Too much blood thinners?

[Sanford39]

In 2007 I had 7 stents put into the arteries in my heart. First 5 and two months later 2 more. I was put on a number of drugs. Two of them are Plavix 75 mg. and 2/ 81 mgs asprin. This was back in 2/2007. I recently had two episodes of Atrial Fibrilation. Coumadin 5 mg. was prescribed. I have been having side effects that hurt. 5 cm hemotosin in left forearm muscle. and bruises all over. I want to know if I have to continue with coumadin? Is there conflict with the other drugs I am taking?

[2210485]

So basically.. You take the anti platelets.. You bruise.

You stop taking the anti platelets and your stent closes up and you die.

Now.. The risk associated with stopping the anti platelets varies depending on the amount of time thats elapsed since your procedure and the amount of work that was done.. However a good rule of thumb is to just not take chances.

Coumadin is a horse of a whole different color. The goal of drugs given for afib is to prevent the formation of a clot in the heart.

If you stop taking coumadin with afib you die from a stroke.. Once you go on a drug like coumadin or digatraban you dont come off it. Theres no natural supplement thats going to replace them.

Even if rhythm control is accomplished they still dont pull the meds because its just too dangerous.

So yes,,the doctors do hear and understand even if they suck at showing it. Unfortunately your life is greater then how many bruises you have.

[2210485]

** dabigatran.. I dont think ive ever spelled that right on the first attempt.

[Bonesman71]

Blood thinners don't address the problems and in fact open the door for more problems. They dont help the circulatory system heel and strenghthen. Unfortunately I am taking three different ones now and hate it as i have gone thru. 3 times opening my left leg main artery. The Interior lining needs repaired and thinners dont do that. Doctors have no clue. Stents and thinners are all they understand.Then you are on your own to research natural supplements. So what do we do and where to look? Its Scary.

[Bonesman71]

Creates a scary situation with all those thinners. I take the same minus coumadin.but add eliquis. To me we are just walking time bombs. Doctors don't seem to care or really understand. Need safer and healthier way to keep blood flowing naturally. The answer to your question is to say no more coumadin.

[Bonesman71]

Blood thinners don't address the problems and in fact open the door for more problems. They dont help the circulatory system heel and strenghthen. Unfortunately I am taking three different ones now and hate it as i have gone thru. 3 times opening my left leg main artery. The Interior lining needs repaired and thinners dont do that. Doctors have no clue. Stents and thinners are all they understand.Then you are on your own to research natural supplements. So what do we do and where to look? Its Scary.

[kenkeith]

All three of the medication you have listed are anticoangulants.  Everyone is different regarding dose and doseage should based on a blood test called the INR (International Normalized Ratio). The amount of medication you take may change, based on the blood test.

Plavix is recommended for up to 1 year after stent implants to prevent blood clots for the DESs that have a higher record to clot.  Aspirin is recommended indefinitely and there is a different pharmological pathway between the two  anticoangulants.

Warfarin is one of the most widely used anticoagulant drugs worldwide. It is highly effective at antagonising the vitamin K dependent clotting pathway and is used for a wide range of diseases and conditions including atrial fibrillation and heart valve replacement. Warfarin has a narrow therapeutic window and wide inter-individual variability making dosing problematic. Under-anticoagulation can result in thrombosis but over-anticoagulation can result in dangerous bleeding episodes.

***Dosing is determined empirically, often based on age and underlying condition as well as increasingly now genetics, with adjustments made until the target International Normalized ratio (INR) for clotting is achieved.  With your bruising, etc. you should test for an appropriate target for clotting and not be given accessive anticlotting medication as it runs a higher risk of internal  bleeding.