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PVC's and related arrhythmias

I am a 49 year old male who since early child hood have had episodes of premature beats which are easily felt because I am thin. Past EKG's have usually shown normal sinus rhythms with occaisional pvcs.
Also on exercise I would have runs of rapid 120-140bpm (after) that sometimes went on for hours but kind of outgrew them. Some doctors hear a click or slight murmur. Recently have had more frequent bouts of premature beats that sometimes are accompanied by a spasm like sensation which can be felt with finger tips under the left breast. They only last afew seconds but also create a flush or rush sensation. I recently had a stress test, EKG, and a doppler echo. Stress test was normal and echo was also except for mild regurgitation of the tricuspid and slight of the mitral.
Through the years some doctors have said that I also have MVP but this has not been proven on the echo. I am currently wearing an event recorder and have had 30 events in two weeks which the doc says are benign. However, am scared about the shuddering sensations and incresing frequency of other symptoms. I don't smoke, drink, and have cut out all caffeine. I want to think that I am doing all that I can to ensure my kids have a dad to grow up with. However, the increasing frequency of the symptoms are robbing me of sleep and making me paranoid about travelling etc. They seem to come out of nowhere and last for varying lengths of time. Any suggetions would be most appreciated.
PS have never fainted with these symptoms but have felt faint occaisionally with them.
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I first experienced PVCs 14 years ago when I was 36, immediately after recovering from a severe case of the flu.  The sensation was of a skipped beat, and after the pause a beat so hard it would shake my body a little while lying quietly in bed.  Although I was in very good physical condition, like many of you, I was afraid I was on the verge of a heart attack (I thought the flu might have attacked my heart somehow).  I had an ECG and was diagnosed with PVCs and told they were benign, and they have proven to be no problem.  In my case they disappear with exercise, and lying on my right side at night minimizes the sensation.  I have found that they come and go over time; sometimes I am unaware of them for months on end.  However, what prompted me to do a search and find this site was that a few days ago I began having very pronounced and frequent PVCs, several times a minute day and night. There's nothing different in my life--no extra stress, unusual caffeine or alcohol consumption--so I don't know what is causing this flare-up. Any ideas, anyone--especially you MDs?
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I have experienced PVC's for the past 7 years.  I have panic/anxiety disorder.  However, with medication this seems to be under control.  The PVC's still continue and create a great discomfort to me thus increasing my anxiety.  I have had all the tests, echo, ekg, holter monitor and event recorder (queen of hearts).  Dr.'s say there is no need for concern.  How and when does one stop worrying about this?  I have cut out caffine, rest well.  I moved recently but up until then I used the treadmill regularly from 15 - 30 minutes 3 to 5 times a week.  Sorry...exercise didn't help to eliminate the PVC's.  Sometimes they would occur during exercise.  I still worry there is something wrong and the Dr.s just haven't found it yet.  This is so scary.  I didn't travel at all for many years and still can't travel without companionship.  At one time I couldn't walk more than two houses past my own.  I am able to get around town alright now with the help of therapy but still feel very restricted.  Any other suggestions or advise?
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WOW  can't believe all of you are out there. I have been having PVCs and PACs for about 5 months now. Same story as all of you.
The doctors test and test. No problems except the arrythmias.
Sometimes i get them every third of fourth beat, Scares the heck out of you,The feeling of shortness of breath and general anxiety is really disconcerting.I also have asthma brought on by allergy. So sometimes im having PVCs and shortness of breath along with an asthma attack,Geez, Now thats a trip!!!! ha ha ha .
All i can tell you is,Nothing ever stops the attacks completely,
But i hear all of us will probably be OK. Try not to worry to much, And remember YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!. And your not gonna die from these damn things.Although it sure feels that way sometimes.
SEE YA  jeff
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WOW  can't believe all of you are out there. I have been having PVCs and PACs for about 5 months now. Same story as all of you.
The doctors test and test. No problems except the arrythmias.
Sometimes i get them every third of fourth beat, Scares the heck out of you,The feeling of shortness of breath and general anxiety is really disconcerting.I also have asthma brought on by allergy. So sometimes im having PVCs and shortness of breath along with an asthma attack,Geez, Now thats a trip!!!! ha ha ha .
All i can tell you is,Nothing ever stops the attacks completely,
But i hear all of us will probably be OK. Try not to worry to much, And remember YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!. And your not gonna die from these damn things.Although it sure feels that way sometimes.
SEE YA  jeff
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Please everyone suffering from PVC's, check out my post under heading, "What's causing my pvc's".  GOOD LUCK TO ALL.
