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study:hiv may infiltrate intact oral mucosa and...

http://www.aidsmap.com/Transmission-of-HIV-in-oral-sex-cells-lining-mouth-provide-beachhead-for-HIV/page/1415512/
this is the summary of the study
more analytical here:http://www.retrovirology.com/content/5/1/66

and another one here say epithelium cells from oral mucosa can become infected and arise from the basal layer of epithelium...if i understand it correctly...an expert is free to correct me if they want
http://www.aegis.com/aidsline/1998/apr/m9841466.html


i wonder if these mean increased transmission from oral sex
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186166 tn?1385259382
There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex.  The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way.  Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk".  There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANDSFIELD

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Dr hook said last week that oral sex is LOW RIsk
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186166 tn?1385259382
save your money...here are some quotes from dr hook

FROM THE HIV EXPERTS HERE AT MEDHELP:

"As you know from other posts about oral sex, our stance is that giving or receiving oral sex is not a risk for HIV.  Some others suggest that there is an appreciable risk of HIV from oral sex however, there are no convincing scientific reports which support these statements.  The presence of a burn in your mouth, or a sore, or ingestion of blood does not change this.  Still no risk an no reason for testing."  DR HOOK

"As far as HIV is concerned, there is no known risk of getting HIV from performing oral sex on an infected partner, even if that person's genital secretions get into your eyes or if you swallow"  DR HOOK

There is no debate (among experts) about the HIV risks associated with oral sex.  The risk is so low that almost nobody who cares for HIV infected patients has ever had a patient believed to have been infected that way.  Among experts, it's a semantic issue about using terms like "no risk" and "very low risk".  There is no difference between my or Dr. Hook's use of "low risk" and other experts' "no risk".
DR. HANDSFIELD

"And oral sex is basically safe sex -- completely safe with respect to HIV and although not zero risk for other STDs, the chance of infection is far lower than for unprotected vaginal or anal sex.  Please educate yourself about the real risks.  If you stick with oral sex and condom-protected vaginal or anal sex, you have no HIV worries and very little worry about other STDs. "   DR HANDSFIELD

"I am sure you can find lots of people who belive that HIV is transmitted by oral sex, but you will not find scientific data to support this unrealistic concern..."   DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by touching, masturbation, oral sex or condom protected sex."- DR. HOOK

in the public HIV Prevention forum of MedHelp, TEAK and the other moderators maintain that oral sex in all forms is a zero risk activity. Would you agree with this assessment?  
I TOTALLY AGREE / DR GARCIA

The observation on thousand and thousand of observations is that HIV is not spread by oral sex (of any sort).  DR. HOOK

"With regard to the question you ask, I will repeat, as I’ve said more times than I can think- there are NO credible cases in which persons have acquired HIV through performance of oral sex- none!!.  The chance that you will be the first is ridiculously low.  You are more likely to be hit by lightening while reading my reply to you. DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread by masturbation, through oral sex, through kissing or other casual contact." DR HOOK

"There is no credible evidence that HIV is spread through oral sex, with or without the presence of cuts or blood in the persons mouth."- DR HOOK

"Oral sex. there is no evidence that HIV is spread through giving or receiving oral sex"- DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread through oral sex."  DR HOOK

"HIV is not spread through giving or receiving oral sex"   DR HOOK
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help me please could u give me a link to where i can ask dr hook a question. i want my question answered by him help me please...
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I will come back to you in a couple of hours, for now l have to get my kids dinner. There are a wealth of studies out there, some reliable and some not and others are just old and out dated and newer information has been studied.

I will dig out my research and get back to you. One of the most important studies of recent time has been the one between seron discordant couples, do not discount this it had provided us with some very valuable information on all sexual transmission routes.

Nobody has ever gotten HIV from being blown and unless you have the worst oral hygiene ever I.e meth mouth giving oral sex will not put you at risk
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There have been long-term studies of couples where one is positive and one is negative. In the couples who used condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, but no barrier for oral activities, not one of the negative partners became infected with hiv. Not one. These studies involved hundreds of couples and went on for years. One of the studies went on for ten years.

HIV and saliva
An article from "The Molecules of HIV" (c) Dan Stowell
www.mcld.co.uk/hiv
Occasionally I'm asked about whether HIV is present in an HIV-positive person's saliva, and whether it carries a risk of transmission.
The short answer is that saliva virtually never carries any infectious HIV at all.
It does carry detectable "components" of HIV (such as viral RNA and proviral DNA), but these are not infectious on their own. The environment that saliva provides is far too harsh for infectious particles to remain intact and viable.
There are a number of possible mechanisms that have been suggested, which might explain why saliva seems to be so good at destroying HIV. Specific enzymes present in saliva may be important, or the effect of antibodies in saliva. Additionally, the saliva is "hypotonic" and has a tendency to disrupt any cells which may be floating around in it. It's pretty much certain that it's the combination of these factors that mean HIV is not transmitted in saliva.
It may seem strange that such a dangerous virus can't survive in something as "harmless" as saliva. In fact, saliva is a part of the body's natural defences against infection. Additionally, remember that the HIV virus is actually quite fragile.
More information:
.   Shugars DC, Sweet SP, Malamud D, Kazmi S, Page-Shafer K, Challacombe SJ (2002)
.   Saliva and inhibition of HIV-1 infection: molecular mechanisms.
.   Oral Diseases 8: 169-175 Suppl. 2 2002
.   Baron S, Poast J, Cloyd MW (1999)
.   Why is HIV rarely transmitted by oral secretions? Saliva can disrupt orally shed, infected leukocytes.
Archives of Internal Medicine 159 (3): 303-310

Source:

http://www.mcld.co.uk/hiv/?q=HIV%20and%20saliva

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This study that you have mentioned was done is 2005 and actually says that the results were unclear.

Stop making a drama out of this, HIV is not spread through oral sex. Period.
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186166 tn?1385259382
hiv is not transmitted through oral sex
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look at the last link though it says there are cd4 on the epithelium
imagine if your foreskin touches that infected part of her mouth without saliva...
that what i understand at least
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The other links available on the giben website http://www.aidsmap.com/Transmission-of-HIV-in-oral-sex-cells-lining-mouth-provide-beachhead-for-HIV/page/1415512/ suggest that oral sex is "near zero" risk. Near Zero is a risk calculated theoretically. To the best of our knowledge, nobody contacted the virus through oral sex alone.

However, involving in oral sex is purely a matter of personal choice. If anyone feels it is risky, he may avoid it. Having said that, I am pretty sure that it is not a route for HIV transmission.
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newer one about hiv in the mouth:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16032727
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