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I am 35 and three weeks ago I began having PVCs while lifting weights. I run too, but I don't suffer from any irregularities when doing that. It seems that the higher the heart rate the lower the occurance. I had a stress echo a week ago and everything was normal and that's when they diagnosed that I am having PVCs. I was wondering these three things. First, what could cause this situation from happening out of the blue? Second, could it go away just as quickly as it came? Last, is there any other tests that you would recommend to make sure that there is no problem with my heart? Thank you.
The only times I experience pvcs, other than when exercising, is when I get up from resting, sleeping or maybe go up a flight of stairs too quickly. With these it doesn't even happen all of the time. Even with the exercise it's basically when I lift weights. When I run there's no problem.
As far as suppliments, other than glutamine, I only take a multi and baby aspirin with vitamine e. I read that that is good for helping keep arteries clear. I tend to eat low carb for the most part. I have a major weakness for sweets though so that kinda kills the whole concept behind it. Luckly, I'm active enough that I don't gain weight. I don't experience any more pvcs with carbs if that was what you were getting at with the question. A lot of alcohol sends it through the roof. Curious to hear if you've experienced this.
Bill
As far as suppliments, other than glutamine, I only take a multi and baby aspirin with vitamine e. I read that that is good for helping keep arteries clear. I tend to eat low carb for the most part. I have a major weakness for sweets though so that kinda kills the whole concept behind it. Luckly, I'm active enough that I don't gain weight. I don't experience any more pvcs with carbs if that was what you were getting at with the question. A lot of alcohol sends it through the roof. Curious to hear if you've experienced this.
Bill
Thanks for the comment.
Curious to know if you have experienced them at any other non-exercising times...i.e. maybe a stressful situation, maybe something you ate, etc. For me, having them before and after exercise is pretty sure bet but as for the other times, still very unpredictable.
Are you taking any special supplements? What do you think about the low carb option?
Anyway, that's all for now.
Rob
Curious to know if you have experienced them at any other non-exercising times...i.e. maybe a stressful situation, maybe something you ate, etc. For me, having them before and after exercise is pretty sure bet but as for the other times, still very unpredictable.
Are you taking any special supplements? What do you think about the low carb option?
Anyway, that's all for now.
Rob
This message is directed toward cwadb..
You had mentioned that you had experienced PVC's in the general range of 110-115 during exercising. As I run quite a bit, I have noted the same thing. I seem to feel it during the warm up process and then during the cool down period. I find the same when playing basketball.
Although this "phenomenom" has been pretty consistent for the past year or so, I did do some cardio work on a treadmill in Mexico City with no PVC's. Could altitude have been a factor where it is over 7,000 ft compared to my "sea level life"?
Anyway, it was good to read about someone with similar experiences, particularly with regard to exercise. Having said that, I have probably not exercised as much this past year because of the thought of PVC's coming and going...and for someone who really needs the "high" from exercise, it can get frustrating.
Anyway, hope we can maybe share some other experiences down the road.
Robert
You had mentioned that you had experienced PVC's in the general range of 110-115 during exercising. As I run quite a bit, I have noted the same thing. I seem to feel it during the warm up process and then during the cool down period. I find the same when playing basketball.
Although this "phenomenom" has been pretty consistent for the past year or so, I did do some cardio work on a treadmill in Mexico City with no PVC's. Could altitude have been a factor where it is over 7,000 ft compared to my "sea level life"?
Anyway, it was good to read about someone with similar experiences, particularly with regard to exercise. Having said that, I have probably not exercised as much this past year because of the thought of PVC's coming and going...and for someone who really needs the "high" from exercise, it can get frustrating.
Anyway, hope we can maybe share some other experiences down the road.
Robert
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Also, Magnesium oxide may worsen your particular type of PVCs as magnesium may lower your resting heart rate somewhat.
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Isn't lowering the heart rate actually reducing the risk of a fatal cardiac arrest?
From what I read, fish oil reduces heart rate somewhat (along with many cardio-protective effects). Magnesium does the similiar effect but in different ways. Doctors seem to say that if the resting rate is less than 65 bps, the risk of fatal arrythmia is reduced.
From what I understand, vigorous exercise reduces all-cause of mortality but can raise a risk of a particular dangerous arrythmia. However, when exercisers were compared to non-exercisers, they had a MUCH lower risk of mortality (1.7 percent vs 8.5 percent). In short, if you don't exercise, you're more likely to die of anything than if you do exercise.
Diet plays a huge role. If you consume too much trans fat acids in your diet, the risk of heart disease increases significantly and can adversily affect your heartbeats. Consuming more fatty fish (omega-3) seems to decrease your risk of heart disease. Getting enough potassium is important. Moderate your sodium intake.
And lastly, this may be odd but lack of sleep DOES increase the frequnecy of PVC's! If you think you don't sleep well during night, you need to be treated! Sleeping during the day instead of night is not good for your heart either.
Hope this helps.
-jeff
Also, Magnesium oxide may worsen your particular type of PVCs as magnesium may lower your resting heart rate somewhat.
>>
Isn't lowering the heart rate actually reducing the risk of a fatal cardiac arrest?