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I've just logged on to this website and found it somewhat comforting to find that I am one of thousands that suffer from PVCs.  The Doctor told me they were not life threatening, but of course it doesn't feel that way when you're having them.  They started about a year ago (I'm 41)and fortunately they have diminished to almost nothing.  As to what causes them...definately stressfull situations such as driving through an unfamiliar city, giving an impromtu presentation or having the school call to say that your child has been hurt.  I have also noticed a correlation between heartburn or acid reflux and PVCs.  I have suffered heartburn for many years, since the birth of my first child, and I beleive that the lining of my oesophagus has in some way deteriorated, allowing acid, by osmosis, to physically affect my heart.  Do you remember disecting a frog at school and putting salt water on its heart to make it beat?  Well I think it the same kind of thing.  The close proximity of the stomach acid may affect the conductivity in the heart causing the slight malfunction of the electrical impulses, resulting in PVCs.  If it were your car you'd call it preignition.  So, if I take an antacid as soon as I feel the onset of heartburn or indigestion I don't get any PVCs.  If I don't take the antacid and become uncomfortable with heartburn I get PVCs.  I have also experienced a fast pounding heart when not exercising (or dreaming of Mel Gibson) and I have pinned this down to food.  Highly processed foods that contain a lot of salt, MSGs, colors and flavorings make my heart pound and give me a headache.  It can be very difficult at times to avoid these types of food but I would advise anyone with the same symptoms to try a change in diet.  Buy fresh vegetables, meats and grains, if you have to buy packages read the labels.  Of course there are pesticides on the vegetables and growth hormones in the meat but it's a step in the right direction.  I'm glad to have the opportunity to give my two pennies worth in this forum.  To all of you that have PVCs, try not to worry and steer clear of the pizza!
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Just to say that most of your stories could be my story.  I have a lovely home and family but my life is overshadowed with heart irregularities.  I too feel nervous to go out, work, travel, because I never know when an attack will begin.  I am 44 now and have had trouble since being a teenager.  I have met with the same medical brick walls and unsympathetic doctors - I think basically, we're stuck with this thing.
Best Wishes to all of you.
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Well folks I too have been dealing with PVC's .I had my first episode when i was 24. I am ow 52 and still having them but not as frequently. I do on occaision have a multiple which is extremely uncomfortable and you always wonder "is this the one that is going to take me out." I am on atenenol 50mgs. a day and they definately help. If i forgget to take one in the morning i know it by thee afternoon when the skipping begins. I have for years tried to tie this to diet and have even charted what i eat and drank to see if it coinsided with the pvcs. The things I know to avoid now are caffiene, nicotene, especially together seems much worse, any medication like Contact or ones like it,If I get a cold I tough it out rather than use them. Items I suspect and try to avoid are msg, and nutrasweet. As for sleeping that is another thing. For reasons I can not explain somenights I am just on the brink of sleep and I am jolted back awake. There is a very strange feeling that goes with it like you have to move to make it stop. This I hate even more than the pvcs. Has anyone experienced this ? I also have wondered if sleep apnea has a part in this whole scenario. As far as doctors I have been through all the same tests and procedures that you all have with the same apathetic responses. The classic was when the DR. says to me "Well it hasn't killed you in the last 25 years whats the problem. What we need is a doctor who suffers from these things himself before we will ever get one who understands. I hope this helps someone feel free to Email me on this subject at ***@****
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Well folks I too have been dealing with PVC's .I had my first episode when i was 24. I am ow 52 and still having them but not as frequently. I do on occaision have a multiple which is extremely uncomfortable and you always wonder "is this the one that is going to take me out." I am on atenenol 50mgs. a day and they definately help. If i forgget to take one in the morning i know it by thee afternoon when the skipping begins. I have for years tried to tie this to diet and have even charted what i eat and drank to see if it coinsided with the pvcs. The things I know to avoid now are caffiene, nicotene, especially together seems much worse, any medication like Contact or ones like it,If I get a cold I tough it out rather than use them. Items I suspect and try to avoid are msg, and nutrasweet. As for sleeping that is another thing. For reasons I can not explain somenights I am just on the brink of sleep and I am jolted back awake. There is a very strange feeling that goes with it like you have to move to make it stop. This I hate even more than the pvcs. Has anyone experienced this ? I also have wondered if sleep apnea has a part in this whole scenario. As far as doctors I have been through all the same tests and procedures that you all have with the same apathetic responses. The classic was when the DR. says to me "Well it hasn't killed you in the last 25 years whats the problem. What we need is a doctor who suffers from these things himself before we will ever get one who understands. I hope this helps someone feel free to Email me on this subject at ***@****
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bob
This is incrdible. I thought I was the only one that felt this way. SInce high school I had thought I was out of shape. Never could really exercise. While I am not fat, the exercise would be nice.
I have regular bouts with PVCs, and the attacks have become... more liken to a bad habit. My body(mind) has become used to them. For the longest time I was on some serious medications and I ended up racking up some huge hospital bills. Mostly for observations and medication adjustment.

