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Still having pain
A healthy and happy New Year to you Cardio Docs!
I have pain in my chest, jaw and arm. I am been worked up twice with a stress echo, twice in one year. I wore a holter during these episodes and it came back fine. I am on Atenolol. I have a few questions though.
1. Will Atenolol weaken my heart over time ? (years) 25 mg. I take it for pvc's.
2. Is the stress echo accurate in woman? I am 34 and otherwise healthy? I have had one regular stress test, an echocardiogram, and two stress echo's. (all within one year)
3. Can panic or anxiety really cause these same symptoms? ( chest/arm pain too?)
Every time I go to the Er with these symptoms, my Ekg and enzymes are fine...Any clues? My cardio says its NOT my heart, but it sure feels like it when the pain in my chest hurts.
Thanks and blessings. :)
I have pain in my chest, jaw and arm. I am been worked up twice with a stress echo, twice in one year. I wore a holter during these episodes and it came back fine. I am on Atenolol. I have a few questions though.
1. Will Atenolol weaken my heart over time ? (years) 25 mg. I take it for pvc's.
2. Is the stress echo accurate in woman? I am 34 and otherwise healthy? I have had one regular stress test, an echocardiogram, and two stress echo's. (all within one year)
3. Can panic or anxiety really cause these same symptoms? ( chest/arm pain too?)
Every time I go to the Er with these symptoms, my Ekg and enzymes are fine...Any clues? My cardio says its NOT my heart, but it sure feels like it when the pain in my chest hurts.
Thanks and blessings. :)
I was told recently by a gastro doc to MEDITATE and try YOGA for my contiuning chest pains and GERD and Hiatal Hernia Symptoms when Achifex/Prilosec and Prevacid did nothing to help me.
Instead I went to the drugstore and bought Zantac and Mylanta Extra Strength and these do help better till I can get into see a new doctor.
I am sure Yoga, etc, can help anyone whether you are in Mental or phsycial distress but if there is pathology to one's pains, a good doctor needs to be right in there too.
Instead I went to the drugstore and bought Zantac and Mylanta Extra Strength and these do help better till I can get into see a new doctor.
I am sure Yoga, etc, can help anyone whether you are in Mental or phsycial distress but if there is pathology to one's pains, a good doctor needs to be right in there too.
. Once I understood that, I was on my way to much better things, the least of which was getting my hope restored. Specifically, my journey lead me to systems of medicine outside of the Western model -- which is the way we all, for our own good, need to learn how to view this: that our system of medicine is not the only system of medicine -- and my experiences since have been much more hopeful, informative and, most importantly, productive. I have come so much farther than I was told I could ever go by almost all of my previous doctors -- and heartily believe my health will be completely restored in a natural and much gentler way. I am sorry I can't get more detailed here, I must go
*******************Okay, you have said nothing could be found, but say you have come much farther than any of the Dr.s had hoped...do share...I guess I know your basically saying not to worry? Is there some kind of Higher Healing you can share? :)
*******************Okay, you have said nothing could be found, but say you have come much farther than any of the Dr.s had hoped...do share...I guess I know your basically saying not to worry? Is there some kind of Higher Healing you can share? :)
Just a response after reading the messages here:
One thing I am struck by is the continuing to rely on this type of medical treatment when you keep getting the lack of results you're getting, not to mention the lack of compassion and simply not being believed...struck, but not without understanding. I was where many of you were several years ago, going from doctor to doctor, and emergency room to emergency room with my pain and symptoms, always being told in the end that there was nothing physically wrong with me that they could find and that the problems were probably psychological, but I learned this hard way that this was more about the limitations of allopathic/conventional medicine than about anything that had to do with me. Once I understood that, I was on my way to much better things, the least of which was getting my hope restored. Specifically, my journey lead me to systems of medicine outside of the Western model -- which is the way we all, for our own good, need to learn how to view this: that our system of medicine is not the only system of medicine -- and my experiences since have been much more hopeful, informative and, most importantly, productive. I have come so much farther than I was told I could ever go by almost all of my previous doctors -- and heartily believe my health will be completely restored in a natural and much gentler way. I am sorry I can't get more detailed here, I must go (besides everyone has their own journey), but please consider, if nothing else, a change in your way of thinking. Perhaps that is the best medicine at this time.
