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My daughter is 27, she has been suffering from headaches for a year. We have all tests regarding the brain and nothing has shown up. We just had an echocardiogram and it showed mild PFO. Does the PFO cause the migraines and what should we do to control the headaches. She has these headaches every day
Hi PFO's are one possible cause of migraines with aura. Everyone has a PFO when born -most people it closes at birth but sometimes it heals over slowly by adolescence. 25% of the general population has a PFO anyway. If it is large then it creates the risk of stroke as well as probaly migraines. Recent onset headaches are unlikely to be related to the PFO - those of us who get migraines from PFO's have always had them. There is stacks of research from around the world about PFO's and migraines -originating from the observation that when scuba divers had a 'bend' and asked if they got migraines, they were usually found to have a PFO. Closing it to enable them to dive again(like me but didn't quite work out like that!) suggested that the process also helped or stopped their migraine. this is actually disputed as to whether it is clinically significant however. Look up the work of Dr Peter Wilmshurst from the Royal shrewsbury hospital in UK. You will also find his name crops up a lot to do with a legal fight against a big US medical company -which he won -because he disputed the studies into this very subject and guess what...the company were the manufacturers of the closure device. Here's one of his powerpoint presentations. http://www.advancedecho.co.uk/The%20PFO%20story.pdf
Currently none of the Migraine centres in the UK support closure of PFO's as a first line treatment for migraine.
Just a thought -You use the terms headache and migraine interchangably - clear diagnosis is really important before it is assummed - esp given the info discussed in Michelles article - which reiterates what most of us migraine sufferes know -No one thing cures it!!!
Lesley
Currently none of the Migraine centres in the UK support closure of PFO's as a first line treatment for migraine.
Just a thought -You use the terms headache and migraine interchangably - clear diagnosis is really important before it is assummed - esp given the info discussed in Michelles article - which reiterates what most of us migraine sufferes know -No one thing cures it!!!
Lesley
Great information Michelle!!
Vicky121,
Welcome to the Heart Forum! We're glad you found us, and hope we can help. : )
Ironically, I am scheduled to have an echocardiogram with a bubble test to determine if I have a PFO. I am shocked that this would not have been discovered given the number of previous echos and other tests that I have had. The doctor said, it is not likley to be found unless they are specifically looking for it.....
Anyway, the test was scheduled because I had a very temporary, partial loss of vision in one eye. I went to the eye doctor and the exams came up fine, but I was told to follow up with my cardio. I have a history of opthalmic migraines (auras, but no headaches) and I keep reading about a connection. The articles that Michelle passed along seem to indicate a correlation between the two. Has your daughter's doctor mentioned a connection? Does she have the aura?
Connie
Vicky121,
Welcome to the Heart Forum! We're glad you found us, and hope we can help. : )
Ironically, I am scheduled to have an echocardiogram with a bubble test to determine if I have a PFO. I am shocked that this would not have been discovered given the number of previous echos and other tests that I have had. The doctor said, it is not likley to be found unless they are specifically looking for it.....
Anyway, the test was scheduled because I had a very temporary, partial loss of vision in one eye. I went to the eye doctor and the exams came up fine, but I was told to follow up with my cardio. I have a history of opthalmic migraines (auras, but no headaches) and I keep reading about a connection. The articles that Michelle passed along seem to indicate a correlation between the two. Has your daughter's doctor mentioned a connection? Does she have the aura?
Connie
I have a PFO (patent Foreamen Ovale) and I am not sure how big it is, I was told right before I went into surgery for my foot that I have it.
My 4 year old son has had it since the day he was born he was a little large not bad they stitch part of it shut but left a VERY VERY tiny part open. neither one of us have headaches (he doesn't complain about them)
now this is something. I just googled this next part. I typed in for the heck of it PFO and headaches and here is what I found
Does the percutaneous closure of patent foramen ovale help the migraine sufferer?
Pranathi Kondapaneni, MD MPH
Patient Page
Top.
