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Extra Heartbeats
My question is rather long so I will try and shorten it. I am a 28 year old male that is very active in weightlifting and softball. I have been diagnosed with PVC's about three years ago. I was originally diagnosed with MVP when I was 19 but after a second opinion, the PVC diagnosis was presented. I have worn several Holter monitors, EKG, and an ECG. They were always negative. After a few years of this my doc finally got some extra beats on a holter. I have pestered my doctor over the years because he keeps telling me there is nothing to worry about. Finally he decided to try some medication on me around two years ago (Tambacor 150 mg twice a day) It has not really helped all that much but the doc says that is all he can do. I have altered my life in alot of ways and one being I don't run like I used to. There are times when I have run the bases in softball and when I come back to the dugout my heart is racing of course but the beats are very irregular. It feels as if it is totally out of sync. I feel nauseous but never pass out. It always goes away after a few minutes but if I had to run again while it was beating like that would be out of the question. This occurs quite often with exercise and it is really scaring me. Please help. Why is this happening?
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To Hankstar... Thanks for the encouragement... I see your name on quite a few postings... sounds like you are as obsessed as I am! I feel a lot better about my situation after reading all the comments from others who suffer like us... This is really a great site!! Good luck to everyone who has these annoying pvc's... as for my anxiety I am finally going to see a psychologist to see if I can finally learn to relax about it... if it works I'll post again!
Hi Jimmyb,
I read your post regarding the anxiety of having this happen to you. It sounds like you constantly have this on your mind....and that is most of your problem. I suffer from anxiety on occassion and have learned to deal with it to the best of my ability...but sometimes it gets the best of me. My best friend just had a heart attack at 44 yrs. old. She weighs about 110 lbs., has a total cholesterol of 123, HDL of 47. No family history of heart disease. She smokes and drinks lots of caffeine. So I could look at her and say if this can happen to her what about me, especially when I experience skipped beats and rapid heart rate at times.
When I talked with my friend about her heart attack we questioned the why and how it could have happened to her...which I found helped me tremendously because here she had the H/A out of the blue with never a problem or thought of it and I have experienced stress and all it's wonderful symptoms related to heart over the years and we came up with the fact that life just goes on, no matter what happens to anyone...that we should take each day as it comes and accept it....What all of us fail to realize is that we could be in a car accident, get hit by a car while we are walking...have a heart attack or a multitude of other illnesses....we just don't know when or if it will ever happen. Since life just goes on I came to the conclusion that I don't want to always be worrying about this. It is making my life right now miserable..and will continue to do so as long as I let it....we have a choice....to be and think positive as much as we can, eat healthy, get as much exercise as we can. I have suffered on and off with anxiety and panic attacks off an on for 23 years. I consider myself a much stronger person for it. I am sensitive, sometimes to a fault...that is our drawback...sensitive, kind, and overly considerate people who think way too much.....mostly negative because it scares us...I hope I don't sound preachy...I know it is hard, but I know it can be done because I've been there, have helped my daughter through it and only wish the best for anyone. So...if you have seen a doctor and they say everything is okay learn to accept it and go on with your life because the added stress of worry will be detrimental in the long run...My best of luck to you.
I read your post regarding the anxiety of having this happen to you. It sounds like you constantly have this on your mind....and that is most of your problem. I suffer from anxiety on occassion and have learned to deal with it to the best of my ability...but sometimes it gets the best of me. My best friend just had a heart attack at 44 yrs. old. She weighs about 110 lbs., has a total cholesterol of 123, HDL of 47. No family history of heart disease. She smokes and drinks lots of caffeine. So I could look at her and say if this can happen to her what about me, especially when I experience skipped beats and rapid heart rate at times.
