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Recently I had a one night stand and received oral sex. I briefly inserted my penis into her vagina (2 thrusts). I vaguely remember this girl's friend telling me that she was formerly a victim of rape. Am I at risk?
Recently I had a one night stand and received oral sex. I briefly inserted my penis into her vagina (2 thrusts). I vaguely remember this girl's friend telling me that she was formerly a victim of rape. Am I at risk?
Ok sorry if i offended you by any means i will definitely move on. Now i will be honest altough you know i didnt have a real risk(protected bj,protected vaginal and fingering) and i have had a duo test at 4 weeks and i will be repeating it after 6 weeks. Now when i stick to the experts forum (both prevention and international) i feel better then as soon as i get to this forum and read 3 month is only conclusive i get anxious again. I am trying to calm myself to be honest and for that i guess i will stay away from this forum.I simply cant wait for 3 months i am a student and i have lost so much already, wish me luck that my 6 week test comes back negative. Anyways you are doing a great job teak keep it up!!!!!
Yeah i will move on i was just trying to prove my point i know you are never going to accept it but anyone who is obective and independent can clearly see the discrepancy and lack of logic here.
Yeah this was exactly what i was expecting from you , you gave me some quotes from CDC now i will also give you some quotes from them. Now if you can please give me some quotes which say not to follow this from CDC i will be happy i know you will then refer to Dr HHH & Dr hook. Then i will also quote them about duo test reliability in all circumstances maybe more than 100 if you like.
CDC
Like all sexual activity, oral sex carries some risk of HIV transmission when one partner is known to be infected with HIV, when either partner’s HIV status is not known, and/or when one partner is not monogamous or injects drugs. Even though the risk of transmitting HIV through oral sex is much lower than that of anal or vaginal sex, numerous studies have demonstrated that oral sex can result in the transmission of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Abstaining from oral, anal, and vaginal sex altogether or having sex only with a mutually monogamous, uninfected partner are the only ways that individuals can be completely protected from the sexual transmission of HIV. However, by using condoms or other barriers between the mouth and genitals, individuals can reduce their risk of contracting HIV or another STD through oral sex.
The risk of HIV transmission from an infected partner through oral sex is much less than the risk of HIV transmission from anal or vaginal sex. Measuring the exact risk of HIV transmission as a result of oral sex is very difficult. Additionally, because most sexually active individuals practice oral sex in addition to other forms of sex, such as vaginal and/or anal sex, when transmission occurs, it is difficult to determine whether or not it occurred as a result of oral sex or other more risky sexual activities. Finally, several co-factors may increase the risk of HIV transmission through oral sex, including: oral ulcers, bleeding gums, genital sores, and the presence of other STDs. What is known is that HIV has been transmitted through fellatio, cunnilingus, and anilingus.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/oralsex.htm
CDC
Like all sexual activity, oral sex carries some risk of HIV transmission when one partner is known to be infected with HIV, when either partner’s HIV status is not known, and/or when one partner is not monogamous or injects drugs. Even though the risk of transmitting HIV through oral sex is much lower than that of anal or vaginal sex, numerous studies have demonstrated that oral sex can result in the transmission of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). Abstaining from oral, anal, and vaginal sex altogether or having sex only with a mutually monogamous, uninfected partner are the only ways that individuals can be completely protected from the sexual transmission of HIV. However, by using condoms or other barriers between the mouth and genitals, individuals can reduce their risk of contracting HIV or another STD through oral sex.
The risk of HIV transmission from an infected partner through oral sex is much less than the risk of HIV transmission from anal or vaginal sex. Measuring the exact risk of HIV transmission as a result of oral sex is very difficult. Additionally, because most sexually active individuals practice oral sex in addition to other forms of sex, such as vaginal and/or anal sex, when transmission occurs, it is difficult to determine whether or not it occurred as a result of oral sex or other more risky sexual activities. Finally, several co-factors may increase the risk of HIV transmission through oral sex, including: oral ulcers, bleeding gums, genital sores, and the presence of other STDs. What is known is that HIV has been transmitted through fellatio, cunnilingus, and anilingus.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/oralsex.htm
MOVE ON. We go by the manfactures guidelines and the FDA guidelines alone with the CDC recommendations.
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/BloodBloodProducts/ApprovedProducts/LicensedProductsBLAs/BloodDonorScreening/InfectiousDisease/UCM216314.pdf
Page 27
Current methods for the detection of HIV may not detect all infected individuals. An ARCHITECT HIV Ag/Ab Combo test result that is nonreactive does not exclude the possibility of exposure to or infection with HIV-1 and/or HIV-2. Nonreactive results in this assay for individuals with prior exposure to HIV-1 and/or HIV-2 may be due to antigen and antibody levels below the limit of detection of this assay.
All testing follows the same basic steps:
The window period lasts 4 to 6 weeks but occasionally up to 3 months after HIV exposure. Persons at high risk who initially test negative should be retested 3 months after exposure to confirm results.
http://www.cdc.gov/globalaids/Resources/pmtct-care/docs/TM/Module_6TM.pdf
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http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/BloodBloodProducts/ApprovedProducts/LicensedProductsBLAs/BloodDonorScreening/InfectiousDisease/UCM216314.pdf
Page 27
Current methods for the detection of HIV may not detect all infected individuals. An ARCHITECT HIV Ag/Ab Combo test result that is nonreactive does not exclude the possibility of exposure to or infection with HIV-1 and/or HIV-2. Nonreactive results in this assay for individuals with prior exposure to HIV-1 and/or HIV-2 may be due to antigen and antibody levels below the limit of detection of this assay.
