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Ban on Vicodin and Percocet Limitation on Tylenol
Proposed Tylenol restrictions worry patients
FDA is considering reduced maximum dose, ban on Vicodin and Percocet
WASHINGTON - Proposed limits on Tylenol, a painkiller as common as pain itself, have left many consumers fearful, confused and wondering where to turn for relief. The potential government crackdown on acetaminophen, Tylenol's main ingredient, would affect everyone from occasional pill poppers to chronic pain sufferers who rely on daily doses to make their lives more bearable.
If adopted by the Food and Drug Administration, the changes would lower the maximum over-the-counter Tylenol dose and would ban two narcotic painkillers, Vicodin and Percocet, which also contain acetaminophen.
Yet another painkiller, propoxyphene, was the target of FDA action on Tuesday. Also sold as Darvon and in an acetaminophen combination called Darvocet, it has been linked to accidental overdoses and suicides. The prescription medication will now come with a pamphlet describing the risk.
More ....... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31782102/ns/health-more_health_news/
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I think people have been aware for YEARS that you cannot take too much Tylenol or it can hurt your liver but to liken Vicodin and Percocet to "candy mixed with poison" is just ludicrous. All meds have their place in the world and not everybody becomes addicted to them. It's up to the doctors to make sure they are not over prescribing - not take away these sort of mild pain meds to the rest of the world who can use them judiciously. That's my opinion.
FDA is considering reduced maximum dose, ban on Vicodin and Percocet
WASHINGTON - Proposed limits on Tylenol, a painkiller as common as pain itself, have left many consumers fearful, confused and wondering where to turn for relief. The potential government crackdown on acetaminophen, Tylenol's main ingredient, would affect everyone from occasional pill poppers to chronic pain sufferers who rely on daily doses to make their lives more bearable.
If adopted by the Food and Drug Administration, the changes would lower the maximum over-the-counter Tylenol dose and would ban two narcotic painkillers, Vicodin and Percocet, which also contain acetaminophen.
Yet another painkiller, propoxyphene, was the target of FDA action on Tuesday. Also sold as Darvon and in an acetaminophen combination called Darvocet, it has been linked to accidental overdoses and suicides. The prescription medication will now come with a pamphlet describing the risk.
More ....... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31782102/ns/health-more_health_news/
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I think people have been aware for YEARS that you cannot take too much Tylenol or it can hurt your liver but to liken Vicodin and Percocet to "candy mixed with poison" is just ludicrous. All meds have their place in the world and not everybody becomes addicted to them. It's up to the doctors to make sure they are not over prescribing - not take away these sort of mild pain meds to the rest of the world who can use them judiciously. That's my opinion.
Why not keep your sarcasm to yourself I am not looking for an argument you insist on being right and using religion to justify my disregard for a delusional judge and sycophant lawyers you responded to me first and initiated an ad hominem attack so please stop with your foolishness. Oh did you figusr out who said ETOH was okay!
I respect that.
You are standing by your Religious Convictions rather than submit to A Court’s Ruling. Most all Religious People would do the same
You are standing by your Religious Convictions rather than submit to A Court’s Ruling. Most all Religious People would do the same
I could care less what a Judge who is probably a creationist thinks. I believe in science not religion there are no ceremonies, no deities, no nothing to do with religion just because some circuit judge and a group of sycophant lawyers say so does not make it so. End of conversation I have little in common with fundies look back to see who commented it was ok to drink never said it was you, check your facts.
* Main Entry: athe·ism
* Pronunciation: \ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm\
* Function: noun
* Etymology: Middle French athéisme, from athée atheist, from Greek atheos godless, from a- + theos god
* Date: 1546
1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity
* Main Entry: athe·ism
* Pronunciation: \ˈā-thē-ˌi-zəm\
* Function: noun
* Etymology: Middle French athéisme, from athée atheist, from Greek atheos godless, from a- + theos god
* Date: 1546
1 archaic : ungodliness, wickedness
2 a : a disbelief in the existence of deity b : the doctrine that there is no deity
"Thanks for telling me I can drink what do you base that on? Everything I have read indicates the contrary. Tell me Guy and I will be delighted?"
