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PVC's - skipped heart beat cured

I have found very good relief from PVC's by taking 1 Tbsp of Calcium Citrate (Liquid calcium) two times daily with meals.  I think a significant number of people's PVC's are caused by mineral deficiencies, especially calcium, but probably also magnesium and potassium.

Be sure to take the liquid citrate type calcium (not calcium carbonate which doesn't absorb as easily) and don't exceed the daily recommended amount.  Take this along with your usual multi-vitamin and make sure to take vitamins with food, not on an empty stomach.

Some people's PVC's may be caused by other stuff, but I and many people I know have gotten very good relief from mineral supplements.

Also important is avoiding triggers, which are usually eating certain foods or eating too much at one sitting, excess alcohol and caffeine, cigarettes, not getting enough sleep and generally stressing out too much.



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159619 tn?1707018272
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I just looked it up on the Internet, that's all it took. Here's another drug site's version;

"Side Effects of Calcium Citrate

One of the most commonly observed calcium citrate side effects is that it causes some gastrointestinal problems. Like constipation, stomach gas, bloated feeling, etc. Some people also complain about nausea and vomiting, pain in the abdomen and loss of appetite. These problems are nothing very serious and one need not worry about them. They can be managed if calcium citrate supplement can be taken along with food and not in an empty stomach. In case, constipation becomes severe or continues for a long time, you may have to stop intake of calcium citrate. Headache is another minor form of side effect of calcium citrate and to control this one should take some rest.

The more serious side effects of calcium citrate is irregular heartbeat. This condition is often accompanied by other symptoms like flushing and excessive sweating. These symptoms are not very normal and doctor need to be consulted. Another side effect is increase in the frequency of urination. If you observe that the urine output has increased or you are experiencing any pain while urinating after you have started the intake of calcium citrate you should report this to your doctor.

Though allergic reaction to this calcium supplement is rare but it may happen. The symptoms of allergies are eruption of skin rashes, swelling inside the mouth or face, tight feelings in the chest, difficulty in breathing etc. Other rare side effects of calcium citrate are pain in muscles and bones, abnormal loss of body weight and swallowing difficulty may be observed in some people. You can also refer to calcium supplements - side effects.

Calcium citrate side effects can be controlled to a great extent if you have a detailed discussion with your doctor about your medical history and other medications. The doctor should have the knowledge of medical conditions like heart rhythm problem, kidney problem, frequent tendency of getting dehydration or constipation. Interaction of calcium citrate with other medicines could also be responsible for the side effects. Intake of any antibiotics, or other prescription drugs, herbs or dietary supplements should be informed too. If you have the habit of smoking or drinking alcohol, tell your doctor about it."

It was that easy. My point is that you are not qualified to tell people they should take this supplement and specifically tell them how to take it. Not everyone is aware they have underlying illness, that's why a doctor should be consulted. I am happy this works for you and there is nothing wrong with sharing this, but you really sound like a salesman, sorry it's how you came across. FYI, it is against forum rules to recommend treatment and dosage information.

Jon

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159619 tn?1707018272
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I'm sorry, I just wanted to get all the necessary information out there to help others make a decision.

I hope you continue to do well,

Jon
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I sympathize completely, I have also gone around and around trying to figure out which mineral supplement combination seems to be working best.  I was getting very good relief from the calcium carbonate pills with magnesium for the better part of a year and a half, then suddenly the PVC's came back suddenly one day out of the blue.

When I started taking the liquid calcium, they stopped on a dime right away and so I have been getting good results again with a change to my mineral supplementation sources and levels.  As a result, it is hard for me to imagine that mine are not somehow connected to calcium (and also perhaps magnesium) intake.

Could it be that the body somehow compensates or adapts to new forms of mineral intake and the switch to a new form of the same mineral causes such immediate relief?

Another issue may be potassium and since they don't really provide over the counter potassium supplements, I have tried to ensure that I consume foods high in potassium every day.

I have found that when each of these mineral sources are better balanced in my diet (including supplements), my PVC's are generally less troublesome for me.
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Ok, erjon, I just followed your advice and read the label of this over-the-counter liquid calcium product.  It doesn't list any of the side effects that you have mentioned above.  It only says "Caution: Pregnant or lactating women and people with known medical conditions should consult with their doctor before taking this or any dietary supplement."  

