White spots inside cheeks - HIV?

[SkinJ]

Hello all - today I have felt a roughness on the insides of my mouth I now have white spots, lots of them, on the insides of my mouth lining the cheeks both sides and upper gum. My gingivitis has diminished although bleeding of my gums is still there, just not all of them. I think this is candida, but not sure. I have been to the doctor earlier as the white spots originated on my lips, top lip more than bottom. I thought they were herpes, but he said if they were I would be in agony. They are still there, however he concluded that these were Fordyces spots, something I suggested to him at the time. The same spots are now on the insides of my cheeks. Lots of them. They do not hurt. They were not there before. Just as the white spots on my lips were not there before.

I think my imune system is supressed. I have had swollen glands in my neck and a sore throat since week 3 - that lasted for about 3 weeks with the glands in my neck remaining enlarged for 6 weeks. Its now week 9 since exposure on Oct 3rd with unprotected vaginal sex (I am male) and oral sex on her with a stripper / CSW.

Can any one who has Candida confirm the way it behaves. I read things like can be scraped off to reveal red bleeding flesh and so on. How hard do you have to scrape to remove it? I am confused and of course anxious about all of this. I am going to try to go back to the gum clinic hoping they can do more than simply take a blood test. Some advice would be appreciated from them, thats been lacking so far. A doctor at the gum clinic said she had not seen spots like this on my lips before and that gingivits is simply bad dental hygene and the herpes was nothing to worry about as she herself had herpes 1 since chilhood.

I think the gingivitis was the first real sign of imuno supression and that the white spots are the next stage. Stress can count for a lot, but I do not think that stress creates this in your mouth.

I have tested at 2 weeks and day 27 - both neg for HIV. Waiting for 12 weeks at the GUM clinic.

Any advice on what I can do to treat Candida would be appreciated. This is really screwing me up.

[bournemistake]

You need to be slapped. U have a 22 month negative? GTFOH

[Rae1]

exactly -- just broke out in barber's rash this week, mainly due to this **** lotion i had and i started to worry about the whole HIV bit again... the fear definitely does take over. I've been tested out to 7 months and am still inspecting myself. Dont end up like me! ;)

[SkinJ]

Thanks Rae1 - not sure what the symptoms are, just have this big fear that they are HIV related. I will attend the GUM clinic this week and let them have a look. I am not sure that they will test. Only 2 weeks to go or there abouts to officially test.

One of the problems with this whole HIV thing is that you find yourself looking at everything in minute detail and extrapolate the worst. I will report back what the clinic says.

[Rae1]

I have white spots on the insides of my cheeks (up high) from grinding my teeth at night, i have a lot of friction b/w my mouth and insides of my cheeks. I also have white spots on my lips, theyre fordyce spots, theyre harmless, and i know that' what you're seeing. Your symptoms dont sound like HIV and were you even diagnosed with gingivitis?

Either way, its a common symptom in ANYONE. Why dont you go get a test next week at the GUM clinic? It will give you more peace of mind than posting on a forum and wont change at the 12 wk mark.

Report your negative.

[Teak]

No, 22 months negative is way beyond the period of diagnosing HIV. It's time you face the facts that your problems have nothing to do with HIV. Why aren't you posting all these questions on "Ask A Dr. Forum?" It's because you know that they will tell you. The exact thing everyone here has told you. You don't have HIV.

[SkinJ]

I think you'll find it is:

http://www.thebody.com/content/art2537.html

and I do take care of my mouth.

There are many conditions of the mouth caused by HIV and a supressed imune system. Point being I had none of this before and now I do. Form Chris's comments I do not think it is it Candida. I will try to see my ever helpful doctors tomorrow.

[Teak]

Immune suppression doesn't happen over night and having just one symptom doesn't qualify anyone to be immune suppressed.

[Rae1]

gingivitis is not a sign of immunosuppression.... you need to take care of your mouth better.

[SkinJ]

Thanks Chris - I just thought it showed only on lips. These are not easy to scrape off, I have not tried as they are very much under the skin so I guess its not Candida? Fordyces are casued by blocked oil ducts. Most say cause is unknown, but some sites suggest this is due to a viral infection, this of course does not have to be HIV, there are other viruses. I can't wait for 2007 to disappear.