Like Paso said, two to four weeks to kick in, so you better be thinking ahead. :) Don't know how long it takes to kick out, but maybe the same, maybe faster. I'm sure there's some tech stuff on the Procrit site or somewhere on this. If you're worried about taking too much, just do a weekly CBC and if your Hgb goes above your comfort level then go to every two weeks or every 10 days. You could do the converse, but then prepare to suffer a little if you misjudge.
-- Jim
why thank you cuteus i needed to be called archived
the grankids dont hardly do it enough
i will post a few next fri someone should start the file fri am If a post is not started i will
see ya all next fri
and chev the blonde jokes are short so blondes can remeber them
also fri fight songs are listed at hotheps
Sorry, didn't mean to exclude anyone. Just trying to get Jim's attention. Thanks for the input paso! Wow, with a 3 week leadtime, it makes it hard to guide the ship - like the tankers that take 5 miles or such nonsense to respond to a turn.
What's a non-anemic feeling, low hgb Goofy to do? Err on the side of caution and shoot away, I guess.
Trying to figure the troughs and dosing, etc - I think the procrit begins to have affect in 7-10 days, right? How long would you say until it's affects start to wither? And finally expire? Inquiring minds need to know :)
Jim I'm not, but I have an answer to your question. I give both shots the same night, with my doctor's blessing (Peg-Intron and Procrit).
Answer to something else you asked. It took almost 3 weeks for me to feel the benefits of Procrit.
I've often done one shot (Peg and Procrit)immediately after another and other times have done them on different days, all depending on my Procrit schedule.
Different days probably has the advantage of spacing the sides a little but the same day makes it easier to remember. It only gets a little complicated when you do your bloodwork.
Ideally, I have mine done on the "trough" day or day 6 so the values would be the least influenced by the shots. However, if your Procrit day is different from your Peg day, then you really have two trough days so I guess you pick the day which is more important for what you're looking for.
In other words, if anemia is the big problem, then do your CBC on day 6 of your Procrit shot, if ANC is the problem, then test on day 6 of your Peg shot. If both are a problem, you're kinda screwed anyway, so at this point who cares, you're probably feeling like sh*t anyway. :)
Glad you're getting the Procrit out of the frige...word is those tomatoes were getting kinda blushed.
-- Jim
Hey Jim, when you get a chance, another question I forgot on the procrit. I'm assuming I don't need to avoid injecting within 24 hrs of the peg. Would you agree?
Thanks and have a nice day.
You and me both, pal. Chronic or acute?
..maybe the 24/7 toxins...
Well I have been diagnosed with interior cranial rectalitis.
Have a nice weekend! You've shamed me into doing some work.
PS: Prom dresses coming off? What a pleasant metaphor. Thanks - I needed that.
Howdee do y'all !!
I just bopped in to say hello and wish everyone a good day...
I have been outside all day working in my flower beds, getting them ready to survive another cold and snowy sleep...I'm pooped! Don't have the energy and strenghth I used to have...
I'm off like a prom dress, see ya round like a donut :)
*to pooped to dip*
Jim. Hope you're feeling a bit better.
Thanks for the wishes on the RVR. I'm a 3a, so the 4 week RVR isn't the huge milestone it might be for a 1a. The thing is, I'm boarderline stage 4, so I really needed to hit a homerun coming out the gate to gain some advantage.
Those tomatoes are reddening up up nicley, thanks for the tip. It's always so hard to get that yellow-green pallor off this time of year - both from the tomatoes and the kid.
Anyway - the procit. Glad you bring it up. As expected, no effects from injection 1 yet, it's been 1 week. hgb is holding steady at 10.6-10.5. I feel pretty OK - not like the Strator machine, God knows, but I'm getting by going to my desk job, doing some chores, taking walks. The nurse has given me some latitude and I'm trying trying to space procrit injection 2. The question is how long each injection might last, before needing the next one to come on line. Does it take a week or 2 to start, then last 1 week - in which case weekly would seem appropriate - or does it last longer? I'm currently looking at a 10 day cycle. Does anyone space longer than a 1 week interval.
friole, In the voice of Cliff from Cheers: "It's a little known fact that chicken eggs are coated with a specialized clotting like protein that enables the egg to breath, while preventing bacteria from entering the shell. Thus, even unfertilized eggs can sit out for long periods without spoiling. Refrigeration disrupts the protein mechanism, and so once refrigerated, eggs must remain refrigerated." Don't know why ANYONE would care to know this, but now that it's typed I guess I'll leave it :) ....now off to find my Disney pocket protector.
wow just dropped in to catch up and see the friday funnies have been resurected If anyone wants i will add a fewnext friday eme at derailhcv at msn dot com
Congatulations on you 4-week PCR ! If you wanted good news I don't see how this could be any better.
Forgot all your statistics (I'm even forgetting mine these days :) ) but assuming you're an average geno 1, your chances of SVR has just zoomed from under 50% to maybe 80-90% depending who is talking. Frankly, I like the 90% number, it just sounds so sweet. The trick now of course is to stay on full meds if you can, so keep on top of your hemoglobin. And remember, Procrit in the fridge only raises the Hgb of your tomatoes.