One thing I am struck by is the continuing to rely on this type of medical treatment when you keep getting the lack of results you're getting, not to mention the lack of compassion and simply not being believed...struck, but not without understanding. I was where many of you were several years ago, going from doctor to doctor, and emergency room to emergency room with my pain and symptoms, always being told in the end that there was nothing physically wrong with me that they could find and that the problems were probably psychological, but I learned this hard way that this was more about the limitations of allopathic/conventional medicine than about anything that had to do with me. Once I understood that, I was on my way to much better things, the least of which was getting my hope restored. Specifically, my journey lead me to systems of medicine outside of the Western model -- which is the way we all, for our own good, need to learn how to view this: that our system of medicine is not the only system of medicine -- and my experiences since have been much more hopeful, informative and, most importantly, productive. I have come so much farther than I was told I could ever go by almost all of my previous doctors -- and heartily believe my health will be completely restored in a natural and much gentler way. I am sorry I can't get more detailed here, I must go (besides everyone has their own journey), but please consider, if nothing else, a change in your way of thinking. Perhaps that is the best medicine at this time.
I guess I just have to forget about this?" and he said something like "well, it may be negative, but if you are still having symptoms, you really can't just forget about them ".
I'm glad you like the doctor you are seeing now. Good Luck
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Hey Chris, how old are you again? Have you worn a holter during these episodes? Esophageal Spasm can cause and mimic angina down to the jaw and arm pain too. I would ask for the Stress Echo, not just the treadmill...they look at your heart after exceeding a heartrate..go back on tghat treadmilll with NO HANDS again, with the Stress ECHO...insist insist insist...
I'm glad you like the doctor you are seeing now. Good Luck
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Hey Chris, how old are you again? Have you worn a holter during these episodes? Esophageal Spasm can cause and mimic angina down to the jaw and arm pain too. I would ask for the Stress Echo, not just the treadmill...they look at your heart after exceeding a heartrate..go back on tghat treadmilll with NO HANDS again, with the Stress ECHO...insist insist insist...
To: Chris
My former cardiologists more or less have had the same attitude. I truly believe they are "interventionists". They do great work when you're in a crisis, but don't know how to handle patients like us when the diagnosis isn't clearly defined. We're not the norm for them. Haven't you looked around their waiting rooms - average age is 65+! Although I have been told more and more younger patients are being seen. I think its because we're more in-tuned to our bodies and aren't afraid to search for what's going on. With patients like us and not so clearly defined illnesses, we're giving them their run for their money. I know I certainly don't want to get to an acute stage of anything.
The Dr. I'm seeing now is into Preventive Cardiology. They usually like to see patients before they have their first heart attack and they work to help patients avoid a crisis. I wish I had known about this before last March. They look at the whole patient - nutrition, exercise, etc. After my heart "event" I asked the old cardiologist about rehab and his answer to me was "I don't know of any programs, you might want to call around". I don't call this support and I won't go back to him! Perhaps the hospital in your area may have a Preventive Cardiology unit - its certainly worth looking into.
I like to consider myself one of those "dangerous patients", AN EDUCATED ONE! I've often been asked if I work in the health profession, and no I don't. If we don't look out for ourselves, who will?
Hang in there.... :-)
My former cardiologists more or less have had the same attitude. I truly believe they are "interventionists". They do great work when you're in a crisis, but don't know how to handle patients like us when the diagnosis isn't clearly defined. We're not the norm for them. Haven't you looked around their waiting rooms - average age is 65+! Although I have been told more and more younger patients are being seen. I think its because we're more in-tuned to our bodies and aren't afraid to search for what's going on. With patients like us and not so clearly defined illnesses, we're giving them their run for their money. I know I certainly don't want to get to an acute stage of anything.
The Dr. I'm seeing now is into Preventive Cardiology. They usually like to see patients before they have their first heart attack and they work to help patients avoid a crisis. I wish I had known about this before last March. They look at the whole patient - nutrition, exercise, etc. After my heart "event" I asked the old cardiologist about rehab and his answer to me was "I don't know of any programs, you might want to call around". I don't call this support and I won't go back to him! Perhaps the hospital in your area may have a Preventive Cardiology unit - its certainly worth looking into.
I like to consider myself one of those "dangerous patients", AN EDUCATED ONE! I've often been asked if I work in the health profession, and no I don't. If we don't look out for ourselves, who will?
Hang in there.... :-)
To: Beverly
I've already had an gb ultrasound and gb function study. Both have turned up normal, no evidence of stones. I am, however, persuing a GI endoscopy in order for them to get a closer look. To be honest with you, I'll be shocked if they find something there.
I've already had an gb ultrasound and gb function study. Both have turned up normal, no evidence of stones. I am, however, persuing a GI endoscopy in order for them to get a closer look. To be honest with you, I'll be shocked if they find something there.
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