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Oral sex with (possible) torn lingual frenulum
Hello I gave oral sex to a straight male he claims he’s been tested and only has unprotected sex with official girlfriends (of which he’s had two or three) but obviously doesn’t mean much without proof. We made out for a long time and the morning afterwards the area under my tongue was sore. I cannot be sure if my frenulum was torn or not as it has been a month but I don’t remember noticing anything crazy besides maybe some redness on that area. Anyways, shortly after making out I gave him oral. He did not ejaculate directly in my mouth but very shortly after I did run my tongue around the tip so I think some of the semen made contact with the top and bottom side of my tongue. I’ve tested 31 days post exposure with a 4th generation test from Labcorp and it came back non reactive. All things considered (including a possible cut under my tongue that may have come in contact with semen) can I trust my negative results at only 4 weeks? Thank you for your help.
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You never had a risk to be worry about. There is no point in speculating HIV type 2 just because you can't stop reading through the internet about HIV, this is starting to become obsession for you.
You need to know that oral sex is not a risk for HIV transmission, even with your wound or cut nothing changes because presence of saliva would inhibit the virus.
You need to know that oral sex is not a risk for HIV transmission, even with your wound or cut nothing changes because presence of saliva would inhibit the virus.
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Thank you I guess I just wanted to be sure. I guess it just seems hard to believe that saliva could inhibit the virus even if it went directly into the cut, but I don’t think you guys would be so dismissive unless you were sure. And regardless the 4 week test did come back negative. Thank you again.
Medical research involves more than gut feeling. There has been 40 years of hiv research, so dismissing it as "hard to believe" isn't something that a layman should feel confident about.
True, I meant more that it’d be able to inhibit it if the fluid came into direct contact with the cut. But then again I’m not sure of salivary gland locations or which areas of the mouth saliva covers. And even then it’d more than likely require a deep and large open area and a significant amount of infected fluid. And if it does prove inactive as soon as it comes into contact with air well that’s another plus even if it is air in the mouth. Thank you again.
You don't test for E Coli after every meal or study the biological life cycle issues with it, although hundreds of people actually die every year from food borne pathogens, so your desire for deeper understanding of the biology behind zero risk oral hiv is a bit misplaced.
You are wasting your time trying to gain a deep understanding of the biology when medical research has already summarized it for you. There are only 3 and that is all anyone needs to focus on.
You are wasting your time trying to gain a deep understanding of the biology when medical research has already summarized it for you. There are only 3 and that is all anyone needs to focus on.
I’m fine without it, probably for the best as I’m sure most people anxious about it only twist it to fit their narrative. As long as you guys agree that oral even with an opening is not a risk and a 4 week DUO test is conclusive I’m more than happy to put this behind me. Thank you guys.
Actually I do have one more question; even with ejaculation straight in the mouth does it still count as being exposed to air if it’s in the mouth?
Let's make this simple since there are only 3 risks. Which of the 3 do you feel was your risk? If none, then reread about unrealistic theory.
None I guess. Again just wanted clarification on how fluid to a break in skin wouldn’t pose a risk. But you guys are experts, so I’ll take my negative and go.
You can't get hiv fron oral, so you should move on. Your test was a waste of time.
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. This HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk. Because of all the research statistics, doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. This HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk. Because of all the research statistics, doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
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Hello and thank you for your help! So even if he had ejaculated into my mouth directly where the cut is there’d still be no risk? I’m pretty sure it wasn’t until after he had finished ejaculating that I made contact with it but as it’s been a month I can’t recall. Regardless in any case is a 4 weeks HIV duo test conclusive? Thank you again.
The mouth is a very hostile environment for HIV. Also, for a cut to be of sufficient severity to allow HIV transmission, you would not be in a position, pain-wise, to give oral sex, and you'd be bleeding noticeably.
However, in any case, your DUO is conclusive and you can move on from this event.
However, in any case, your DUO is conclusive and you can move on from this event.
Thank you so much
I see HIV 2 takes longer to be detected should this be a concern? The man in question is Puerto Rican and to my best knowledge has only been with other Latino girls. We live in the US.
No - you should forget about this event and move on.
Let's make this simple since there are only 3 risks. Which of the 3 do you feel was your risk? If none, then reread about unrealistic theory.
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