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The Virus.

When people talk about Seroconversion beyond 6 Months (delayed seroconversion) they speak of existing immune defiency conditions or being a IV drug user, etc. But no one ever speaks about the virus itself.  The Virus is apart of a virus family called Lentivirus.  'Lenti' is Spanish for Slow.  HIV is a stealth virus evades the body's immune system which in turn delays the body's defenses and delays Antibodies.  Current testing is very accurate and sensitive but its worthless if the virus hides from the defenses. The virus can remain latent for a long time before its activated. This is very important to know and would challenge  window periods of 8 weeks to 12 weeks.  Think outside the box. There is so much information out there. Any thoughts on this?  
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They talk about ppl with weak immune systems. Meaning ppl in chemo therapy. Things like that. If your in that category then 6 months. If your not in that category then 12 weeks.
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http://www.cdc.gov/globalaids/Resources/pmtct-care/docs/TM/Module_6TM.pdf
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  In an adult, a positive HIV antibody test result means that the person is infected, a person with a negative or inconclusive result may be in the “window for 4 to 6 weeks but occasionally up to 3 months after HIV exposure. Persons at high risk who initially test negative should be retested 3 months after exposure to confirm results
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If you search the Internet you'll find people who seroconverted way beyond 3 months. There is one case where the person took 30 months (2.5 years) to show positive on a test. The virus remained dorment in the persons  body until it was activated By a shingles outbreak. Unbelievable, but true. The CDC doesn't truly know the window period.  They are taking a calculated guess based on data they've collected.
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Move on.
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Teak, copy this link into your browser :  http://m.annals.org/content/111/12/961.abstract
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Everyone please go to the link I posted above.  Copy and paste it in your browser. Its a study written by more then 10 physicians of gay men seroconverting years after their exposure! Not 3 months, but years!!!  No one knows the window period. I ask everyone who has been exposed to continue testing beyond 3 months to be sure. I'm not making this up. I've cited a study.
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Yeah go to the link of an article written in 1989 which is totally outdated, like 23 years outdated.


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So in 20 years we've went from a window period of 3 years to 3 months? If that's true that must be the biggest feat in Medicine, ever! The authors of the report (over 10 doctors) reported that 20 homosexual men seroconverted wayyy beyond 6 months (9, 18, 30 months), but now we're comfortable with 3 months. Very concerning.. Very...
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Old testing technology that doesn't exist anymore. Modern tests are more sensitive- why is it that hard to accept?

One outdated study has no bearing on the window period. You don't have the scientific background to determine its significance. There is some other mental process that isn't letting you accept your negative serostatus and you are looking for reasons to validate whatever it is that's operating, whether it is guilt, OCD, paranoia, etc.

Anyway, the purpose of this forum is not to debate established science. What you are doing is essentially using debate to question your own conclusive results, which the forum rules do not permit. This is not the place to discuss this.
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Outdated? Well, what about this case (copy and paste in your broswer): http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/Labs/Q8096.html?ic=2003   This was reported to a Doctor on TheBody.com website in 2000 (12 years ago). The person took 2.5 years to Seroconvert! The tests in 2000 were pretty much the same as today. Sorry, I'm not buying the 3 months window period. There is so much evidence out there that negates it. I have more cases too.
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Hard to dispute what I'm saying when I'm citing reports and cases.
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