What are you talking about? I don’t remember discussing drinking with you.
What are you talking about? I don’t remember discussing drinking with you.
Maybe you should check your facts
Posted: August 20, 2005
1:00 am Eastern
© 2009 WorldNetDaily.com
A federal court of appeals ruled yesterday Wisconsin prison officials violated an inmate's rights because they did not treat atheism as a religion.
"Atheism is [the inmate's] religion, and the group that he wanted to start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being," the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals said.
The court decided the inmate's First Amendment rights were violated because the prison refused to allow him to create a study group for atheists.
Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family Association Center for Law & Policy, called the court's ruling "a sort of Alice in Wonderland jurisprudence."
"Up is down, and atheism, the antithesis of religion, is religion," said Fahling.
The Supreme Court has said a religion need not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme being. In the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the court described "secular humanism" as a religion.
Fahling said today's ruling was "further evidence of the incoherence of Establishment Clause jurisprudence."
"It is difficult not to be somewhat jaundiced about our courts when they take clauses especially designed to protect religion from the state and turn them on their head by giving protective cover to a belief system, that, by every known definition other than the courts' is not a religion, while simultaneously declaring public expressions of true religious faith to be prohibited," Fahling said.
Posted: August 20, 2005
1:00 am Eastern
© 2009 WorldNetDaily.com
A federal court of appeals ruled yesterday Wisconsin prison officials violated an inmate's rights because they did not treat atheism as a religion.
"Atheism is [the inmate's] religion, and the group that he wanted to start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being," the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals said.
The court decided the inmate's First Amendment rights were violated because the prison refused to allow him to create a study group for atheists.
Brian Fahling, senior trial attorney for the American Family Association Center for Law & Policy, called the court's ruling "a sort of Alice in Wonderland jurisprudence."
"Up is down, and atheism, the antithesis of religion, is religion," said Fahling.
The Supreme Court has said a religion need not be based on a belief in the existence of a supreme being. In the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins, the court described "secular humanism" as a religion.
Fahling said today's ruling was "further evidence of the incoherence of Establishment Clause jurisprudence."
"It is difficult not to be somewhat jaundiced about our courts when they take clauses especially designed to protect religion from the state and turn them on their head by giving protective cover to a belief system, that, by every known definition other than the courts' is not a religion, while simultaneously declaring public expressions of true religious faith to be prohibited," Fahling said.
Check your facts I wasn't the one initially discussing religion. Also, atheism is not a religion there are no ceremonies etc.it is a lack of any religion or mythological beliefs. As far as being on a soap box the odds of me convincing anyone to abandon there religion are slim and none. Religious types like to spew atheism is a religion it is in fact the lack of any belief in theism thus a= without, theism, religion.
Thanks for telling me I can drink what do you base that on? Everything I have read indicates the contrary. Tell me Guy and I will be delighted?
Thanks for telling me I can drink what do you base that on? Everything I have read indicates the contrary. Tell me Guy and I will be delighted?
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no kidding.
All I said was, and I admitted it was a generalization, that according to those I talked to,
INCLUDING muslims, that their own doctors lack of sterilization is the act that spread this disease in their populaces and why their rates of the disease is off the charts!
How saying OTHERS did this to them can be perceived as predudice is beyond me.
What I said was actually a statement in their DEFENSE...stating most of them did not do this to themselves.
It should also be a warning to us all.
Example: I told my doctor in 85 I want NO blood products due to AIDS (and no detection method for screening blood then.... and woke up with a bag of plasma in my arm..
This for a simple shoudler surgery where I barely bled.
this from a highly respected american doctor...so do I think a lot of people have been victimized by inept medical professional...you bet I do.
My problem was I did not get this in writing, and he did it in spite of my instructions.
