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IV ozone therapy Hepatitis C 100% effective in irradicating for good?
Hepatitis C - IV ozone therapy over 6 treatments 100% effective in irradicating for good?
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Sometimes online it's so hard to know when someone is serious and when they are being sarcastic.
Thanks for clarifying:)
Thanks for clarifying:)
I think some may have misread my intention in my post. It was meant to highlight the futility of trying to persuade those who are inclined to believe these sorts of cures that they are, in fact, a waste of time and money. Time and money that could probably be put to better use. The best this sort of therapy can do is give hope to those who need it, if only temporarily.
What is it called when you say one thing but really mean the other, sarcasm??
What is it called when you say one thing but really mean the other, sarcasm??
I don't think it's wise to suggest things like colloidal silver and ozone
therapy to desperate people when there is a cure, for many, difficult
as it may be.
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.......... and OH... very well said.
therapy to desperate people when there is a cure, for many, difficult
as it may be.
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.......... and OH... very well said.
Yes, dad sure showed them. And he died of cancer.
I'm in favor of anything that makes people feel better. However after watching a friend spend thousands on ways to cure her incurable cancer, I don't think it's wise to suggest things like colloidal silver and ozone therapy to desperate people when there is a cure, for many, difficult as it may be.
I'm in favor of anything that makes people feel better. However after watching a friend spend thousands on ways to cure her incurable cancer, I don't think it's wise to suggest things like colloidal silver and ozone therapy to desperate people when there is a cure, for many, difficult as it may be.
Ozone therapy works wonders. If not in clinical trials then at least in the mind of the true believer.
My father had cancer but died before the ozone could cure him. He bought an ozone device and used it every day. He said it was working. He also took colloidal silver and placed selenite and fluorite crystals into a pouch and wore it over his cancer (intestinal). Oh, and he wore an ionized bracelet, just to be sure. The doctors told him he was incurable, he sure showed them!
Ozone therapy devices sell for lots of money, we were able to sell ours (after my father died from cancer) to a local health spa owner for half of what we paid for it! There seems to be plenty of people who swear by these sort of things so the spa owner got a real great deal.
My father had cancer but died before the ozone could cure him. He bought an ozone device and used it every day. He said it was working. He also took colloidal silver and placed selenite and fluorite crystals into a pouch and wore it over his cancer (intestinal). Oh, and he wore an ionized bracelet, just to be sure. The doctors told him he was incurable, he sure showed them!
Ozone therapy devices sell for lots of money, we were able to sell ours (after my father died from cancer) to a local health spa owner for half of what we paid for it! There seems to be plenty of people who swear by these sort of things so the spa owner got a real great deal.
To quote a wise person baa baaa baaa.
And also bueller...bueller....................
Please new people do NOT buy into this stuff. Really. If it was that easy do you NOT think the rest of us would not have done it? a few people trying to sell you on an idea over 100000s of us telling the truth?
Go big pharma, thank you for saving my life.
And also bueller...bueller....................
Please new people do NOT buy into this stuff. Really. If it was that easy do you NOT think the rest of us would not have done it? a few people trying to sell you on an idea over 100000s of us telling the truth?
Go big pharma, thank you for saving my life.
I friend tried to interest me in this therapy before I began treatment. I have a pretty open mind and may have tried it out of desperation. However, everything I read about it indicated that though it initially killed the virus, the virus always returned shortly after. What's the point?
I am sympathetic to people who don't want to use interferon even though it is successful for many people. I believe it will become less and less of an issue as the new orals move in to replace the standard treatments.
Geez, what will we argue about then? :-)
I am sympathetic to people who don't want to use interferon even though it is successful for many people. I believe it will become less and less of an issue as the new orals move in to replace the standard treatments.
Geez, what will we argue about then? :-)
Clinical data. Clinical. interferon did not kill me in fact is killed the virus quiet efficiently. but no I wouldn't believe this nonesense ozone stuff worked in a million years.
interferon can kill too.
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Some members currently treating with or waiting to treat with Interferon may read this "broad based blanket statement and worry or hesitate to treat because of such
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Could you please post the data and all clinically exposed circumstances where this definitively occurred for members perusal
Thanks...
Will
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Some members currently treating with or waiting to treat with Interferon may read this "broad based blanket statement and worry or hesitate to treat because of such
..
Could you please post the data and all clinically exposed circumstances where this definitively occurred for members perusal
Thanks...
Will
I have also found and read studies that support the dangers of ozone therapy, which I also support - it and can be extremely dangerous. I gave up on it, despite being not eligible for tx. But, each to their own; interferon can kill too.
It saddens me that sometimes on this site posters who are just trying to stay alive get slammed in brutal and personal ways, when they're already ill, and maybe do not have the same choices and medical care as others.