I am currently on Toporol and Lanoxin. I have my lanoxin level checked every three months. For the first time in years I have knocked the episodes down to bearable.

I also got aggrivated with the doctors saying, I was too sensitive and there was nothing they could do. At one time they were going send me to have a Maze procedure done.

Needless to say at 30 years old. Open heart was not  high on my list. I can now say that with the meds mentioned here, I am finally living.... as normal as I can.

For those that are fearing this, keep the faith. Keep beating you doctors up about it. Maybe one day we can overcome this.

Bob
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Well, here I go.  I went to the emergency room friday night with the following symtoms.  Pain in the neck and shoulder, flushness chest pain since last sunday that comes and goes.  I have felt like I had to take a deep breath, and I had sweaty palms.  Also a high nervousness feeling.   They drew blood and took chest xrays.  Before they decided to keep me overnight they told me that my blood test came back negative for heart attack.  The cardioligist came by that morning and said he wanted to do a echocardiogram and a echostress test.  All came back negative and he discharged me.  I can't help but to feel like something is going on.  The doctor told me that everything is fine.  I needed to go on a low cholesterol diet and exersice.  Why do I still feel hints of these symptoms, a day after.  My mom has just had 3 stents put in as many months and I think I am driving myself crazy with all this stuff.  Can anything help put my mind at ease?
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To Michele

What do you mean with: I do pass away...?
I have PVC's as well and am fighting anxiety or even then and then panick attacks. Feel free to e-mail if you want ***@****  . I know what you're talking about ! How long have you had this condition ? Do you have an irregular heartbeat occasionaly or constantly ?

Loren
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After feeling like a fool following a visit to the ER, I was pleased to find this site...The doctors reaction to my PVC's was apathetic.  He smiled and said most people do not feel them.  Go home. easy for him to say..They control my life. I agree, they precipitate a panic attack....You get so you are afraid to try new things for fear of having an attack.  I however do pass out with them.  My doctor assures me that nothing is wrong, but as a woman who lives alone, fainting is a scary think.  I hate to drive when I am like that. I fear that I shall pass out behind the wheel and kill someone. He does feel there is a connection with vaso vagal in my case and encourages me to stay well hydrated. Reduction in caffein and other stimulants doesn't make a difference, nor has the bata blockers. Today I am to double the dose of my meds. I have low blood pressure  and the thought of lowering it even more does not excite me.  I fear the dreaded fainting spells.  I have been through numerous tests, including neuro-work ups. MVP abd PVC's are all that they find. I resent the doctors shrugging this off as merely an inconveinience.  It creates a fear which in turn aggravates the symptoms. I am supposed to see my doctor for a follow up visit next week. I am so frustrated I don't htink I will go. He will say the same old thing, but not offer any relief for my symptoms.
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Jon
I have the same thing as most of you.  I am 29, dont drink or smoke, BUT I have a rather nasty caffeine habit.  When I was in high school I developed PVC's, and I would usually average 1-2 a min.  I can feel them also with my finger on the left side of my cheast. They feel like a big "thump" and then there is a pause.

When i got out of high school the calmed down alot, and caffeine does not seem to affect them.  I have been having more bouts of the past few weeks due to college and general stress I think.  I also cut back on my caffeine (did not intend to, just happend) and I think that lowering my caffeine intake may have made the PVC's become more frequent again.  I also get a "head rush" when they happen.  My only thing is that VERY rarely (like a few times a year) I will get a RUN of them where I will have like 5-10 PVC's in a few secs time, that is a bit scary.  Doc has siad they are beign.
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Hi

I do have PVC's quite often too. After some negative testing (ECG, Stress-ECG..) I know that they are not dangerous. Nevertheless it feels scary to feel your heart working irregularly. I have noticed that the more I think of the PVC's the worse my heart gets. This gets me into anxiety, which worsens
my heartrate and so on and so on.
The more I think about life, plan, enjoy .... the better I feel and less PVC's do I have !!