So of course, you are right that people with medical conditions should consult with their doctors about everything and not automatically take advice intended for healthy people.  I am only addressing the issue of benign PVC's in healthy people who have no other serious medical conditions.

I suspect that some of us have PVC's simply caused by low electrolyte levels and/or mineral deficiencies.  I only believe this because that's what my doctor told me and that has been my perception of my own experience for a long time.

As for dosing instructions, I'm just relaying, reporting, repeating what appears on the label of this product.  

As for charges of spamming, spammers are people who solicit goods or services via online mechanisms such as web-links and e-mails, none of which I have done.  I am not selling anything whatsoever, and have no relationship of any kind to anyone who is selling any product related to this discussion, therefore I am not a spammer.  

I'm just a military veteran with a service connected disability who developed a drinking problem after I got out of the service and when I finally got that problem better controlled, I discovered that an unhealthy lifestyle had led to my having a few chronic problems.  One of the problems was PVC's that were really unconformable and even frightening for several years before my doctor finally took them seriously, took a look at my heart and said it was fine, then told me to increase my calcium and magnesium supplements, which I did and promptly got dramatic relief from these PVC's.

I am only trying to spread this success to others whom I believe could benefit because I know how annoying PVC's can be, especially when they are strong and persistent.

I have been clear that it may not work for everyone since PVC's probably have different causes in some people, no one seems to know.  Obviously, if your PVC's are connected to organ disease, then probably none of what is being discussed here is applicable to you.

I think there are many, like myself and itdood, who believe they have gotten good, if not perfect relief from mineral supplementation, so there is no reason not to at least try it, unless you have a medical condition, in which case, of course, you should consult your doctor first.
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I think calcium has helped mine as-well.  I just take the pill form.  I'm not completely positive about that though.  Too many factors going on for me.  When I was getting PVCs really bad I was taking large doses of a chelated form of mag, and I had a large decrease in the # of PVCs.  I swore up and down it was the mag.  Then after a few months I had a sudden increase in PVCs again without changing anything on the mag.  I thought well there goes that theory.  Then a friend of mine pointed out that you have to take cal with mag, as mag can deplete cal.  I took the cal and noticed a very real decrease in the PVCs again.  like chasing my tail.  Right now I don't take either of them and I hardly get PVCs.
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159619 tn?1707018272
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Yea, sounded like a sales pitch to me as well. In any case, I don't have any issue telling us about something that worked for any individual, but going as far as giving dosing instructions is just dangerous and a little on the reckless side. Not to mention against forum rules.

Bottom line, anyone that comes to a forum to get advice should always run it past their doctor. JMHO...........

Jon
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Sounded like spam to me.  Californiaparalawyer needs to watch how he/she states things.  
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159619 tn?1707018272
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I'm sorry, but read the label. Just because it's a natural supplement does NOT mean it is safe for everyone. The manufacturer even recommends you speak to your doctor before starting use. You don't know the medical histories of people you are telling to try this, that's what their doctors are for. That's why we are not qualified to give people treatment options. Telling someone about your success is a good thing, but you should always suggest people check with their doctors first unless you have the letters MD after your name. In addition, you sound like a salesman to me, just saying.

Jon
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you've got to be kidding - it's a nutritional supplement, not chemotherapy
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thank you for this info good luck, hope they stay gone for you .
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159619 tn?1707018272
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Please keep in mind that Calcium Citrate has the risk of the following side effects;

•nausea/vomiting
•loss of appetite
•unusual weight loss
•mental/mood changes
•bone/muscle pain
•headache
•increased thirst/urination
•weakness
•unusual tiredness

In addition, it should only be avoided or only taken under a doctor's care if you already have any of the following;

•kidney disease
•kidney stones
•little or no stomach acid (achlorhydria)
•heart disease
•disease of the pancreas
•a certain lung disease (sarcoidosis)
•difficulty absorbing nutrition from food (malabsorption syndrome)

One should always check with a medical professional before starting any new treatment including over the counter supplements as there can be many factors that may not be know. This is a case of ask your doctor first.

Jon
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