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Oral sex,ejaculation in mouth and spitting out!
Hi! i am 28 yo gay.I don't find myself very promiscuous (had anal sex with 4 people and maybe 10-15 oral for 8-9 years)I have a partner for 2 years.I had maybe twice a year a ** adventures.But 4 months ago I went to Istanbul and I wanted to have an adventure.I was giving a ** to a guy,and he started to ejaculate in my mouth.He surprised me because I was sucking him maybe 15 second.When I felt first load on my tongue ,I started spiting it out.several times.I didn't have water beside.I went to toilet and washed it with water.I spit few times again to see if there is any blood in my mouth( I had occasionally bleeding gums,but at this perod I didn't have.I definitely wouldn't give a ** to anyone if I had!)..So, he came into my mouth with one load.I was very scared.( i generally don't like *** in my mouth,and I never let starnger to to before)I don't know his hiv status.The only think that makes me reliefed is that population of hiv+ people in Turkey is very low!I was worried some time,but I forgot about it because I read it's very low risk.But,10 days ago,I started again digging,and as much I was digging,the more concerned I became.I became very depressive and I can't eat.I only think about that.It's only because that there are very different stories.Some say that is very low risk,some say its' the same risk like vaginal intercourse,etc.And I am very confused and scared.I have a partner for 2 years and we have unprotected sex.Beside him,I didn't have anal intercouse since march 2005.Please someone help me to sleep better! Should I be concerned that much?! I want to go testing ,but have not courage now..
teak is correct and plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz listen to him,i had a very very bad case of a hiv issue and teak was right,am NEGATIVE.
Ok.When I came back to this forum to ask this, I wanted to ask something that I was bothered also about this case of mine.After this exposure I described in this post(oral sex with ejaculation),tomorrow morning I had an 'afta' in my mouth.It lasted only one day.I don't know how you say it in english,but it's a half sphered spot,I get it sometimes in 6 months and it lasts few days.People say they get it when they are exausted ,or it's bacterial thing.Maybe it is a concidence,but I had it a day tomorrow after this exposure.Do you think it had a connection with it,or it was a symptom for something.I had it only one day,after that I didn't have it again. I had it 6 months before this last time also..
Thanx
Thanx
hello everyone,in 2006 i had oral sex with this guy who std,hiv/aids status was unkhown,a week later this sudden weight loss started to occur and my skin got dark and these dark spots would come on my back,face and chest and i had hair looking things growing on my tougue,i was sooooo scared that i never went to see a doctor until 2008 were my whole std,hiv,aids test came back negative.until now i am still with really wired this weight loss and skin infection.i eat alots and i feel soooo healthy,i went to soooooooooooooooooooooo many doctors and specailist.plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz help me figure out what to do so i can live my life again. i have this hair loss on my arms and legs that leaves bald spots and my skin looks sooooo dirty and dark,i eat normal and i feel ok but i am so worried about this weight loss.
god bless and thanks very very much!!!!!!!
send me many messages,kiss!
god bless and thanks very very much!!!!!!!
send me many messages,kiss!
No one is totally immuned from contracting HIV. I know people that have contracted HIV on their first exposure and I know others that had unprotected sex and lucked out and never contracted but guess what? Those that found out their spouse was positive NOW use condoms.
Ok.I understand.But I read some interview about a man who had HIV and didn't know.He slept with his wife all the time unprotected,but she didin't get the virus.Are some people immune on HIV ,or can't get that easy?Why's that? Why somebody get after 1st sex,and somebody after 30th,and somebody never! By all that,we can have a conclusion that HIV is not that easy to get as we usually think - after 1st exposure!
I hope you understand my question:)
I hope you understand my question:)
Like...On lots of debates about it,experts say that somebody can have 100 times with HIV+ person and not to get it,but can get it 101st time.And some people don't know their partner (or husband for example) have HIV,and they have unprotected sex with him,and never get the virus.What's the catch about that?
I agree totally! And still don't understand those statistics about risk...1:200 for oral intercourse,1:400 for vaginal unprotected etc.If you have unprotected sex,vaginal or anal,it's much more chance to contract to hiv than not to get it! If somebody doesn't contract hiv from HIV+ person during unprotected anal or vaginal,I think it can be considered as a pure luck! Or maybe I'm wrong(?)....
lol,hiv can infect either anal or vaginal,the risk is the same.people need to get smart and use condoms................
I know! Because it's easier to contract hiv trough anal sex than with vaginal intercourse. It doesn't mean that str8 people don't have anal sex also;)
lol,am gay and i am fully healthy on the hiv side.why do some people keep pointing at gays for hiv ? its WROUNG!
You need to change your avatar...teak has been using that picture forever, and people identify with the picture as being HIS posts.....find your own unique picture.
A lot of cases is just interviews where you have people who have contracted HIV and say well I only had oral sex. So that is how they come up with that.
A study that was done had 1 negative partner and 1 positive partner, they had protected sex and unprotected oral sex. No new infections. A actual study speaks better then interviews.
If you were married man who says he is straight would you say that you had unprotected anal sex or would you say I was wondering so I tried unprotected oral sex?
Most of the well respected Dr's will say either no risk or will say very low risk. And very low is less then 1% of a risk according to them. The CDC will always be conservative, they even have a article linked on their website that talks about kissing has a possibility because one person said they got HIV from kissing. And every Dr says there is no risk with kissing.
A study that was done had 1 negative partner and 1 positive partner, they had protected sex and unprotected oral sex. No new infections. A actual study speaks better then interviews.
If you were married man who says he is straight would you say that you had unprotected anal sex or would you say I was wondering so I tried unprotected oral sex?