When I talked with my friend about her heart attack we questioned the why and how it could have happened to her...which I found helped me tremendously because here she had the H/A out of the blue with never a problem or thought of it and I have experienced stress and all it's wonderful symptoms related to heart over the years and we came up with the fact that life just goes on, no matter what happens to anyone...that we should take each day as it comes and accept it....What all of us fail to realize is that we could be in a car accident, get hit by a car while we are walking...have a heart attack or a multitude of other illnesses....we just don't know when or if it will ever happen. Since life just goes on I came to the conclusion that I don't want to always be worrying about this. It is making my life right now miserable..and will continue to do so as long as I let it....we have a choice....to be and think positive as much as we can, eat healthy, get as much exercise as we can. I have suffered on and off with anxiety and panic attacks off an on for 23 years. I consider myself a much stronger person for it. I am sensitive, sometimes to a fault...that is our drawback...sensitive, kind, and overly considerate people who think way too much.....mostly negative because it scares us...I hope I don't sound preachy...I know it is hard, but I know it can be done because I've been there, have helped my daughter through it and only wish the best for anyone. So...if you have seen a doctor and they say everything is okay learn to accept it and go on with your life because the added stress of worry will be detrimental in the long run...My best of luck to you.
I am a 45 year old man in excellent health except for chronic PAT's or PVC's since I was about 12. I also experience PSVT once in a long while which is a very scary experience. I am writing this at two in the morning because I can't sleep because of extra beats. I am prone to anxiety and I wonder if someone can make any suggestions as how to not let this take over my life! I have had every test in the book, and have always been pronounced perfectly healthy, but I still think I am doomed! It doesn't help that the doctors who write about irregular heartbeats always say "it is USUALLY not fatal"... well, when is usually, and when isn't? Any comments will be appreciated, and I feel for anyone living with irregular beats, but it could be worse! Jimmyb
Could you please post the reference for the article? That is, what journal, what pages, year, etc?
That is interesting . hmmm the whole chaos theory.
Very interesting if you ever find the article post it.
Thanks Dave
and for those that want reassurance about beats etc.
or want to chat email me at ***@****
some people have and they are very nice
Davea
Very interesting if you ever find the article post it.
Thanks Dave
and for those that want reassurance about beats etc.
or want to chat email me at ***@****
some people have and they are very nice
Davea
Your post reminded me of an article I read once that mentioned this as well. It said that a steady beat without any changes in pattern raised a flag more so than a few funky beats now and then. I read this over 15 years ago. Interesting
Devea, have you tried this phenalbar-whatever?? If so, why do you still get so many pvc's in a day? or was that before you tried it?? Just curious.
I also wanted to respond to the long distance runner. I too am a long distance runner and have even run in marathons. I used to compete in High School and College until my PVC's started up in college. I've experienced PVC's now for about 12 years and they drive me crazy too. It's good to hear that other long distance runners have this problem. I run with a running group and no one else experiences these things. I too have considered giving up the running to see if it would help, but I love my running. It would be hard to do. Do you experience these while running? I do, and I must say, that is when they scare me the most. During my marathon I had probably 4 to 5 episodes and it was so scary. I too have been told my doctors that they are benign, but it doesn't stop the scary feeling when they occur. I just wish they could find a cure!!
I also wanted to respond to the long distance runner. I too am a long distance runner and have even run in marathons. I used to compete in High School and College until my PVC's started up in college. I've experienced PVC's now for about 12 years and they drive me crazy too. It's good to hear that other long distance runners have this problem. I run with a running group and no one else experiences these things. I too have considered giving up the running to see if it would help, but I love my running. It would be hard to do. Do you experience these while running? I do, and I must say, that is when they scare me the most. During my marathon I had probably 4 to 5 episodes and it was so scary. I too have been told my doctors that they are benign, but it doesn't stop the scary feeling when they occur. I just wish they could find a cure!!
Mine come and go , I would like to avoid the phenobarbital
but a i WAS addressing those people who seemed to have "beats"
for years and every day. Mine cycle away after I forget about them.
I just want people to know , that it is not a big deal , running
can cause post beats , my thinking is this.
1. avoid all acidic food and meds, aspirin etc.