I just hope some of the rudeness is the same riba-rave-produced rambles that we do often have to forgive each other for.
It saddens me that sometimes on this site posters who are just trying to stay alive get slammed in brutal and personal ways, when they're already ill, and maybe do not have the same choices and medical care as others.
I just hope some of the rudeness is the same riba-rave-produced rambles that we do often have to forgive each other for.
The description of your experience was very similar to the man I hired the ozone machine from. He was unable to treat and was on the transplant list. The transplant team monitored his bloods, knowing that he was using ozone, and while he didn't get rid of the virus, like you the damage to his liver slowed, his alt/ast's normalised and he was able to function well again. It was a very time consuming process; although he said; after the initial 5 months of daily insuffilations he was able to do it less regularly to maintain.
I was unable to get conventional tx at the time (relapsed once and was not treatment naive), which is why I tried it.
I wasn't given good instructions on how to use it, and after a quick one hour instruction had this bubbling machine in my back room. I tried, and did feel better, but it is dangerous in the wrong hands, and my inexperienced hands should not have tried it by myself.
It was interesting that the European doctor (when I was admitted to hospital overnight after breathing in ozone), did not treat me like a complete idiot. My oxgyen levels were 98% and my CO2/O2 balance in my lungs had been compromised from the direct ozone. The.nurse didn't know how to stop me hyperventilating and cramping - strangely low dose oxygen calmed me down. The doctor knew of the talk of trials being done in Europe and knew enough of what 'raw ozone' could to to my lungs to treat me. That was in 2007. A quick google search shows there have been trials done since then, although in such early days, I suspect the newer non-interferon drugs will hit the general market prior to ozone being universally embraced. AAnd here's hoping those drugs can be given to all HCV patients, regardless of advanced liver damage.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21417811
My naturopath here offered injectable ozone and had a registered nurse give the treatment, but I was simply to scared to have it injected. My liver was 'early cirrhosis' and I did eventually get the opportunity to successfuly treat with interferon..
I'd hate anyone to have the experience I did with Ozone, but I applaud those who, with little other choices, put so much research and effort to maintain or hopefully rid themselves of HVC in whatever way possible, for themselves and their families. I wish you well!!
I was unable to get conventional tx at the time (relapsed once and was not treatment naive), which is why I tried it.
I wasn't given good instructions on how to use it, and after a quick one hour instruction had this bubbling machine in my back room. I tried, and did feel better, but it is dangerous in the wrong hands, and my inexperienced hands should not have tried it by myself.
It was interesting that the European doctor (when I was admitted to hospital overnight after breathing in ozone), did not treat me like a complete idiot. My oxgyen levels were 98% and my CO2/O2 balance in my lungs had been compromised from the direct ozone. The.nurse didn't know how to stop me hyperventilating and cramping - strangely low dose oxygen calmed me down. The doctor knew of the talk of trials being done in Europe and knew enough of what 'raw ozone' could to to my lungs to treat me. That was in 2007. A quick google search shows there have been trials done since then, although in such early days, I suspect the newer non-interferon drugs will hit the general market prior to ozone being universally embraced. AAnd here's hoping those drugs can be given to all HCV patients, regardless of advanced liver damage.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21417811
My naturopath here offered injectable ozone and had a registered nurse give the treatment, but I was simply to scared to have it injected. My liver was 'early cirrhosis' and I did eventually get the opportunity to successfuly treat with interferon..
I'd hate anyone to have the experience I did with Ozone, but I applaud those who, with little other choices, put so much research and effort to maintain or hopefully rid themselves of HVC in whatever way possible, for themselves and their families. I wish you well!!
"and after a full month, I went to have a complete CDC blood test done, AST and ALT were the low end of Normal, not elevated at all... "
Interesting that your AST & ALT would have been elevated at all having decompensated cirrhosis and basically on your death bed. Were you experiencing symptoms of ESLD? Hepatic encephalopathy, variceal bleeding, swollen abdomen, hypersplenism, ademia? Also, either you have the virus or you don't and the terms active or inactive do not apply. Without a detectable viral load there is no virus to attack the liver but once the virus returns which it will do if it not completely eradicated the liver will come under attack again, regardless of how high or low the viral load.
Appreciate you sharing your experience but I find ozone treatment too far fetched and a dangerous under taking, particularly for those who have cirrhosis. It does not cure HCV and let's say for sake of arguement it does stave off HCV, at some point the virus will return and it's going to get you, one way or the other.
Interesting that your AST & ALT would have been elevated at all having decompensated cirrhosis and basically on your death bed. Were you experiencing symptoms of ESLD? Hepatic encephalopathy, variceal bleeding, swollen abdomen, hypersplenism, ademia? Also, either you have the virus or you don't and the terms active or inactive do not apply. Without a detectable viral load there is no virus to attack the liver but once the virus returns which it will do if it not completely eradicated the liver will come under attack again, regardless of how high or low the viral load.
