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Hi Everyone, I am so glad to find this site and the support of all the people. It is very informative. I'm sure you are helping people that don't even post and just read the articles. I have the flip flopping and pounding or excenuated heart beat. I am on atenolol..25 mg a day which I was told low dose. I am wondering if the atenolol has made them worse. I tried stopping the atenolol one time and when I got to the day that I didn't have to take one my heart felt like it was going every which way and felt so shakey inside. So I went back on the antenolol. I was taking high doses of herbs and vitamins a few years ago including glucusamine and calcium. It's then that my heart pounding and flipping started. The doc said it was just anxiety but I had been through a round of this a few years prior when I tried taking Ginka Baloba (misspelled for sure)...it sent me to the Cardiologist. My immune system is very weird when it comes to supplements...I even ache all over from them and doctors can't explain why. I am just up in the air about trying to just cut my dose of atenolol maybe in half and take it that way for a longer amount of time then I did about a year ago when I was trying to get off it to see if it helped. I also had a hesterectomy about 3 years ago and started taking hormones and it raised my blood pressure. I came off the hormones and my blood pressure is down but part is probably contributed to taking the atenolol. I know I am rambling...thank you for listening. And I am very curious about the MSG thing.
Hi Everyone, I am so glad to find this site and the support of all the people. It is very informative. I'm sure you are helping people that don't even post and just read the articles. I have the flip flopping and pounding or excenuated heart beat. I am on atenolol..25 mg a day which I was told low dose. I am wondering if the atenolol has made them worse. I tried stopping the atenolol one time and when I got to the day that I didn't have to take one my heart felt like it was going every which way and felt so shakey inside. So I went back on the antenolol. I was taking high doses of herbs and vitamins a few years ago including glucusamine and calcium. It's then that my heart pounding and flipping started. The doc said it was just anxiety but I had been through a round of this a few years prior when I tried taking Ginka Baloba (misspelled for sure)...it sent me to the Cardiologist. My immune system is very weird when it comes to supplements...I even ache all over from them and doctors can't explain why. I am just up in the air about trying to just cut my dose of atenolol maybe in half and take it that way for a longer amount of time then I did about a year ago when I was trying to get off it to see if it helped. I also had a hesterectomy about 3 years ago and started taking hormones and it raised my blood pressure. I came off the hormones and my blood pressure is down but part is probably contributed to taking the atenolol. I know I am rambling...thank you for listening. And I am very curious about the MSG thing.
Thank you all for your input. I really appriciate it. If I feel these weird beats again I will go insist on an event monitor. It comforts me a lot. It's nice to have a place online to talk to other's with similar experiences. Now I can feel a little more secure about my health. Thank you all.
Chris
Chris
Not to beat this point to death, but I must impose one more comment on the MSG thing. I do not consider benign arrythmias to be 'heart disease', therefore, I am not claiming MSG, seaweed or soy to cause heart disease. Seaweed or soy in it's natural form are a healthy addition to anyone's diet, including my own. When the body ingests glutamate at levels significantly higher than other amino acids (ie proteins), the glutamate will be absorbed and the others not so greatly.
Glutamate is a cellular irritant, studied particularly in the nervous system. It is well documented in the nutritional literature to contribute to arrythmias in some people. The incomplete list of ingredients in my previous post are converted by the body to glutamate after ingestion.
Eliminating these has changed my life, I mearly humbly share my experience for others.
Good luck to you all, and thanks for this forum.
Glutamate is a cellular irritant, studied particularly in the nervous system. It is well documented in the nutritional literature to contribute to arrythmias in some people. The incomplete list of ingredients in my previous post are converted by the body to glutamate after ingestion.
Eliminating these has changed my life, I mearly humbly share my experience for others.
Good luck to you all, and thanks for this forum.
You sound like you're experiencing a very common arrhythmia, often refered to as a PAC or PVC. These things are caused by islands of electrical cardiac tissue usually located in a part of the heart where only structural tissue is needed. They result in premature beats...ie, you may feel your heart skip a beat (actually it's very faint, so you don't normally notice it) followed by a make up beat (which will feel pronounced). These things occur in everyone from time to time, because we all have those little islands. For some folks these islands can be quite active and may involve alternate pathways in the heart which lead to significant arrhythmias.
You have described the kind of arrhythmia that is typically produced following exercise (adrenaline-related). Again, often these islands respond to increased adrenaline and fire off signals more intensely for a while. I would suggest seeking out an educated opinion from a cardiologist or EP to make sure nothing else is going on...but from my experience (which is similar to yours), it sounds like a relatively benign problem.
Why they showed up now is a subject for debate, but it's likely that the "islands" were always there, but with age and exercise, your heart muscle has expanded and spaces between cells have most likely created a channel through which the electrical noise they generate could travel. Another factor which controls how well this noise travels is the state of your nervous system...it is responsible, in part, for regulating how quickly cardiac signals travel through cardiac tissue...so if your autonomic nervous system is charged up (like after exercise), it's once again likely that the electronic freeway is opened for business.
I am no expert, just someone with PACs, who has gotten over it and leads a normal life (playing soccer at age 56). Watch out that you don't develop an OCD about this thing...it will consume you. Just get the facts from the doc and address the issue logically.
Good Luck!
-Arthur
You have described the kind of arrhythmia that is typically produced following exercise (adrenaline-related). Again, often these islands respond to increased adrenaline and fire off signals more intensely for a while. I would suggest seeking out an educated opinion from a cardiologist or EP to make sure nothing else is going on...but from my experience (which is similar to yours), it sounds like a relatively benign problem.
Why they showed up now is a subject for debate, but it's likely that the "islands" were always there, but with age and exercise, your heart muscle has expanded and spaces between cells have most likely created a channel through which the electrical noise they generate could travel. Another factor which controls how well this noise travels is the state of your nervous system...it is responsible, in part, for regulating how quickly cardiac signals travel through cardiac tissue...so if your autonomic nervous system is charged up (like after exercise), it's once again likely that the electronic freeway is opened for business.
I am no expert, just someone with PACs, who has gotten over it and leads a normal life (playing soccer at age 56). Watch out that you don't develop an OCD about this thing...it will consume you. Just get the facts from the doc and address the issue logically.
Good Luck!
-Arthur
>>Can anyone tell me what I could be experiencing? and if it is serious? Thank you so much<<
It sounds like an arrhythmia and it probably isn't serious because most of them aren't BUT that isn't a diagnosis! No one -- including your doctor - can make an accurate diagnosis ( only an informed guess) without seeing these heartbeats that are bothering you on an EKG... you need to be assertive and insist on an event monitor. You will wear this pager sized device hooked to a couple of small electrodes on your chest while you exercise and afterwards, all the time except when bathing, and push a little button when you feel the weird heartbeats. That will record that part , and the beats before and after it occured will be stored, too.. you send it in over the phone. THAT's how to find out for sure. Otherwise, bud, you are just guessing.. why do that? Just INSIST you need to get to the bottom of these palps.
It sounds like an arrhythmia and it probably isn't serious because most of them aren't BUT that isn't a diagnosis! No one -- including your doctor - can make an accurate diagnosis ( only an informed guess) without seeing these heartbeats that are bothering you on an EKG... you need to be assertive and insist on an event monitor. You will wear this pager sized device hooked to a couple of small electrodes on your chest while you exercise and afterwards, all the time except when bathing, and push a little button when you feel the weird heartbeats. That will record that part , and the beats before and after it occured will be stored, too.. you send it in over the phone. THAT's how to find out for sure. Otherwise, bud, you are just guessing.. why do that? Just INSIST you need to get to the bottom of these palps.
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