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I was making out with a CSW a few months ago and kissed her body all over. While at the time I noted she had lesions on her breasts I assumed they were pimples and kissed them anyway. Fast forward and I have acquire syphilis from kissing these lesions from her secondary syphilis rash. Noticed the chancre on my lip and contacted her, she confirmed she had syphilis and to boot she informed me she was recently diagnosed HIV positive. I’m freaking out. . I have been reading the forum and Dr Hook notes that syphilis is a gateway for HIV.

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Worried-about-HIV-in-conjunction-with-syphilis/show/1796014

What I don’t understand is this...it sounds like it would be possible for me to get HIV in this scenario as the syphilis would make the sores full of HIV and I kissed them, got the chancre on my mouth and now I have a rash on my trunk that has been there a while. Not raised, flat and pink.

I’m not looking for reassurance I honestly want facts and an assessment of this. Sounds like HIV transmission is possible from the sores. Thanks
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You were not at a risk. Your interpretation of HIV transmission through the method you describe is inaccurate as HIV can be only transmitted through sexual contact inside of body, an unprotected vaginal or anal intercourse scenario.

Even if there was blood, puss or any other body fluid present on the surface of the infected person's skin and that came in contact with your penis - it wouldn't be able to infect you since presence of air would not host the viral transmission. Also, for considering even a minute possibility of transmission in your case, there had to be 'large' amount of infected fluid present. One drop is not large!

Your issue seems to be guilt and that is making you vulnerable to illogical ideas, your brain is greiving for what you consider a mistake. To make peace, please see a therapist.  No one ever has contracted HIV in that fashion and you are not going to be the first one.
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Not sure how to edit my original post but I also inserted my penis between her breasts while she had these sores and I also have developed a lesion on my penis. Would this be a cause for HIV concern as well thank you all
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This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore  testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.  
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis. Only the head needs to be covered, so if that happened it is  protected and there is zero risk
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis. Only the head needs to be covered, so if that happened it is protected and there is zero risk.
3. sharing hollow needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. This HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk. Because of all the research statistics, doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either.
If you didn't have one of the 3 then you are just worrying about your own hiv theory - which is unrealistic for you to think that can become reality - so you should move on back to your happy life instead.
You only kissed her and rubbed your penis on her. Those are not hiv risks. See doc about your rashes because this is not a rash forum.
Thanks for the reply. Just wondering what you make of Dr Hooks comment about HIV being passed through Syphilis sores?  I understand HIV is a fragile virus but he says Syphilis is a gateway that HIV can pass through skin to skin contact and my penis got infected from the sores. Thoughts on this?
Zero risk from touching times syphyllis risk= zero risk which is basic math. Zero times anything = zero.
We rely on the opinion of expert doctors who state that there are only the above 3 risks for hiv, so can't be arguing with whatever you have located since you don't have any medical training and could be misinterpreting the article.
Let`s make this simple since there are only 3 risks. Which of the 3 do you feel was your risk? If none then you are just worrying about your own science theory which is unrealistic for you to believe that can become reality.
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