Appreciate you sharing your experience but I find ozone treatment too far fetched and a dangerous under taking, particularly for those who have cirrhosis. It does not cure HCV and let's say for sake of arguement it does stave off HCV, at some point the virus will return and it's going to get you, one way or the other.
Each to their own view, but for the sake of speaking my own truth here about my experiences with using ozone therapy to treatment my end stage HCV, which my primary doctor told me that 6 mos. or less to live, and that I should get my affairs in order and I was considered untreatable, advanced into the late 4th stage..I was very weak back then in the spring of 2009..in a wheel chair type of sick... So what was I too do.. just roll over and give up?
Here's what I did, I got busy doing research, when I came to mms..miracles mineral solution... did 8 doses of that every day for about 3 months, felt better overall and got much of my energy back, and it did help bring down my high ALT counts, but it just wasn't the ticket I was hoping for to hammer down the virus altogether... then I came across ozone, managed to get together the bucks and got my own equipment & supplies, for the Russian IV protocol using 60 ug/ml ozone Saline drip in a 500 ml. bubblier, with an IV drip rate of 60 drips per min. Had a nurse friend that would come over 2, sometimes 3 times per wk. to hook me up for the ozone treatments..
It was slow going at first, changes were gradual with each treatment, as I had to set a cycle for myself in-between treatments to clear out massive toxins, from all the virals that the ozone was killing, Wheatgrass tablets helped the best as a blood cleanser and purifier..
About 2 to 3 weeks into my ozone treatments I noticed the increasing energy and sense of being normal again.. and after a full month, I went to have a complete CDC blood test done, AST and ALT were the low end of Normal, not elevated at all...
My second month I bought a bicycle and started going for a ride after each treatment, then my wife got a bike too so we could both go cycling around... I not only felt my old self back, but felt 30 years younger..
My 3 month taking ozone 2 to 3 times a wk. not only did I gain 25 lbs back, but I was experiencing more energy than I had for a very long time...sure didn't feel like I was in my 60's at all...so I jumped in and built a large green house to grow our own veggies in..
After I had over 70 treatments I stopped taking ozone treatments all together... as I was convinced that I no longer had the big deadly C anymore...
Sorry to say... I should have confirmed it with getting an RNA test done for viral loads & antibody test to separate the active/inactive virus before stopping totally... I was still going well 6 months after I'd stopped, but about a year later, I knew that I just didn't have the zest of energy that I had before...that's when I went for an RNA test...and sure enough, my viral loads had come back and was just over 1 million at that time...meanwhile my nurse friend had retired and moved..
Here it is another year.. late October of 2012, and I am finally getting back to taking ozone treatments again.. Over the last 2 years, I've learned that the ideal treatment with ozone/saline treatment, is to do one IV treatment per day for the first 2 wks and add an ozone anal treatment to help reinforce the initial clean out of the virus, then drop back to 3 to 4 treatments per wk., still reinforcing with an addition daily anal dose of ozone over the next 90 days or until the RNA confirms that their is no positive virals let that are active.. Geno types that are not 1a normally are cleared before the 90 period, and approx. 80% of the case studies of 1a patients are cleared within the 90 day period too.. some may take up to 6 months or longer to become cleared with severe 4th stage HCV in the 1a category...
I'm just quoting what I've read about the case studies that has been done with this protocol.... so factually, I can only say what I've experienced personally with using the Russian protocol to treat my own so called "late 4th stage Hep C".
Don't expect over night easy or quick recovery, even with ozone, it does take devotion and "work" to rebuilt and recover from years of abuse to the body.. along with true life changes...such as diet, eating "Living energy" instead of dead foods..
As I said, each to their own thoughts and views....I'm just sharing my personal experiences here. God bless and Good health to all..
Here's what I did, I got busy doing research, when I came to mms..miracles mineral solution... did 8 doses of that every day for about 3 months, felt better overall and got much of my energy back, and it did help bring down my high ALT counts, but it just wasn't the ticket I was hoping for to hammer down the virus altogether... then I came across ozone, managed to get together the bucks and got my own equipment & supplies, for the Russian IV protocol using 60 ug/ml ozone Saline drip in a 500 ml. bubblier, with an IV drip rate of 60 drips per min. Had a nurse friend that would come over 2, sometimes 3 times per wk. to hook me up for the ozone treatments..
It was slow going at first, changes were gradual with each treatment, as I had to set a cycle for myself in-between treatments to clear out massive toxins, from all the virals that the ozone was killing, Wheatgrass tablets helped the best as a blood cleanser and purifier..