From what I read, fish oil reduces heart rate somewhat (along with many cardio-protective effects). Magnesium does the similiar effect but in different ways. Doctors seem to say that if the resting rate is less than 65 bps, the risk of fatal arrythmia is reduced.
From what I understand, vigorous exercise reduces all-cause of mortality but can raise a risk of a particular dangerous arrythmia. However, when exercisers were compared to non-exercisers, they had a MUCH lower risk of mortality (1.7 percent vs 8.5 percent). In short, if you don't exercise, you're more likely to die of anything than if you do exercise.
Diet plays a huge role. If you consume too much trans fat acids in your diet, the risk of heart disease increases significantly and can adversily affect your heartbeats. Consuming more fatty fish (omega-3) seems to decrease your risk of heart disease. Getting enough potassium is important. Moderate your sodium intake.
And lastly, this may be odd but lack of sleep DOES increase the frequnecy of PVC's! If you think you don't sleep well during night, you need to be treated! Sleeping during the day instead of night is not good for your heart either.
Hope this helps.
-jeff
Hello all,
It's been some time since I've visted this forum but occansionally, time to time I too scan for a "miracle cure" to PVC's/PAC's. Just some imput in general... I'm male 29 (first noted PVC's at 24).
To: CWADB & MONICA
I find that I will get a "skip" here and there around 1-5 times per week. Usually at a low resting rate around 46-50 BPM or during peak exercise sometimes over 160 BPM, nothing in the middle. The most noticable difference has been in my mind not body. Reducing stress and the thoughts regarding my heart has dramatically reduced everything. Do PVC's get better over the years? Mine sure did. I used to feel a very strong beat, like a bowling ball falling in the center of my chest. Now I can't really tell if one has occured or memories of the past; I'd need an event monitor to confirm.
Exercise has made things alot better. I've been active my entire life, but during my first few episodes I became afraid of exercise and pushing myself at the gym. Off course make sure all is well and don't concentrate on your mind, persevere, do the impossible and you will!
To: HANSTAR
I've read your many posts, you seem to be very educated when it comes to the heart. You also seem overly concerned and focused on yours. Though I'm still a "baby" I'm learning, I agree with the doctors that we have to deal with what we have and live the life we've been given. We're going to die, it's just a question of when. I remember my Grandma overseas when I was 4 (she was 49) would complain about her heart and how it hurt, no cardiologists around back then in former USSR. She died of a stroke at age 78 in Israel. I've just learned that living has been more enjoyable than worrying about what's wrong, why it went wrong and how to fix it and the many many theories that vary person to person and doctor to doctor. Hope your doing well.
Alex in Toronto.
It's been some time since I've visted this forum but occansionally, time to time I too scan for a "miracle cure" to PVC's/PAC's. Just some imput in general... I'm male 29 (first noted PVC's at 24).
To: CWADB & MONICA
I find that I will get a "skip" here and there around 1-5 times per week. Usually at a low resting rate around 46-50 BPM or during peak exercise sometimes over 160 BPM, nothing in the middle. The most noticable difference has been in my mind not body. Reducing stress and the thoughts regarding my heart has dramatically reduced everything. Do PVC's get better over the years? Mine sure did. I used to feel a very strong beat, like a bowling ball falling in the center of my chest. Now I can't really tell if one has occured or memories of the past; I'd need an event monitor to confirm.
Exercise has made things alot better. I've been active my entire life, but during my first few episodes I became afraid of exercise and pushing myself at the gym. Off course make sure all is well and don't concentrate on your mind, persevere, do the impossible and you will!
To: HANSTAR
I've read your many posts, you seem to be very educated when it comes to the heart. You also seem overly concerned and focused on yours. Though I'm still a "baby" I'm learning, I agree with the doctors that we have to deal with what we have and live the life we've been given. We're going to die, it's just a question of when. I remember my Grandma overseas when I was 4 (she was 49) would complain about her heart and how it hurt, no cardiologists around back then in former USSR. She died of a stroke at age 78 in Israel. I've just learned that living has been more enjoyable than worrying about what's wrong, why it went wrong and how to fix it and the many many theories that vary person to person and doctor to doctor. Hope your doing well.
Alex in Toronto.
I too am living proof how once one stops obsessing about the heart, the pvc's and all the other bumps and thumps are barely noticable. I used to be so "in tuned" to my heart that any time I left the house I would get some type of attack. And whenever it was a new feeling, I was sure I was going to die. That was 20 years ago and I am still here alive and kicking at 40. It took years to de-sensitize myself. I would get pvc's all day and all night. I just kept saying that if my mind was strong enough to make these skips and fast beats worse, then it was certainly strong enough to make them stop. I won for the most part. I still feel skips but refuse to give them the time of day. I used to stop as soon as I felt anything, feel my pulse and feared that I would pass out. Then I would get this one episode (usually it would wake me from sleep) where my heart raced at 220 beats along with pvc's. Boy, I really thought I was a goner. I still get that about twice a year. But my doctor says not to worry. I truly believe that stress,obsession and fear make these worse. There is no doubt!! I come to this forum about once a month. Hank I must say that you have given great advice and reasurrance, but I agree with ardx74. You need to listen to your advice a little more often!!!:) Good luck to everyone and stay calm
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