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Hep C/Depression/Treatment

Hi All,

I have a question for you all. I am eligible for Gilead's help with meds. I was told I need to be genotyped and a viral load test. I know that some of the treatments can cause depression, suicidal ideation, etc. I have a history of depression. In 1997, I was tested for hepatitis C. I am positive. The doctor told me I had 2 to 5 years to live and to get my things in order. I had a child in school. I was devastated. I think all of us with this chronic illness have encountered depression. My question is this: can a doctor refuse to allow treatment because of a history of (controlled) depression? I have a great support system and I'm in therapy for the first time in my long life. I spoke to a nurse who works for a GI/hepatologist last week. She told me that the doctor she works for has refused treatment to those who have a history of depression. I've been reading through HIPPA laws. You can request that your doctor share only the "minimal necessary" as far as records.

Has anyone encountered this particular situation?

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766573 tn?1365170066

Hepatitis C isn't really the kind of condition what is referred to as being positive. I mean maybe it was a long time ago. It just sounds odd to hear that expression in relation to HCV. So much has changed since 1997.

How would Gilead be able to offer assistance without knowing your Genotype?

Either way now might be a good time to go back to the beginning and get genotyped and find out your viral load. It seems like there are some pieces of the story missing.

☞ What was the basis for only having 2 to 5 years to live? If you were told that in 1997 you have obviously disproven that prediction

☞ What stage of fibrosis are you? ☚

Your depression is controlled so I am not sure if you would encounter problems when you treat. On the other hand we do not know your genotype but since you are treating with newer meds depression might not be as big of an issue. Still it would help to know your genotype since there are could be a few possibilities of the meds you might take.

I went on an AD (anti depressant) prior to treatment since I was concerned about depression and in my case it helped tremendously. Plus, the support on here was phenomenal. I treated 48 weeks and I do not know how I would have made it if it weren't for the forum.

Depression ended up not being the issue as much as being scared and feeling isolated since no one in my personal life really understood what I was going through.

I think the more you learn about the virus and the meds the less vulnerable you will feel and the more confident you will feel about treatment and your ability to handle whatever comes your way. If you were diagnosed in 1997 now might be a good time to think about treating (if you need to) since LOTS has changed as far as the meds are concerned. They are way less harsh and treatment durations are shorter. Still, it would be helpful to know your genotype before anything more concrete can be said.
1815939 tn?1377995399
Welcome to the forum.

I agree with Idyllic that there are some pieces missing from your medical history and some of it is not clear.

It is not clear what is meant by "positive." Are you sure you have Chronic Hepatitis C or do you just have the antibodies (which are referred to as being positive of negative).

If you do have Hepatitis C, then you do need to be Genotyped and you do need to find out what your current viral load is. You will also need other baseline testing and you will need to find out what stage of liver fibrosis you have.

I would recommend finding a Hepatologist at a large university affiliated medical center. He/she will be up to date on the most current treatments. There are several new treatments out and more to come in the next few months, so you want to treat with a doctor who is knowledgeable and competent.

I don't know why the doctors would be refusing Hepatitis C treatment for people with Depression. Interferon can cause Depression but you won't be using Interferon. There are Interferon free treatments available. Even with Interferon treatments, the doctors treated people with Depression unless they were very unstable or suicidal. I have a long history of Depression and I treated in 2011-2012 for 48 weeks with Interferon, Ribavirin, and Incivek. I did fine. I was already on an antidepressant prior to treatment and I had absolutely no problems with Depression during treatment. I am now off the antidepressant and doing fine. I am also cured of Hep C. But, bottom line, the new treatments are Interferon free so you would not be on Interferon.

I would just keep looking for a doctor who will treat you. And, as I said, I would get a Hepatologist at a large university affiliated medical center. Surely there must be a Hepatologist in Dallas who will treat you.

Wishing you the best.
446474 tn?1446351282
"Has anyone encountered this particular situation? "

In the past when all treatments used interferon someone having a history of clinical depression was commonly put on antidepressants before starting treatment to avoid treatment induced depression.

Fortunately there are now interferon-free treatments for all common genotypes so people don't have to deal with the many possible side effects  caused by the use of interferon to treat hepatitis C. For this reason and many others involving effectiveness and safety interferon is phased out so no one needs to ever treat with such a toxic drug again.

Many of us have treated with interferon and are glad never have to treat with it again.
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So a history of clinical depression is no longer a contraindication to getting treatment for hepatitis C.

There are many very good doctors (hepatologists and gastroenterologists) in the Dallas area who are educated and experienced in the latest interferon free treatments. I would suggest finding one of these doctors and steering clear of the other ignorant lot who still think depression and hep C treatment is an issue or don't know that there is treatments for clinical depression as well.

Good luck treating your hepatitis C.
Hector
1815939 tn?1377995399
We had a thead on the forum that listed good Hepatologists and GIs. Here is what one of our members said about her doctor in Dallas:

"I will add Dr Abdullah Mubarak of the Liver Institute at Methodist Hospital in Dallas.  The Liver Institute is a transplant center and he is a hepatologist.  I have been under his care for this treatment with the PIs. "

So you could try getting an appt. with Dr. Mubarek at the Liver Institute at Methodist Hospital in Dallas.
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Hello, just wanted to tell you that my history of mild depression was a reason for me to treat with Solvaldi and Olysio. I am 1A and with depression you do not have to treat with the older treatments that tend to have depression as  side effect because it could make your depression worse. So I think it was a good thing to get my treatment with the least side effects and my info was sent to the drug companies to verify the reason for treatment with the newer treatments. A Doctor should never tell you to get your affairs in order with the new medicines out to treat hep c now. I think you should look for another doctor that might have a better bedside manner.
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I have not experienced this myself, but on one of the threads onthos Forum someone said how to get a letter from your Psychr or psycho for you Hep Dr to send as justification for using the 'newer' meds - anf that was not even for the ones coming out in late Fall/early winter.

Please look through the old threads to see if you can find it----or maybe someone with that experience will post it again here.

I agree with all above, you need a new, really good specialist.

Hope this helps!  DON'T believe that doctor!  Hang in ther and keep on keeping on!!!  Treatment is too close to defeating this dragon forever.  Pat
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