Without proof in writing it was his word against mine that I told him NOT to do it.
And now I have HCV..
So I know how frustrated these people are with their doctors, I've been there.
Unfortunately, even today that risk exists everywhere.
Las Vegas had a lazy anesthesiologist this year infect hundreds, and a nurse this week from Colorado was in the news and she infected hundreds.
This is happening everywhere...STILL...in spite of all we know.
I'm done with this subject, and I apologize for my part in adding an adjuct to the subject.
My point, which was germaine to the actual issue in my mind at least, was that a lot of people worldwide are being made sick by bad drugs and bad medical practices!
mb
no kidding.
All I said was, and I admitted it was a generalization, that according to those I talked to,
INCLUDING muslims, that their own doctors lack of sterilization is the act that spread this disease in their populaces and why their rates of the disease is off the charts!
How saying OTHERS did this to them can be perceived as predudice is beyond me.
What I said was actually a statement in their DEFENSE...stating most of them did not do this to themselves.
It should also be a warning to us all.
Example: I told my doctor in 85 I want NO blood products due to AIDS (and no detection method for screening blood then.... and woke up with a bag of plasma in my arm..
This for a simple shoudler surgery where I barely bled.
this from a highly respected american doctor...so do I think a lot of people have been victimized by inept medical professional...you bet I do.
My problem was I did not get this in writing, and he did it in spite of my instructions.
Without proof in writing it was his word against mine that I told him NOT to do it.
And now I have HCV..
So I know how frustrated these people are with their doctors, I've been there.
Unfortunately, even today that risk exists everywhere.
Las Vegas had a lazy anesthesiologist this year infect hundreds, and a nurse this week from Colorado was in the news and she infected hundreds.
This is happening everywhere...STILL...in spite of all we know.
I'm done with this subject, and I apologize for my part in adding an adjuct to the subject.
My point, which was germaine to the actual issue in my mind at least, was that a lot of people worldwide are being made sick by bad drugs and bad medical practices!
mb
I'm not following either. My mom, the Muslim from Sweden....
Or .... Turkey.... the Muslim country in Europe, or Mali in Africa, etc... etc...
Or .... Turkey.... the Muslim country in Europe, or Mali in Africa, etc... etc...
So, reallly what you are saying is that Middle Easteners are or are not Muslims?
It was getting hard to follow there for a while.
I better check with my husband....the Jehovah's Witness from Lebannon.
Lebannon is in the Middle East, right?
It was getting hard to follow there for a while.
I better check with my husband....the Jehovah's Witness from Lebannon.
Lebannon is in the Middle East, right?
I have got to say that over the 2 years + I have been a member; I have seen a lot of threads take many twist and turns.
This is the first time I have seen one turn this fast, so someone can get on their Soap Box and claim their religion (Atheism).
I see no relevance to this thread just an opportunity.
This is the first time I have seen one turn this fast, so someone can get on their Soap Box and claim their religion (Atheism).
I see no relevance to this thread just an opportunity.
You can dink a beer anytime you want. Before you found out you had hep c you had a beer, right? What's the difference now? Just a bit of knowledge, that's all. What are you saving yourself for?
There is no correct God..the creator is who ever you percieve him too be...and that ok...it all leads to the main source of life...weare herer for a reason and one reason only
its called LOVE
its called LOVE
Who is the correct god Ganish, Thore, Oden , how many god's are there. Hindus just as fervently believe that there god is the one true god. Who are we to decide who is right and wrong? Some religions have multiple deities of various powers.
