ORAL SEX = NO RISK (With or without sores, cuts, etc.)
FINGERING = NO RISK (With or without sores, cuts, etc.)
Testing is NOT needed at all for the events you have described.
Seek help dealing with your HIV anxiety issues if you can not shake this NO RISK event
Hope this helps
Oral sex is no risk." The docs have BOTH said time and time again in the expert forum that neither of them, in their combined DECADES of being specialists dealing with HIV have EVER seen a case of HIV as a result of oral sex, nor have they READ any convincing cases. There is a physiological reason for that. First, the virus isn't present in the saliva, making infection impossible for the receptive partner (the person receiving oral sex). Secondly, for the person GIVING oral sex, THEIR saliva contains enzymes that inhibit the virus, should they be exposed to infected genital secretions. Secondly, again, the virus has been exposed to the air and elements, rendering it inactive in an oral situation. This debate will continue, but again, for anyone worrying about an oral "exposure"...think of the facts. If it was truly a risk, there would be newly reported cases ALL the time. "
Thank you for your response, and I am at ease reading your comment as you seem like you know a lot about HIV. What concerns me why some sights refer it as a risk and others don’t. It causes so much confusion. Would I need testing at all?
And really sorry for my ignorance but what do you mean by saliva inhibits the virus. Does that mean saliva makes the virus inactive?
inhibits means prohibits. and yes it helps to make the virus in.active. YOu dont need for any HIV tests.
Thank you tomMulligan. Sorry for asking another question hope this does not annoy you.
As you read my story, you are aware I had sores due to her aggressive hand job. So when she performed oral on me, does her mouth have to be full of blood to overcome the fighting properties of Saliva? Would it matter if there was a tiny amount of blood in her Saliva?
Sorry I do hope you don't find me annoying?
hi bro you can be very confident about it receiving oral sex isnt a risk and i was told about this by health adivsers at NHS you can talk to a health adviser and i bet they will say the same thing no need to test for HIV maybe they will advise you to test for other STIs but no
certainly not for HIV. You can talk to a health adviser on phone http://www.chelwest.nhs.uk/jhc/ i have been there personally and that is what they told me specifically.
Well i am from London too desi background and i am in a big trouble but much more risky situation than yours my exposure was with an escort altough it was completely protected and i have been tested negative at 4 weeks by DUO test and now i am confused about the reliability of this test. Please wish me luck dude i have made such a big mistake i wish i can get away this time i will never do it again.
First of all it was a zero risk exposure secondly it is very very very unlikely the girl of this background was infected (considering the statistics of hiv prevalence in UK).
Your words along with Toms have provided much calmness to my mind. I have had issue with HIV for years because its a phobia. As you are aware bro that us Desi have to clear! Because it is a taboo subject in our cultures. But its just that I have paranoia. Are you certain that I need not to worry about such incident?
Regarding your issue. I say you have nothing to worry about, because the duo is 98% accurate at four weeks. But even then antibodies quickly develop. Think about it in this sense. The tests are so sensitive that it will pick up Minute amounts of anti bodies! In most countries like australia they wouldn't test anyone if they have already tested negative between 4-6 weeks is considered conclusive.
Please keep in contact would like to help each other through this anxiety.
thanks man. For you my advice is to talk to a health adviser on phone or email (preferably on phone as it will give you better assurance). I have been there personally and thats what they told me no risk of HIV from getting a blowjob the lady doctor said it never happens. Honestly speaking they consider men who have sex with men and people of african origin a high risk here in UK as 80 percent of daignoses relate to these two groups here and secondly dude it is very very very unlikely the girl from our background was infected for me it is impossible. Anyhow it doesnt matter for you exposure.
For me i am abit calm after my 4 week duo test. In Uk it is considered between 95-8 percent accurate atleast i talked to a health adviser and told her my exposure which was protected and my 4 weeks test result which i took privately and she said i need some counselling for anxiety for which she told me to get an appointment and said they will not offer any further tests for this exposure.
Definitely i will keep in touch with you and i will take one more duo test probably at around 6 weeks to move on and probably i will visit a health adviser too at NHS GUM. This was my post in the experts forum http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV-Prevention/Best-doctors-in-the-world-please-help-me/show/1431762 you
can see all the odds are in my favour and the doctors HHH analysis but still i am a little nervous.