Patient Page
ABOUT MIGRAINE
References
What is a migraine? A migraine is a chronic episodic headache condition associated with other symptoms such as nausea/vomiting and sound/light sensitivity. Migraines can be classified into two types: with aura and without aura. An aura is a neurological warning symptom that precedes the headache. More information about migraine headache can be found on the next page.
What is a patent foramen ovale (PFO)? The heart’s right side receives blood that does not contain much oxygen and pumps the blood into the lungs to get oxygen. Then the blood goes through the heart’s left side to get to the brain and other organs of the body. A patent foramen ovale (PFO) is a persistent hole in the heart’s right/left wall boundary that did not close after birth. This opening can cause blood in the right side of the heart to move into the left side of the heart before it has had a chance to get oxygen from the lungs. When this happens, the rest of the body does not get as much oxygen as it should. It is possible that blood clots can pass through this hole and lead to stroke.
How is a PFO related to migraine? Research has shown that patients who have a PFO also have migraine more often than people without a PFO. Why might this be? It is possible that blood without enough oxygen may trigger a migraine when it reaches the brain. In this issue of Neurology,two groups of researchers from Belgium and Switzerland studied whether percutaneous closure (closing the PFO by a technique that does not require a major surgical procedure) would lead to fewer migraines.
The Belgian group gave a questionnaire about migraines to people after they had the PFO closure.1 The Swiss group gave a questionnaire assessing the headache frequency and characteristics for the year before and after the PFO closure.2 There was no appreciable affect on the non-migraine headache patients. In both studies, the PFO closure was done because doctors suspected that a blood clot passing through the PFO might have caused a stroke. The frequency of migraine was decreased in both studies after PFO closure. Only the Swiss study evaluated both migraine and non-migraine headaches. More information about the effectiveness of PFO closure and headaches from these two studies can be found in the table.
What do these studies mean? These studies add to the growing body of evidence that there is an association between a PFO and migraine. First, the number of people who had migraine with aura in both studies was higher than in the general population. Second, PFO closure was associated with reduction of migraine symptoms in patients having migraine both with and without aura. Third, in the second study, non-migraine headaches were not affected by PFO closure.
These studies are important in that they hold a clue to a potentially correctable trigger of migraine. However, they do not support PFO closure as a treatment for migraine because of two major limitations: (1) the studies were retrospective (they asked patients for information about their headaches that occurred in the past); and (2) they studied only stroke patients. To get better results, a study is needed that evaluates otherwise healthy migraine patients and collects information in real time (prospectively).
Currently, the treatment standard for migraine includes medications and lifestyle modification. However, more research may help uncover some of the mechanisms behind the migraine and yield future remedies.
ABOUT MIGRAINE
Top.
Patient Page
ABOUT MIGRAINE
References
What is a migraine headache? A migraine is a recurring, throbbing headache. It usually occurs on one side of the head. While it is much more common in young women, it can strike anyone, at any age. It often runs in families.
What causes migraine? The exact cause of migraine is unknown. During an attack, changes in brain activity may cause blood vessels and nerves around the brain to become inflamed. Many women have attacks linked to their menstrual cycles.
What are the symptoms of migraine headache? People with migraines may have very different symptoms, which can include:
* Moderate to severe headache that lasts 4 to 72 hours
* Throbbing pain, often on one side of the head
* Increased pain after exercise or movement
* Sensitivity to bright light, sound, or odors
* Nausea or vomiting with the headache
One in five people with migraine have a warning before the headache. This is called an aura. You may see flashing lights, temporarily lose your sight, or go numb on one side of your body.
How is migraine diagnosed? No medical test can tell you if you have migraine. You will need to provide details about your headache to your neurologist. Your doctor will also do a neurological exam. Often, no further testing is needed.