There is a creatorGod...Savoiur...whatever you want to call it...its just that over time,man has twisted it around for profit,just like everything else...the bible is proberly true if you take it witha agrain of salt...i do believe the bible has been edited by the devil himself
That was in poor taste and I apologize as Marx said religion is the opiate of the masses. Research the crusades talk to people like me who were emotionally abused by nuns. Told we we were stupid and would go to hell if we had sex or masturbated. Think of the countless thousands molested by priests and other persons of power then write me back. I think if you research with an open mind you will see my point though I say again I would fully support your right to believe in mythology after all mankind has throughout recorded history. I do believe all living things even cockroaches have a life force I just don't believe in an afterlife I wish I did then I wouldn't have to ponder the prospect of death as a direct result of the military utilizing non sterile techniques 37 years ago after being drafted it makes me extremely pissed. I am stage 1 grade 2 > 3 on the metavir scale otherwise I am in excellent shape, I can no longer even drink a beer with friends and family and that *****. Thank you for listening.
I think he's implying it's brainwashing for us feebs and the only thing that keeps us in order.
As a born again Christian I can only say I'm very sorry for us feebs that we are so strong willed we need such devices or we would really run the world (amuck but run it none the less).
As a born again Christian I can only say I'm very sorry for us feebs that we are so strong willed we need such devices or we would really run the world (amuck but run it none the less).
God bless you for that insightful post. But I have a question for you. You say ..."by my beliefs this is America and I as the president stated in his recent speech "nonbelievers" are just as American as believers and have inalienable rights to those beliefs". But you also say "Religion since I did not bring up the topic keeps the feeble minded from running amuck"
Well, which is it? The right to the beliefs or the cirticism of those beliefs?
Well, which is it? The right to the beliefs or the cirticism of those beliefs?
As far as comparing various civilizations what's the point. HCV can be contracted in a variety of means once again how and why you got it your religion or ethnic back ground are irrelevant. Religion since I did not bring up the topic keeps the feeble minded from running amuck. I will state you can believe whatever you want there are and will remain a variety of deities to choose from. I have been an atheist since I was 15 or so. To me religion in all its forms but, most especially fanatics, cause a great disservice to man kind and remember if you plan to become incensed by my beliefs this is America and I as the president stated in his recent speech "nonbelievers" are just as American as believers and have inalienable rights to those beliefs.
“Muslim countries (where smoking drugs is common but shooting is forbidden) have rates as high as 75-80% infected.”
Good grief; where on earth do you get your information?
I interpret this to mean that you’re referring to the general population? As far as I know, Egypt has the highest rate of HCV infection worldwide; this is gauged by HCV antibody results, not RNA results. I’ve seen figures as high as 16% of the general population quoted; and this is purportedly due to mass inoculations conducted by the government for schistosomiasis, not from IVDU.
Perhaps you can cite a resource or study to support your claim of 75-80%?
Bill
Good grief; where on earth do you get your information?
I interpret this to mean that you’re referring to the general population? As far as I know, Egypt has the highest rate of HCV infection worldwide; this is gauged by HCV antibody results, not RNA results. I’ve seen figures as high as 16% of the general population quoted; and this is purportedly due to mass inoculations conducted by the government for schistosomiasis, not from IVDU.
Perhaps you can cite a resource or study to support your claim of 75-80%?
Bill
You dont have to be smart to be rich...just a good liar and a thief works fine
This thread surely must be a lesson to us all. Do not aspire to be rich or a Muslim. Better yet do not aspire to be a rich Muslim.
Certainly both will cause immediate drug addiction for you.
Better to be a poor Christian living in a housing project.
Actually since religion is something only twisted for profit better to be an atheist living in a slum, you will grow happy and healthy and have no addiction or belief issues this way.
Comeon now guys, this thread certainly goes far far beyond any prejudices that people should be having in the year 2009. It seems like an awful lot of incorrect 'ASSumptions' to me
Certainly both will cause immediate drug addiction for you.
Better to be a poor Christian living in a housing project.
Actually since religion is something only twisted for profit better to be an atheist living in a slum, you will grow happy and healthy and have no addiction or belief issues this way.
Comeon now guys, this thread certainly goes far far beyond any prejudices that people should be having in the year 2009. It seems like an awful lot of incorrect 'ASSumptions' to me
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