-- Jim
THANK YOU for bringing a huge smile to my face so early in the morning. I appreciate your sense of humor, I appreciate being able to see "another side" of folks on here. We all have such a great "other side" and this board allows us to bring it out.
Wait until next Friday's funny. Think you're gonna like it.
Have a wonderful weekend, Floridians (that's me too) keep your eye on Wilma and be safe. Be smart, evac if you must.
God bless -
Carolyn
Mark, A few more thoughts. First, I should have said 800,000 is the cut-off between low and non-low. I would be wrong to label anything over 800,00 as high. The sleeping pill is Ambien (I absently added a T twice in a row) - and I think it's fairly pricey. Others here have mentioned being just a little creative with their symptoms as needed to get the med attention they need.
Strator,
"I'll be in the middle of a serious conversation with someone" Hmmmm. Interesting concept. Does this happen often?
"maybe the 24/7 toxins replicated them little virus babies faster than the liver could deteriorate." Now I've tipped my share over the years, but my friend, this is THE classic interpretation of all times! Pound 'em fast so the liver damage can't keep up. Gotta love it!
Have a great weekend buddy.
Participating here is a great move. And goofy is a precious pleasure. My dr and the nurse from the liver unit that runs a support group I go to -told me that VL #s can fluctuate on their own a lot. My last Pcr was a few months pre tx at 18million. I'm a 1a gr 2 stage 1-2. I don't know why I have a higher Vl but less damage than a lot of others(maybe someone does). I was a "professional drinker" etc for over 3 decades so maybe the 24/7 toxins replicated them little virus babies faster than the liver could deteriorate. In any event from what I've learned here and at the VA group is everyone reacts in their own way to the disease, clearing the disease, and the sides. Just so many variables. Find a balance between having all the info and stressing too much.
A suggestion on the exercise- I've been fortunate with sx too, I do have em and I do ache and drain out. HoweverI happen to do physical work most days, and am convinced that helps. It's stimulating which helps my attitude a lot. But pre tx there were days the fatigue was high and the motivation was low and I'd have a stretch of time without physical jobs, sometimes to concentrate on my art. I got in the habit of adding things in small amouts throughout the day. A few pushups or twists while i cooked or watched tv. Anything, hand squeezes, stretching to tap the doorjam a few times, twisting, stretching & turning, all day long(unless I was napping). Nothing intimidating just move your body a little even while your doing nothing. It adds up and eventually you're doing more without thinking about it.
Congratulations on your 4 week PCR! Very nice. Good luck. Mike
LOL funny! I like the KY and the whistling doc.....that would've made me crack up on my gyno too!
Sincerely,
Dana
Yeah derail, I was telling them about you, and the fact that you are now archived!
the good thing is that the needed threads are all labeled either Friday fight song or friday funnies, so they should be easy to extract if someone has the time, archives seem to go as far as 2000, so there should be a lot of Friday fight songs listed.
Plus, I think Kim has a website of them somewhere. He stated once that he did not mind if we posted his songs. It would be nice once in a while.
I wonder how he is, he did not sound well the last time he posted.
You all are scary! Don't know how ya do it but lately I'll be in the middle of a serious conversation with someone and burst out laughing from a flash of some of the lines you throw out. Or worse-At work I was in a tiny attic crawl space sitting on a piece of scrapwood balanced across the rafters. My boss/uncle was drilling up through the ceiling and I was listening and watching to make sure he came up in the right place. Old hat.
drill, drill, drill
Him-How's that?
Me- I heard it but I don't see it
Him-I thought I went through.I'll drill more.
Me-Eggs come in grades, fibro.......Holy #@$#$# STOP!you just came through my seat! Thank God for wallets!
Goof-GGGGGGGRRRRRReeeeeeeeeaaaaaaat -weekend -Nice Feel?
Go BABY Go!!
Thanks everybody for the info and good ideas. Thats why I like this place. Besides the wealth of knowledge there is always someone not doing too good which is unfortunate but makes you feel lucky and fortunate yourself. There is someone doing great which gives you hope, and someone that just downright makes you smile with their sense of humor. You gota love it. Mark
Hi Mark!
Great that you're joining in. Welcome. I'm pretty new here myself, but I've developed into a pretty prolific poster I'm afraid. To the pleasure of some and no doubt the dismay of others. Folks tolerate me, and I appreciate that. As you know this is a great place to sort of get grounded in your journey.
I think I like your doc. He sounds like a nice guy, and to me that
This it too funny and really hits the spot.
Mark - to find out the 2 log drop, just multiply your beginning vl times .01 (1%) So 4,000,000 x .01 = 40,000 - that's the number you are shooting for. You are doing great and do have a good team and a good plan.
Jim - too funny about the hgb of the tomatoes in the fridge. I am going to the store to pick up my neupogen in a minute so I guess it can keep the ANC of my eggs up for awhile. (they come in grades, ya know)
Derail - I can hardly wait til next Friday.