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hiv and oral sex with open sores

Hi, is it possible to catch hiv through oral sex with having an extraction done 3 weeks before incident with unprotected oral having had time to heal, and going to dentist on same day as incident with oral sex and having teeth worked on and gums bleed and having little cuts in the mouth. Having unprotected oral w only pre-cum if any. Do sores have to be deep sores for hiv to be transmitted and or do sores have to be bleeding at time of contact to catch hiv?
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Ok, thanx, so why would the hiv couselor be concerned then like I had mentioed what she said about being concerned if sores hurt and are open and bleeding. Also another hiv coucelor said u literally have to be just punched in the mouth and bleeding to have transmission. I read on here also that u have to have a deep sore inable for hiv to even get threw sore, true, not true? Thanx!
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There has never been a case of HIV transmitted by kissing.
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Thank you so much for ur reply, u have helped my anxiety. My anxiety comes an goes about this topic and I have it most when I'm on my window period. I read a study somewhere however that hiv was transmitted by kissing only becuase the person who was kissing other persons gums were bleeding at the time of kissing, is this not possible, did I read the study wrong?....also when I got tested the hiv counselor said she wouldn't be worried about hiv is sores were not noticable but if I could feel sores and they were hurting and bleeding she would be more concearned with hiv. Was she mislead too? Help! Thank you!
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No incident HIV infections among MSM who practice exclusively oral sex.
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
J Campo1, MA Perea1, J del Romero2, J Cano1, V Hernando2, A Bascones1
Oral Diseases (2006) 12, 219–228

AIDS: Volume 16(17) 22 November 2002 pp 2350-2352
Risk of HIV infection attributable to oral sex among men who have sex with men and in the population of men who have sex with men

Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

Jenicek M. "Clinical Case Reporting" in Evidence-Based Medicine. Oxford: Butterworth–Heinemann; 1999:117
Saltzman SP, Stoddard AM, McCusker J, Moon MW, Mayer KH. Reliability of self-reported sexual behavior risk factors for HIV infection in homosexual men. Public Health Rep. 1987 102(6):692–697.Nov–Dec;

Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex. The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way. Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk". There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex. Please educate yourself about the real risks. If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. " DR HANSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..." DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

"The observation on thousands and thousands of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort)." DR HOOK
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Hi, thank u for ur reply, but I heard it can be cosidered low risk with open sores and that's how it can be trasmitted. Now I'm a bit confused. HmMm
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Oral sex is not a risk for HIV no matter what the circumstances.
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