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PVC's and/or VENTRICULAR BIGEMINY
I am a 42 year old male, very active. Recently lost a great deal of weight. After a very nerve racking 2 weeks, I have been diagnosed with Ventricular Bigeminy or also PVC's. I have had every test, given what seems to be gallons of blood and am being told that my heart is chemically and physically healthy, but this is just something that I will need to live with. In this day of medical miracles, etc., I have a hard time thinking that I just have to live with this, but if that is the way it is, so be it. My question is this, I am wondering if there are any vitamins, etc., that I can take that may help these to not be so bad. I know I can take Atenolol, but that is a stronger BP med and if would only control, if there is some vitamin or something less harmfull, I would like to try that. Also, if there is anyone who is reading this that suffers from the same thing, I would love to hear from you as to how you are dealing with these. I have been given the OK to return to my regular 6 day a week work out schedule and so I do plan on doing that. I would just appreciate any advice that anyone can give me.
Thank You...RDLOVE
Thank You...RDLOVE
Doctor,
One study is NOT enough to discount several observational studies. Don't just discount fish oil based on ONE study. Tell your patients about this study along with several observational studies regarding fish oil. They deserve to know all studies, even if they conflict each other.
And to gaspipe who wrote: "I'am glad the Doc responded to your statement on the fish oil etc. I have "suffered" from pvcs for 17 years and outside of pharmacalogical{sp}means there are no real cures.I've tried them all believe me I have and no vitamin or supplement known is more than a relief to a lucky few."
Well, do you realize that there are studies that shows that people with PVC's who take medications have greater mortality than those with PVC's that don't take medications? Does it mean that we should stop giving drugs to all of them? NO!
That is exactly the same idea with fish oil. Just because a single study finds increased arrythmia (VT in particular) doesn't mean fish oil is no good. I argued that it reduces cardiac mortality and the doctor didn't say anything about it in that new study. He may explain more.
Drugs and supplements ONLY work if patients RESPOND to them. Keep that in mind. For example, my mother takes Prozac and responds to it well while my friend took it and didn't respond anything to it. Patients with nutritional deficiencies will respond to supplements or diets but it turns out that there's a possiblity that some people need greater amount of nutrients to make it work optimally.
-jeff
One study is NOT enough to discount several observational studies. Don't just discount fish oil based on ONE study. Tell your patients about this study along with several observational studies regarding fish oil. They deserve to know all studies, even if they conflict each other.
And to gaspipe who wrote: "I'am glad the Doc responded to your statement on the fish oil etc. I have "suffered" from pvcs for 17 years and outside of pharmacalogical{sp}means there are no real cures.I've tried them all believe me I have and no vitamin or supplement known is more than a relief to a lucky few."
Well, do you realize that there are studies that shows that people with PVC's who take medications have greater mortality than those with PVC's that don't take medications? Does it mean that we should stop giving drugs to all of them? NO!
That is exactly the same idea with fish oil. Just because a single study finds increased arrythmia (VT in particular) doesn't mean fish oil is no good. I argued that it reduces cardiac mortality and the doctor didn't say anything about it in that new study. He may explain more.
Drugs and supplements ONLY work if patients RESPOND to them. Keep that in mind. For example, my mother takes Prozac and responds to it well while my friend took it and didn't respond anything to it. Patients with nutritional deficiencies will respond to supplements or diets but it turns out that there's a possiblity that some people need greater amount of nutrients to make it work optimally.
-jeff
Magnesium Oxide 400 mg has worked wonders for my PVC's and A-fib. It may work for you too. Although I must say that my Magnesium level was low prior to taking it.
I'am glad the Doc responded to your statement on the fish oil etc. I have "suffered" from pvcs for 17 years and outside of pharmacalogical{sp}means there are no real cures.I've tried them all believe me I have and no vitamin or supplement known is more than a relief to a lucky few. No research backed study in a reputable medical journal to date has shown otherwise and I wish they had!! Over the years I believe I have had at times the world"s most expensive urine from all the things you mention and more and still the pvcs are there and then gone for a while only to return again.So listen to the research and realize your cardiologist may be trying his best to allow you to use mind over matter to help yourself and all those supplements are likely no more than that.
Fish oil is usually the most effective at reducing PVC's. In fact, a few studies find that fish oil is highly effective at preventing fatal arrythmias. For doctors NOT to prescribe fish oil to heart patients is irresponsible, given the overwhelming evidence that fish oil reduces cardiac mortality by up to 60% in patients.
Ablation works for the majority of patients with frequent PVC's but there are risks involved as well.
-jeff
Ablation works for the majority of patients with frequent PVC's but there are risks involved as well.
-jeff
I know what you're going through!It can really bring you down.After getting the ok with my doc,I am using herbs and vitamins to control my PVCs.They have worked wonders for me.Hawthorn berry and Notoginseng are two herbs that help stregnthen and regulate heart function.There's also Magnesium,Taurine and Co Q-10.
I had bigeminy for years. I laos had a friend with it who was cured via ablation. Bigeminy can be cured via ablation. You might want to look into that.
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