2 Try Pepcid AC before your run
3. Eat light and well
4. Beats after running is no big deal
5. Beta blockers are not reliable and I would argue usually
will not control beats very well. Now there are exceptions.
And allot of PVC's dissapear when you forget about them.
In my experience. I was saying if you have had it phenobarbital will work over time to stop beats. It is the magic bullet for those who have chronic years of beats and are fed up.
but a i WAS addressing those people who seemed to have "beats"
for years and every day. Mine cycle away after I forget about them.
I just want people to know , that it is not a big deal , running
can cause post beats , my thinking is this.
1. avoid all acidic food and meds, aspirin etc.
2 Try Pepcid AC before your run
3. Eat light and well
4. Beats after running is no big deal
5. Beta blockers are not reliable and I would argue usually
will not control beats very well. Now there are exceptions.
And allot of PVC's dissapear when you forget about them.
In my experience. I was saying if you have had it phenobarbital will work over time to stop beats. It is the magic bullet for those who have chronic years of beats and are fed up.
I am a 50 year old Male who has been suffering daily PVCs for the past 5 years. I have been visiting Websites for the past couple of years, and have tried every suggestion I have read about, no chocolate, no coffee, no alcohol etc. You name it and I have tried it with absolutely no improvement. Then a couple of months ago I read a letter form a guy (sorry, can't remember the name) who said that he had some luck with Potassium tablets. To make a long story short, I prefer not to take tablets so I tried the next best source of Potassium - BANANAS. I started eating 2 Bananas a day and the improvement was dramatic, not one PVC in the last 2 months ! I just had to share this news with all my fellow sufferers. It may just be a co-incidence, it may be psycho-somatic, I don't really know, but if just one fellow suffer is helped by this information it would be great. And let's face it you've nothing to lose, there's nothing healthier than eating fruit on a regular basis. Good Luck to you all.
Relax everybody , I have had 1800 beats per day or more sometimes
it is nothing. It is partially my fault. Many things cause the beat reflex. Stress , hormonal changes , etc. My advice to all you to make them go away and I have for long periods , years at a time/ Avoid spicy foods and don't over eat. Be nice to your digestive system. Take Pepcid AC and see how that helps some of you. The beta blockers are generally a waste of time. I would recommend getting more sleep if possible. A massage. stress reducers. Post stress syndrome is a part of it. Eat bland and light. And relax , the beats are nothing they will go away , look at me , no body has more beats than me that I've read about
it is nothing. It is partially my fault. Many things cause the beat reflex. Stress , hormonal changes , etc. My advice to all you to make them go away and I have for long periods , years at a time/ Avoid spicy foods and don't over eat. Be nice to your digestive system. Take Pepcid AC and see how that helps some of you. The beta blockers are generally a waste of time. I would recommend getting more sleep if possible. A massage. stress reducers. Post stress syndrome is a part of it. Eat bland and light. And relax , the beats are nothing they will go away , look at me , no body has more beats than me that I've read about
My AVR was done at CCF 4/11/00. In October, after completing 36 seesions of Phase II cardiac rehab and a cessation of Accupril to clear up coughing and low energy levels, phlegm buildup, my PACs (?) began. Is it possible that Accupril was eliminating my PACs? I had none at all during the entire 6 months following surgery. OR is the hear remodeling and causing them? My first annual checkup at CCF is scheduled for May 18.
And last week I had a CBC result and my Eosinophile count is elevated beyond normal (7.4%)as is my RDW (12.2%)I had a severe 2-3 week head cold, sinus infection and a bit of fever (24 hours),101.9 and a regimen of Z-pak antibiotics ten days after the onset and three weeks earlier than my blood test.
Is it possible that the Eo count could be elevated because of the implanted Bovine Pericardial valve or the antibiotics, or an allergic reaction to the valve by the body which I understand an elevated Eo count can indicate (allergies)?