Bro you have put your pic on your profile interesting :D u know how many desis from london come on this website. i am not UK born i am a student here and i have completely lost my track after coming here maybe cultural shock. Whatever happens man i have learnt my lesson i hope in the good way no sex before marriage for me
You are a very lucky man. MaShaAllah your in the clear. And as I have stated to you earlier. There is no risk on your part. But if you read my risk! I'm in great deal of stress I can't bare anymore that I'm losing it. But after your words and toms. MaShaAllah I have calmed my nerves. I really need to change my life style! Because I've taken so many risks and MaShaAllah they are negative. But I just keep thinking its a punishment for going back to my old wreck full self. I see you sent me a friends request. I will defo confirm it when I got on my comp. What would you think the outcome of my test if I take it?
bro where are you going to take a test (privately or NHS)? if you are going to a NHS GUM clinic most certainly they are not going to give you a test for HIV if you are going to tell them you were tested before and this was your only exposure. This happenned to me last time as you must have read my first exposure was unprotected blowjob and i was told i dont need an hiv test for this then i went to take it privately and after that i went to west london sexual health center to retake it after some time and they didnt give me a test for HIV but all other tests chlamydia syphillis gannorhea and they sent me to a health adviser (doctor) for counselling and she told me there is no risk of HIV in receiving a blowjob. It never happens thats what she told me. I think you should talk to a health adviser on the phone and see if he advises you for a test my exposure was with an escort even then they didnt offer me a re-test and for you your partner was not from a high risk group.
Yeah this is what is bothering me too after my last exposure i swear i will not do anything silly again but on new year after partying with my crazy friends i dont know why i did this altough this time i made sure everything was protected actually my plan was to have a massage and oral only no penetration but eventually i had 2-3 minutes of protected vaginal sex too. But i am 100 percent sure now after counselling that blowjob isnt a risk for HIV atleast.
When were you last tested and was this your only exposure (oral) after that & how many days have passed ? If this was your only exposure then you dont need to test but i know we should take a test to move on as i will also re-test at 6-8 weeks.You have been through this anxiety before that is why you are over reacting i guess. This is what happens man i have no idea why i did this again.
I have just found this & i think this is the best blog for hiv testing by dr jose garcia http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/167465/Whats-the-best-HIV-Test-?personal_page_id=1927312
Yeah you must be thinking i had two tests for a blowjob and i am telling you its not a risk, the reason is that was my first exposure so i didnt know anything then but after much research and counselling i have concluded blowjob is safe sex for HIV . Oh yeah bro i have found the link again this is the only guide here in UK where they have specifically written receiving oral sex isnt a risk i found it for my previous exposure http://www.tht.org.uk/informationresources/publications/general/understandinghivv5212.pdf
HIV is not usually passed on when:
• a man who does not have HIV receives oral
sex (has it done to him) from someone who
is HIV positive
• a woman receives oral sex (has it done to her)
from someone who is HIV positive
Dr. Patrick French says:
"Providing that you don't have unprotected (without a condom) vaginal or anal sex, it's very unlikely that you'll be at risk of HIV. There's no risk of getting HIV from kissing and touching.
"If you give a man oral sex, there's a small risk of getting HIV, particularly if he comes in your mouth. Some people use condoms (you can get flavoured condoms) for oral sex.
"There's no risk of HIV if a man gives you oral sex."
i guess this answer was given with reference to gay men but still it is relevant
Oral sex no matter if giving or receiving is not a risk of HIV transmission.
To Everyone. Thank you for your support. I'm in such stress over this and have thoughts that I am affected. I'm scared to go for the test, and yet I have to for peace of Mind. Teak what concerns me is that I fingered the girl very aggressively. And I I have to scabs on my fingers. I'm really not sure if they where there at the time. But they a very small like I think I scraped by finger in the gym, but I have dry skin issues so put that be an affect and could I contract HIV from that manor? Both appear to be NO RISK, Fingering with CUTS and Receiving a Blowjob which Sores! The sores on my penis appeared because her handjob to me was very aggressive. And I'm scared really scared! And I really don't wanna wait till April 2011 to get tested. I've had chest infection since last sunday is it due to this exposure. But then I remember I was out in the cold two days later after an engagement, could it be due to that? Any little achs and pain shoots up my Anxiety please HELP
They're out of anxiety. You've been told before.