How is migraine treated? Although there is no cure, migraine is treatable with medications, stress management techniques and a healthy lifestyle. Most people with migraine can find relief using some of the treatment approaches described below. Talk to your doctor about which treatment is best for you. Keeping a headache diary is a valuable tool for treating migraine. It will help you work with your neurologist to identify triggers and track how medical and nonmedical interventions are working.
What are some of the things I can do other than taking medicine to treat my migraine? There are many ways to reduce the impact migraine has on your life.
Know and avoid your migraine triggers, which may include:
* Diet:Missed meals, alcohol (especially red wine), foods with monosodium glutamate (MSG), excessive caffeine, and meats preserved with nitrates and nitrites
* Sleep:Too much or too little sleep
* Stress: Stress and release from stress
* Environmental factors: Weather change, glaring or fluorescent lights, strong odors, and high altitude
Research has shown that some cognitive and behavioral treatments can help prevent migraine:
* Relaxation training
* Thermal biofeedback with relaxation training
* Electromyographic biofeedback
* Cognitive-behavioral therapy (also called stress-management training)
Medicines to treat the headache right after it has started Acute, or immediate, treatments are used to stop an attack when it occurs or to treat its symptoms. These are listed below. Overuse of acute drugs can lead to a daily migraine-like headache, called a rebound headache.
* Nonprescription (over-the-counter) medications, such as aspirin, ibuprofen or acetaminophen combined with aspirin and caffeine
* Prescription nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and analgesics
* Specific drugs used to stop migraine attacks such as triptans and ergot alkaloids
Medicines to prevent migraine Daily preventive medications are available for people with frequent, debilitating headaches:
* Antidepressants
* ß-Blockers
* Calcium channel blockers
* Medicines also used to treat epilepsy
* Alternative treatments such as vitamin B2, magnesium, and feverfew
For more information American Academy of Neurology
Sorry I can not copy images, but I thought this was interesting
good luck
Michelle
My 4 year old son has had it since the day he was born he was a little large not bad they stitch part of it shut but left a VERY VERY tiny part open. neither one of us have headaches (he doesn't complain about them)
now this is something. I just googled this next part. I typed in for the heck of it PFO and headaches and here is what I found
Does the percutaneous closure of patent foramen ovale help the migraine sufferer?
Pranathi Kondapaneni, MD MPH
Patient Page
Top.
Patient Page
ABOUT MIGRAINE
References
What is a migraine? A migraine is a chronic episodic headache condition associated with other symptoms such as nausea/vomiting and sound/light sensitivity. Migraines can be classified into two types: with aura and without aura. An aura is a neurological warning symptom that precedes the headache. More information about migraine headache can be found on the next page.
What is a patent foramen ovale (PFO)? The heart’s right side receives blood that does not contain much oxygen and pumps the blood into the lungs to get oxygen. Then the blood goes through the heart’s left side to get to the brain and other organs of the body. A patent foramen ovale (PFO) is a persistent hole in the heart’s right/left wall boundary that did not close after birth. This opening can cause blood in the right side of the heart to move into the left side of the heart before it has had a chance to get oxygen from the lungs. When this happens, the rest of the body does not get as much oxygen as it should. It is possible that blood clots can pass through this hole and lead to stroke.
How is a PFO related to migraine? Research has shown that patients who have a PFO also have migraine more often than people without a PFO. Why might this be? It is possible that blood without enough oxygen may trigger a migraine when it reaches the brain. In this issue of Neurology,two groups of researchers from Belgium and Switzerland studied whether percutaneous closure (closing the PFO by a technique that does not require a major surgical procedure) would lead to fewer migraines.
The Belgian group gave a questionnaire about migraines to people after they had the PFO closure.1 The Swiss group gave a questionnaire assessing the headache frequency and characteristics for the year before and after the PFO closure.2 There was no appreciable affect on the non-migraine headache patients. In both studies, the PFO closure was done because doctors suspected that a blood clot passing through the PFO might have caused a stroke. The frequency of migraine was decreased in both studies after PFO closure. Only the Swiss study evaluated both migraine and non-migraine headaches. More information about the effectiveness of PFO closure and headaches from these two studies can be found in the table.