Recently I decided that I wanted to hear my heartbeats myself and did some simple records on which I caught some PVC's and PAC's as well. If anyone is interested in getting such a short audio, mail to ***@**** . It is interesting to hear once yourself what your heartbeat does and not to feel it only.

Greetings

Loren
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To Linda Johnson and the rest of the Kindred Souls out there-
I understand the fearful and almost surreal feeling of the total change in your life so suddenly.  I am 26 years old and 10 weeks pregnant with my first child.I was just told I have MVP with moderate to severe regurgitation (I had never been diagnosed with this before). The 2 cardiologists I have seen tell me (while I am sitting in front of them in their office) to proceed with the pregnancy (although I have already been told that may not be the case in subsequent pregnancies) and they foresee zero problems with this pregnancy itself, but use words on the follow up reports  like "may need surgery in the future" and "severe and eccentric mitral regurgitation", "significant regurgitation", "unsafe leakage". The reports also show I have no current heart damage or enlargement. I have yet to have any symptoms except extreme anixety from the confusion and despair I feel thinking that I may not be able to properly care for my child or my biggest fear, surgery or DEATH. The doctors I deal with are somewhat uncompassionate and seem to want to rush you out of their office.  One of the amazing things I experienced was filling out the initial paperwork at the cardiologist's office....all they seemed concerned with was my insurance.  My attending doctor was going to fax over the necessary referral, but they wanted an original and made me sign a waiver agreeing to pay in full if that referral failed to get to their office in time. I was scared and the last thing one my mind was clerical rules. My other experience was lying on a table getting an ECHO and EKG and the Technician and assistant and cardiologist standing over me pointing to the screen, grimacing and speaking to each other in medical jargon i could not understand.  When I asked what they were talking about, they were evasive.  When I got dressed to leave they said "good luck".  Wonderful.
I have suffered anxiety attacks since I was 13 and have been treated for general anixety disorder.  Before finding out about my MVP, I hadn't had an panic attack for over 2 years and stopped taking the prescibed Xanax. I finally felt good. I thought I finally had a handle on things...until this.  Now I am literally paralzed by fear and foreboding.  I feel alone. I feel hopeless. I am truly in shock. The only time I feel better is reading the comments in this forum.  We, the sufferers of this disorder or other related heart disorders, need to stick together, because obviously we cannot count on the professionals to give us the serious advice and support we need (or a straight answer).
I would appreciate any one who feels as I do, e-mailing me.  I would like to give support and receive support from people who not only know, but feel what I feel.  My e-mail address is Dollylo55@AOL.
Thank you and you all are in my prayers.
Jamie
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Susan, As you can see there are many who suffer from pvc's in many forms and numbers. Panic and anxiety tend to feed off the arrhythmias. I know myself that lying on either the right or left side make them worse. Also the shakiness and other related symptoms are common. I also have pvc's with long pauses where there are 2 or three in a row and these are especially troubling. Beta blockers work for some but all have side effects. I work two jobs and that is very difficult when experiencing these symptoms. Know you are not alone in your suffering and if you need to talk feel free to e-mail me or I am sure many of the other postee's for support.