Most of the well respected Dr's will say either no risk or will say very low risk. And very low is less then 1% of a risk according to them. The CDC will always be conservative, they even have a article linked on their website that talks about kissing has a possibility because one person said they got HIV from kissing. And every Dr says there is no risk with kissing.
boxer7,thank you for your post! You are a brave young man! But in your age I didn't have sex at all:)...I think that anxiety of aids is problem for most of us on this forum,and not only 'a really risky behaviour'.We are scared,feel quilty etc.That is more a menthal stuff.And we need a word of relief and understand.I am not promiscous person ( I personally believe),but like all sinners ,had some episodes.The problem is that after all hanky pankies I had in my life ,I had the same feeling ,more or less.But this last was just last drop in the glass of water! It is something I thought I would never let anyone to do....After this,I will think twice before i have anything with some strange person.
And when I came back to this forum,I wanted to ask something I forgot.Those 'CDC studies' say that 12 men of 135 contracted HiV trough oral sex.Everybody would say that is a nonsense.I personally believe it can't be possible.If it is like that ,than every 10th person would have HIV probably.But anyway,aren't those cases those who are 'documented'?..because lots of people here say there is no documented case of oral sex transmission.On some other site,I think body.com,one doctor said that there are 24 documented cases in the world (?) Who made those documents,and who have those data (globally)
The question is for Teak and for all people I spoke about this already
And when I came back to this forum,I wanted to ask something I forgot.Those 'CDC studies' say that 12 men of 135 contracted HiV trough oral sex.Everybody would say that is a nonsense.I personally believe it can't be possible.If it is like that ,than every 10th person would have HIV probably.But anyway,aren't those cases those who are 'documented'?..because lots of people here say there is no documented case of oral sex transmission.On some other site,I think body.com,one doctor said that there are 24 documented cases in the world (?) Who made those documents,and who have those data (globally)
The question is for Teak and for all people I spoke about this already
In my personal opinion, I think oral sex both ways is a risk that is SO low that it is not worth testing and worrying after a one time exposure. The 2 doctors on this forum have been studying HIV/AIDS since its been around and have never seen a person acquire HIV through oral sex. As for the CDC, they are ultra conservative and say oral sex is a risk because its theoretical. Just like me or you could be struck by a small meteor anytime, anywhere. Its most certainly possible but do you really think it would happen? No. And i strongly agree with what LIZZIE LOU said with people claiming that they got HIV through oral just to cover their own butts. As for courage to go get tested, i faced that problem at one point. Think of this: "At the 3 month post exposure mark, I should just get tested for my VERY low risk exposure JUST to ease my anxiety. I will NEED to know eventually, why not get it over with". Look, i'm 16 years old and gave/ received oral sex with a girl whose known to be VERY risky. After 12 weeks ( Anxiety HELL, parents not knowing, all alone in my situation), i walked 4 miles after school to get tested. After hearing the word " NEGATIVE" i almost cried and it became the best day of my life. I want you to have that feeling too if its really bothering you. And i'm not just saying this for you to feel bad for me or whatever. Good luck and live your life.
-Matt
-Matt
In my personal opinion, I think oral sex both ways is a risk that is SO low that it is not worth testing and worrying after a one time exposure. The 2 doctors on this forum have been studying HIV/AIDS since its been around and have never seen a person acquire HIV through oral sex. As for the CDC, they are ultra conservative and say oral sex is a risk because its theoretical. Just like me or you could be struck by a small meteor anytime, anywhere. Its most certainly possible but do you really think it would happen? No. And i strongly agree with what LIZZIE LOU said with people claiming that they got HIV through oral just to cover their own butts. As for courage to go get tested, i faced that problem at one point. Think of this: "At the 3 month post exposure mark, I should just get tested for my VERY low risk exposure JUST to ease my anxiety. I will NEED to know eventually, why not get it over with". Look, i'm 16 years old and gave/ received oral sex with a girl whose known to be VERY risky. After 12 weeks ( Anxiety HELL, parents not knowing, all alone in my situation), i walked 4 miles after school to get tested. After hearing the word " NEGATIVE" i almost cried and it became the best day of my life. I want you to have that feeling too if its really bothering you. And i'm not just saying this for you to feel bad for me or whatever. Good luck and live your life.
-Matt
-Matt
So basically the conclusion of this forum is recepitive oral sex transmission dosent happen or is rare and insertive never if im following right?
If I had courage to go testing,I wouldn't write on this forum desperately seeking for answers!:) But when I do it,I will go will less fear now when I got all the answers.So many different opinions,but the conclusion is basicly the same: Oral sex i s a very low risk activity! Thanx all good people who answered my problem!! And I learned a lot. I will always have a condom in a pocket in a future!:)
Serbguy, you should get tested, period. All sexually active people should be tested periodically, and this especially applies to men who have sex with men.
As for oral sex risks - it is a question that never dies. According to the experts at the CDC it is a risk, but everybody agrees that the risk level is so vanishingly low that it is not even worth worrying about it. A negative test result will calm you down better than anything else.
All the best!
As for oral sex risks - it is a question that never dies. According to the experts at the CDC it is a risk, but everybody agrees that the risk level is so vanishingly low that it is not even worth worrying about it. A negative test result will calm you down better than anything else.
All the best!
I respect Teak, and he is doing a great job here. I am just stating my opinion (or rather restating the rationale for CDC opinion), my ego is fine. As for the research, I did not say CDC research, I wrote "some research" - under that I meant Options study (R.Hecht, 2003) where out of 8 reported cases of oral transmission 2 were corraborated by partners, and, importantly, both cases were matched up by phylogenetic sequencing.
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