What do these studies mean? These studies add to the growing body of evidence that there is an association between a PFO and migraine. First, the number of people who had migraine with aura in both studies was higher than in the general population. Second, PFO closure was associated with reduction of migraine symptoms in patients having migraine both with and without aura. Third, in the second study, non-migraine headaches were not affected by PFO closure.
These studies are important in that they hold a clue to a potentially correctable trigger of migraine. However, they do not support PFO closure as a treatment for migraine because of two major limitations: (1) the studies were retrospective (they asked patients for information about their headaches that occurred in the past); and (2) they studied only stroke patients. To get better results, a study is needed that evaluates otherwise healthy migraine patients and collects information in real time (prospectively).
Currently, the treatment standard for migraine includes medications and lifestyle modification. However, more research may help uncover some of the mechanisms behind the migraine and yield future remedies.
ABOUT MIGRAINE
Top.
Patient Page
ABOUT MIGRAINE
References
What is a migraine headache? A migraine is a recurring, throbbing headache. It usually occurs on one side of the head. While it is much more common in young women, it can strike anyone, at any age. It often runs in families.
What causes migraine? The exact cause of migraine is unknown. During an attack, changes in brain activity may cause blood vessels and nerves around the brain to become inflamed. Many women have attacks linked to their menstrual cycles.
What are the symptoms of migraine headache? People with migraines may have very different symptoms, which can include:
* Moderate to severe headache that lasts 4 to 72 hours
* Throbbing pain, often on one side of the head
* Increased pain after exercise or movement
* Sensitivity to bright light, sound, or odors
* Nausea or vomiting with the headache
One in five people with migraine have a warning before the headache. This is called an aura. You may see flashing lights, temporarily lose your sight, or go numb on one side of your body.
How is migraine diagnosed? No medical test can tell you if you have migraine. You will need to provide details about your headache to your neurologist. Your doctor will also do a neurological exam. Often, no further testing is needed.
How is migraine treated? Although there is no cure, migraine is treatable with medications, stress management techniques and a healthy lifestyle. Most people with migraine can find relief using some of the treatment approaches described below. Talk to your doctor about which treatment is best for you. Keeping a headache diary is a valuable tool for treating migraine. It will help you work with your neurologist to identify triggers and track how medical and nonmedical interventions are working.
What are some of the things I can do other than taking medicine to treat my migraine? There are many ways to reduce the impact migraine has on your life.
Know and avoid your migraine triggers, which may include:
* Diet:Missed meals, alcohol (especially red wine), foods with monosodium glutamate (MSG), excessive caffeine, and meats preserved with nitrates and nitrites
* Sleep:Too much or too little sleep
* Stress: Stress and release from stress
* Environmental factors: Weather change, glaring or fluorescent lights, strong odors, and high altitude
Research has shown that some cognitive and behavioral treatments can help prevent migraine:
* Relaxation training
* Thermal biofeedback with relaxation training
* Electromyographic biofeedback
* Cognitive-behavioral therapy (also called stress-management training)
Medicines to treat the headache right after it has started Acute, or immediate, treatments are used to stop an attack when it occurs or to treat its symptoms. These are listed below. Overuse of acute drugs can lead to a daily migraine-like headache, called a rebound headache.
* Nonprescription (over-the-counter) medications, such as aspirin, ibuprofen or acetaminophen combined with aspirin and caffeine
* Prescription nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs and analgesics
* Specific drugs used to stop migraine attacks such as triptans and ergot alkaloids
Medicines to prevent migraine Daily preventive medications are available for people with frequent, debilitating headaches:
* Antidepressants
* ß-Blockers
* Calcium channel blockers
* Medicines also used to treat epilepsy
* Alternative treatments such as vitamin B2, magnesium, and feverfew
For more information American Academy of Neurology
Sorry I can not copy images, but I thought this was interesting
good luck
Michelle
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