprotected anal or vaginal sex, or
2) sharing intravenous needles with IV drug users.

NOTHING else you can think of, including the situations you asked about, would put you at risk for HIV.  Of course you do not need to test for this no-risk event.  Fingers and lips do not transmit HIV, even if they are bleeding or have bodily fluid on them.
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The risks for HIV are to have unprotected vaginal or anal sex or to share IV drug needles to inject drugs. You describe zero risk. Air inactivates the virus. People don't get HIV from touching fluid on a bed or kissing. Even with cuts on lips. Nothing you describe is a risk at all. Zero risk.
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Hi and thank you for the reply. However i would appreciate it if you are able to explain as to why the cut on the lip doesnt matter? A cut would mean access to the bloodstream right. And i have check dozen of websites that say that sweat is not a means of transmission?

I would like to apologize for my guilt/anxiety driven replies
Since you didn't answer the QUESTION, I will do it for you. > "No there wasn't a unprotected penis in my anus and mine wasn't unprotected in her and she didn't inject me with a hollow needle while I kissed her etc. so I had no risk and should move on instead of asking pointless irrelevant questions about cuts and fingers. You don't have any medical training so are wasting your time trying to study like an hiv researcher - real researchers have already worked on hiv studies for 40 years so you aren't coming up with anything that they didn't think about. Reread my post about infectious too - you're just ignoring the answers and asking irrelevant questions.
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