Good luck and best regards
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Hello - this is a general message to all - basically I have been sitting here in amazement reading the comments on this forum and feeling so grateful that I am not alone!
I have had PVC's, PAC's and parxysomal tachycardia for 10 years now.  It all started when I was pregnant and like others on this site I notice a distinct correlation between ovulation and just prior to my cycle.
My cardioligist has recently prescribed a calcium channel blocker which he says helps some people with these beats.  Has anybody out there tried this?  I don't like taking any medication, however take 1mg of valium at night to sleep better!
I work full time and WON'T LET THIS CONDITION BEAT ME!!  Sometimes after I get a few PVC's in a row I break out in a sweat and feel as if I will pass out - does this happen to anyone else? Also does anyone have a dramatic increase in symptoms when lying down - especially on their left side?  I can sometimes bring them on by lying down this way and then when I sit up they stop!
Like others I find all this very difficult to accept - I now suffer panic attacks - I am sure as a result of having had this horrible thing for so long now.
It has been a great comfort to read all of your comments and would appreciate any answers to my above questions.
Love to all
Susan in South Australia
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I've suffered with PVCs for many years now, and I still get panicky when they occur.  This weekend I had an episode in a restaurant during my sister's wedding rehearsal dinner and had to ask my husband to take me back to the hotel.  I can usually stop an episode by coughing, but this time it didn't seem to help.  I started to panic.  I don't get them all the time, but I do have several episodes everyday.  I get cold and sick to my stomach, but I think it might be due to the panic I feel.  I also suffer from panic disorder and these don't help that situation at all.  I take 5mg. of Paxil everyday for the panic disorder which seems to help except for when I feel the PVCs.  I've had several holter monitors and EKGs and echocardiograms during the years and they all tell me it's a benign condition, but they seem to be getting worse as I get older (I just turned 45).  They are ruining my life.  Thank you for listening, I just needed to express my fears.
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This is just a general post to all the PVC sufferers.  I find it very sad that with today's medical advances, we have to be stuck with this annoying heart condition.  I suffer PVC's and occasional rapid heart beats apparantly as a symptom of my MVP.  On some days it has consumed my life.  As I type this, the PVC's are occuring, not many, but enough to make me wonder if there isn't some kind of hormone injection or something to cause them to go away.  I'm on Inderal 3X a day (10 mg) and BusPar for anxiety.  Not much help for the PVC's. They are less forceful, but just as frequent.   Drinking alot of water seems to help, but I get waterlogged!  I always get more in the morning and less later in the day, and I always get them while I'm eating or right after, and they seem to be worse just before my cycles.  If I was prone to this condition, why didn't they show up in this frequency years ago instead of only in the last year.  I am 42, but not premenopausal according to blood tests.
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Yeppers Same here... when i eat sometimes toooo much i feel them... I know that i feel them more when i go close to 180 pounds too.. lol.. go figure.. i work out and don't get them,,, I do know one thing,, that stress test.. WOW.. what a workout.. the echo-cardiogram,, i think that was it,, where you see your heart beating after the Stress test was real cool... the doctore said it was perfect.. made me feel much better,,, they also said that PVC's are othing to worry about the most you can do is pass out.. I can deal with that.. unless i am driving!!! :)

anyway you can email me ***@****
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I understand what you all have been going through.  I am 44 years old, and always been in good health. I started to have irregular heart beats a few weeks ago when I went for a walk, and felt very faint and dizzy.  Since then my pulse was high, and my heart was skipping beats.  One night I couldn't lie down because my heart was pounding so much.  I had to sit on a chair, and try to get some sleep.  I had tried to take all kinds of herbs that are supposed to help, but nothing worked.  But, I had faith that somehow I would be healed.

Then a cardiologist prescribed me Atenolol which is used for high blood pressure and irregular heartbeats.  I usually don't like to take any medicine, but this time I had to give in because nothing else seemed to work.  My heartbeats became normal two hours after taking the first pill three days ago, and I haven't had any skipped beats since. Now I take my pills without questioning, and am happy to sleep my nights peacefully.

I hope that you'll find a good cardiologist that can help you.
God bless you all.
Helen
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Hi,

I have had PVCs for six years, ranging between hundreds to 15 thousand a day.  These also include VTs.  I noticed eating meals caused the PVCs/VTs to act up quite a bit.  I asked my electrophysiologist and he mentioned that when we eat, our bodies release something (sorry, I do not remember what it was) that sends something to our heart (very vague, but a doctor should be able to explain).  The bottom line is, you're not imagining it at all.   Shortly before I had an ablation, I feared eating a meal because I knew it could trigger VTs.  You're not alone.

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I have read through the discussion board and find I am having a similar experience with these PVC's.  I have gone to my doctor twice for EKG's and had the 24-hour halter.  The halter showed 100 to 150 PVC's per hour over twenty four hours. The doctor is now sending me for a stress test.   I have over the last two months gone from no symptoms, to palpitations continuously all day.  The worst episodes are when I eat, drink, or basically stop moving.  Sleeping has become the worst part of the whole thing. When I am sleeping I am ok, but the problem is getting to sleep.  I find at the worst times it is coming every 4 beats.  During the day I have just plain stopped eating on the job.  I work at a desk and think I would probably be better digging holes, maybe I would not feel them as much.  I do know my nerves/anxiety amplifies it by ten times.   After my doctor called and told me the usual news (they are not life threatening) I felt better for about two days almost like a weight had been lifted off my shoulders.  Then I started to second-guess the doctor, and got nervous, and they came back with a vengeance.  I am hoping they might fade away (maybe even if for a while) and give me a break.  I do know if I get good nights sleep that holds them off for the beginning of the day.    I also found my secondary problem is my frustration with the health care system.  My doctor and me seem to disagree on how serious these are.  Getting to see a Cardioligist is at least a four week wait.  The only thing these PVC's seem to be good for is losing wieght.  Fear of death diet.   Anyone want to email me ***@****
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