And last week I had a CBC result and my Eosinophile count is elevated beyond normal (7.4%)as is my RDW (12.2%)I had a severe 2-3 week head cold, sinus infection and a bit of fever (24 hours),101.9 and a regimen of Z-pak antibiotics ten days after the onset and three weeks earlier than my blood test.
Is it possible that the Eo count could be elevated because of the implanted Bovine Pericardial valve or the antibiotics, or an allergic reaction to the valve by the body which I understand an elevated Eo count can indicate (allergies)?
The doctor will not answer your questions in the comment section. You would need to be lucky enough to post the question when they are accepted to receive a response. sorry
Baked Potatoes and The Skins are also a good source of Potassium.
OH YES IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT MYSTERY DRUG DOES STOP MOST
PVC'S It's phenobarbitol ( spelling) yes I'm a research chemist
and yes it will work and good luck getting it from your doctor/
and no valium and buspar etc, will not be effective.
There you are cured send me a gift ***@****
I first try just to forget about the sometimes 2000 pvc's I get
a day.But if you have had them for years , just try your best to get phenobarbitol 10 mg 3 x daily. It does not make you tired . surprisingly. and relax, look at me I have 6 pvc's a minute sometimes , all day woop de doo
PVC'S It's phenobarbitol ( spelling) yes I'm a research chemist
and yes it will work and good luck getting it from your doctor/
and no valium and buspar etc, will not be effective.
There you are cured send me a gift ***@****
I first try just to forget about the sometimes 2000 pvc's I get
a day.But if you have had them for years , just try your best to get phenobarbitol 10 mg 3 x daily. It does not make you tired . surprisingly. and relax, look at me I have 6 pvc's a minute sometimes , all day woop de doo
Billy boy,
Your report from the doctor doesn't sound like anything to worry about, but I know it is easier said than done.
Your report from the doctor doesn't sound like anything to worry about, but I know it is easier said than done.
I was a long distance runner, 45 miles per week. I also suffered from PVC's and PAC's. Some days it would be around 200 or 300 hundred, always the most within 3 hours after my run. I had a ham string injury 3 months ago and had to totally stop running. Well, now I get a couple pvc's a week and that is all. So what is worse? Should I give up what I love and get fat, or run again when my leg is completely healed and suffer PVC's that drive me crazy. I know they are suppose to be harmless is a normal heart but they drive you crazy.
I just got my Holter Monitor results back. I had 400 pac's, which my doctor is not concerned about. I had 4 dropped beats and 122 late beats. Do any of you know what this means. He said nothing, but I am scared to death. He says I am healthy.
I had this test done due to Bradycardia, which he says is healthy in me since I am a healthy 31 year old male. I also was having pauses, are theses the dropped/late beats.. Do I need a pacemaker...Please help me....I am horrified....Billyboy..
I had this test done due to Bradycardia, which he says is healthy in me since I am a healthy 31 year old male. I also was having pauses, are theses the dropped/late beats.. Do I need a pacemaker...Please help me....I am horrified....Billyboy..
I barely drink alcohol (3x per month) I do not drink coffee or pop because the doc advised me to eliminate caffeine from my diet. This doesn't really change things. It is extremely frustrating. By the way, I also take a magnesium, potassium, selenium supplement in case I am deficient in these minerals. The result is the same. No relief.
I have had PVC's since 1993 or so...I'm 39 and lift weights 4-5 days a week quite intensely, as well as run and mountain bike. Although I still get the extra hard beats once in a while, they have almost completely disappeared since I completely stopped drinking alcohol. Also, as my fitness improved, they seemed to come around less often. Now I may get one or two a day...A few more if I am exercising intensely...
I ALSO HAVE ADNORMAL HEART BEATS AND ALSO SHORTNESS OF BREATHS SOMETIMES WITH A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT HEADNESS COULD THIS MEAN ANYTHIHNG FATAL
I am not sure what is happening. However, since most of your symptoms appear with physical exercise, an EKG or Holter at rest might not catch your symptoms. It may be best to do an exercise stress test on you to see what your heart does with exercise in a monitored setting. This may provide an answer.
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