All testing follows the same basic steps:
The window period lasts 4 to 6 weeks but occasionally up to 3 months after HIV exposure. Persons at high risk who initially test negative should be retested 3 months after exposure to confirm results.
http://www.cdc.gov/globalaids/Resources/pmtct-care/docs/TM/Module_6TM.pdf
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finally please also let me know your honest and clear advice now is he lying or he doesnt know ? thanks i know you will not like it but still i have a legitimate question
Thanks for the clarification this was a really good reply. I got it now. Just one thing i am still confused is you said you follow FDA & CDC guidelines here and you give me UK BHIVA guidelines too but if you go on their websites they consider everything a risk including oral sex let alone fingering. Can you please tell me who decides what guidelines to pick from them and what to ignore? I know you will not like this but really if you are rational and objective then it makes sense doesnt it?
i never say anything on my own all i do is give references (quotes) of experts of medhelp which you say above i can so i am sure i am not doing anything wrong here.
One more link i am going to give you from DR JOSE GONZALEZ GARCIA who is an expert on this site too and dr hhh and dr hook never disagree with their advice. If you are not goin to accept it then definitely you believe he is lying as in this post he is very clear about the latest guidelines in UK for medical professionals as they are also registered with health care commission here and are being regulated too. So the only thing i can take it is that you think he is lying even he is a medical doctor and has been clinically active here for many many years. So the only possibility is he is lying or he doesnt know about the guidelines here in UK as this post is clear as crystal if you like
is there an official window period guide in the UK or is it left to doctor discretion, I have read you describe the DUO test as conclusive on many occasions yet all I read about is the fact ghat nothing is conclusive until the 3 month mark
It is conclusive at 28 days. No one has to wait as long as 3 months any more to have a conclusive HIV test. 4 weeks is the official current guideline in the UK for this test
4 how conclusive is my 4 week test
Fully conclusive, well above 99.98%
5 finally iv read the link to the 2008 uk guidelines on HIV testing and to my limited interpretation they seem to stipulate that the DUO test is very useful for early detection not providing conclusive negatives? What is your interpretation this, am I wrong?
Things have moved on since 2008 and the latest guidelines do specify 4 weeks as the window period required to have a conclusive final result.
i never say anything on my own all i do is give references (quotes) of experts of medhelp which you say above i can so i am sure i am not doing anything wrong here.
One more link i am going to give you from DR JOSE GONZALEZ GARCIA who is an expert on this site too and dr hhh and dr hook never disagree with their advice. If you are not goin to accept it then definitely you believe he is lying as in this post he is very clear about the latest guidelines in UK for medical professionals as they are also registered with health care commission here and are being regulated too. So the only thing i can take it is that you think he is lying even he is a medical doctor and has been clinically active here for many many years. So the only possibility is he is lying or he doesnt know about the guidelines here in UK as this post is clear as crystal if you like
is there an official window period guide in the UK or is it left to doctor discretion, I have read you describe the DUO test as conclusive on many occasions yet all I read about is the fact ghat nothing is conclusive until the 3 month mark
It is conclusive at 28 days. No one has to wait as long as 3 months any more to have a conclusive HIV test. 4 weeks is the official current guideline in the UK for this test
4 how conclusive is my 4 week test
Fully conclusive, well above 99.98%
5 finally iv read the link to the 2008 uk guidelines on HIV testing and to my limited interpretation they seem to stipulate that the DUO test is very useful for early detection not providing conclusive negatives? What is your interpretation this, am I wrong?
Things have moved on since 2008 and the latest guidelines do specify 4 weeks as the window period required to have a conclusive final result.
To late to worry now. Worrying won't do a thing. Get tested and start using condoms correctly and consistently.
Can you please address my question? Get tested, but don't lose sleep the way to go? Okay to have protected sex?
On MedHelp, we follow the guidelines set by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), test manufacturers, FDA, and our experts, Drs. HHH and Hook.
For this forum, it is 3 months. Yes, a 6 or 8 week test may be accurate, but it's not conclusive until 3 months. Saying that the 6 or 8 week test is a good indicator is fine, but to be conclusive, testing must happen at 3 months. It is also this forum's position that oral sex by itself does not require testing.
You can quote doctors, but make sure you say that. Doctors are licensed to practice medicine and can say that given the particulars about exposure, timing, etc., that someone doesn't need more testing. However, unless you are a doctor, you can't say that.
Emily
MedHelp
For this forum, it is 3 months. Yes, a 6 or 8 week test may be accurate, but it's not conclusive until 3 months. Saying that the 6 or 8 week test is a good indicator is fine, but to be conclusive, testing must happen at 3 months. It is also this forum's position that oral sex by itself does not require testing.
You can quote doctors, but make sure you say that. Doctors are licensed to practice medicine and can say that given the particulars about exposure, timing, etc., that someone doesn't need more testing. However, unless you are a doctor, you can't say that.
Emily
MedHelp
Bro i have seen some of your comments in the expert forum about hiv testing times why do you post 3 month as only conclusive here and nothing more or less while on the expert forum you posted 4 weeks for a duo is reliable and experts also say it is definite anytime after 4 weeks. why is there a discrepancy here
Will definitely get tested, should I be greatly worried between now and then? Avoid other sexual activity?
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