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the tip of the penis to rub against the vagina

About 16 days ago, I went to massage and used the tip of the penis to rub against the vagina, then I pushed slightly outside the door but did not penetrate. I worry did i risk with hiv and stds or not. I was afraid of the penis getting in but I didn't know or vaginal fluids stuck to the head of the penis and urethra. Thanks you
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15695260 tn?1549593113
Your question has been answered in full that you most likely did not have a risk and that you tested conclusively at 28 days and beyond with a 4th generation test.

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If I am really at risk, the results on the 30th day will be considered conclusive, because I see many recommendations after 3 months to conclude. Does this result change?
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This was the first advice you revieved "If you didn't penetrate there is n risk. HIV is fragile and can only infect during penetration so no need to test or think about it."

Whenever you take a test it should be conclusive, you didn't have a risk to start with.
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i have test again in day 30th negative, However, there are many recommendations test after 3 months to conclution, so I can rest assured
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20620809 tn?1504362969
You tested negative as expected.  Your test is conclusive and you can officially move on.  Congratulations. Now go buy some condoms and live a good life.
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thank you so muchhh
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If you didn't penetrate there is n risk. HIV is fragile and can only infect during penetration so no need to test or think about it.
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thank for answer me, but now I am so worried. After 17 days I was having a sore throat, I had 3 heat sores last week, now I have lost 2 pounds. Will the virus be spread through the flute or scratch when I rub it? I was afraid my penis would slip into the vagina without my knowledge.
Has anyone been infected in this case yet?
People cough on your lips and door knobs so sore throat at any time is to be expected. It is unrealistic to think that sore throat only happens 17 days after sex. Penetration doesn't happen when you are daydreaming and miss it, so you would have known if you penetrated.
This answers all of your HIV questions, and if you can think of any more just reread about the 3. You had zero risk therefore  testing is irrelevant to your situation because you had zero risk. HIV is a fragile virus, which is instantly inactivated in air and also in saliva which means it is effectively dead so it can't infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. It doesn't matter if you and they were actively bleeding or had cuts at the time either because the HIV is effectively dead.  
Only 3 adult risks are the following:
1. unprotected penetrating vaginal with a penis
2. unprotected penetrating anal sex with a penis
3. sharing needles that you inject with.
The only way to get HIV is if you did one of the 3. The situation you describe is a long way from any of these 3.
Even with blood, lactation, cuts, rashes, burns, etc the air or the saliva does not allow inactivated virus to infect from touching, external rubbing or oral activities. Doctors have calculated the risk from what you describe to be less than that of being hit by a meteor, therefore no one will get HIV from what you did in the next 40 years of your life either. The above HIV science is 40 years old and very well established, so no detail that you can add to your encounter will change it from zero risk.
So if I do not penetrate, there is no risk, I worry because I still have heat and fever in the afternoon about 37.5 degrees C.
and I have a sore throat and mouth sores after about 1 week
No one can diagnose you from here, and HIV doctors can't diagnose from symptoms so you shouldn't continue wasting your time pretending that you can diagnose hiv from symptoms. See doc if you think you have a problem, instead of creating theories about hiv just because it is the only disease you googled. You don't have HIv and this is just an hiv forum.
See your doctor about your non-HIV related symptoms.  No idea what they are, but they have NOTHING to do with HIV since you had zero risk for HIV.
If my penis enters the vagina within a few seconds, I don't know if there's a risk :(
Your story keeps changing. first there was no penetration, but now you say 3 seconds penetration. maybe you need to talk this over with your doc to figure what happened and determine if you

1. should take a duo test after 4 weeks for a conclusive result
OR
2. see a therapist if doc thinks you are overly anxious because your imagination is too active.
I am afraid that my penis come into the vaginal what i don’t know :(
You should talk to your doctor about this so he can help you figure out what you did.
i have test in day 21st with ag/ab combo method and the result: negative, have i been safe ?? I have seen many symptoms such as fever of 37.5 degrees C, pain in my body, drowsiness
You haven't seen any symptoms that prove HIV. You are just guessing HIV because HIV is the only disease that you Googled.
Reread my advice because I already told you that 21 days was too early, so I don't know why you thought testing early would prove something. It didn't prove anything, just like your symptoms don't prove anything - hiv doctors can't diagnose from symptoms so you can't do it either.
if i have a test in exactly day 28th,  Is the result 100% accurate? or I have to wait after 28 days
Reread my advice on Jan 17.
tomorrow is the 28th day since I acted, I was able to test it or not have to wait until the 29th day
Not really sure we need this blow by blow but will tell you that you will most very likely be negative as a one time exposure of unprotected vaginal sex has less than a 2 percent chance of resulting in HIV.  Take your test, get your negative and move on in your life. Buy condoms and use every single time.  
I did it on the 21st day and negative, I wanted to ask if I could do it from the 28th day (27 days and 12 hours) or wait until the 29th day to be accurate. Thanks
You really have been answered---  you can take it the 28th day or the 29th day, it will not make a difference.
thanks you so much.  I feel extremely worried.
today is the 28th day (excatly 27 days and 15 hour), i test ag / ab negative architect combo. Can this result be concluded? many thanks
That question was answered yesterday.
You had no risk and wouldn't accept that, so if you can't accept your test results then you have severe anxiety that is a mental illness and needs the help of a therapist to resolve. You don't have any medical training but so far the only science you believe in is your own science fiction, but hopefully you will now accept the scientific test and move on.
thank you so much :(( i'm so  worry about this action
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