About 2 to 3 weeks into my ozone treatments I noticed the increasing energy and sense of being normal again.. and after a full month, I went to have a complete CDC blood test done, AST and ALT were the low end of Normal, not elevated at all...
My second month I bought a bicycle and started going for a ride after each treatment, then my wife got a bike too so we could both go cycling around... I not only felt my old self back, but felt 30 years younger..
My 3 month taking ozone 2 to 3 times a wk. not only did I gain 25 lbs back, but I was experiencing more energy than I had for a very long time...sure didn't feel like I was in my 60's at all...so I jumped in and built a large green house to grow our own veggies in..
After I had over 70 treatments I stopped taking ozone treatments all together... as I was convinced that I no longer had the big deadly C anymore...
Sorry to say... I should have confirmed it with getting an RNA test done for viral loads & antibody test to separate the active/inactive virus before stopping totally... I was still going well 6 months after I'd stopped, but about a year later, I knew that I just didn't have the zest of energy that I had before...that's when I went for an RNA test...and sure enough, my viral loads had come back and was just over 1 million at that time...meanwhile my nurse friend had retired and moved..
Here it is another year.. late October of 2012, and I am finally getting back to taking ozone treatments again.. Over the last 2 years, I've learned that the ideal treatment with ozone/saline treatment, is to do one IV treatment per day for the first 2 wks and add an ozone anal treatment to help reinforce the initial clean out of the virus, then drop back to 3 to 4 treatments per wk., still reinforcing with an addition daily anal dose of ozone over the next 90 days or until the RNA confirms that their is no positive virals let that are active.. Geno types that are not 1a normally are cleared before the 90 period, and approx. 80% of the case studies of 1a patients are cleared within the 90 day period too.. some may take up to 6 months or longer to become cleared with severe 4th stage HCV in the 1a category...
I'm just quoting what I've read about the case studies that has been done with this protocol.... so factually, I can only say what I've experienced personally with using the Russian protocol to treat my own so called "late 4th stage Hep C".
Don't expect over night easy or quick recovery, even with ozone, it does take devotion and "work" to rebuilt and recover from years of abuse to the body.. along with true life changes...such as diet, eating "Living energy" instead of dead foods..
As I said, each to their own thoughts and views....I'm just sharing my personal experiences here. God bless and Good health to all..
Because they are not researchers and readers they blindly follow the allopathic MD's and Big Pharma
If you would do your own research and reading you would not have to be
asking this question of someone else
98% of Americans are Sheep!
If you would do your own research and reading you would not have to be
asking this question of someone else
98% of Americans are Sheep!
Prior to waiting to be eligible for my second last tx, I got hold of an ozone machine and met a man who was successfully using it. He believed the ozone tx had kept him alive, lowered his viral load and normalised his ALT's (it hadn't eradicated the virus but had stopped the damage), and the transplant team were continuing to monitor him; his prognosis for transplant was not great. The naturopath I saw was also involved in giving IV ozone, but both of us were too scared to go there. It is very dangerous stuff and while I endorsed the theory, the machine bubbling away in my back room was a bit beyond me.
Long story short, the anal and vaginal insuffilations took some time daily to complete and the ozone was being 'made' on the spot. One had to be very careful to put everything together without breathing ozone direct, which I unwittingly did. I ended up in hospital hyperventilating with 100% oxygen in my blood and with my lungs having trouble with the carbondioxide mix; I was lucky I didn't do permanent lung damage...... and ended up too scared to use the machine again. My ALT/AST's which were just hovering above normal shot up three-fold because of my error.
The gent's brother chose to do the normal tx rather than the ozone and managed to gain SVR, but I can understand those unable or not qualifying for tx to be drooling over being able to get hold of this type of tx. It's great to see there is research being done (thanks il_editore) under medical supervision. (the doctor at the ER was intrigued with me trying it myself :-(!) - I was lucky a European Dr was there, and knew what to do with me - the nurse was gobsmacked).
Long story short, the anal and vaginal insuffilations took some time daily to complete and the ozone was being 'made' on the spot. One had to be very careful to put everything together without breathing ozone direct, which I unwittingly did. I ended up in hospital hyperventilating with 100% oxygen in my blood and with my lungs having trouble with the carbondioxide mix; I was lucky I didn't do permanent lung damage...... and ended up too scared to use the machine again. My ALT/AST's which were just hovering above normal shot up three-fold because of my error.
The gent's brother chose to do the normal tx rather than the ozone and managed to gain SVR, but I can understand those unable or not qualifying for tx to be drooling over being able to get hold of this type of tx. It's great to see there is research being done (thanks il_editore) under medical supervision. (the doctor at the ER was intrigued with me trying it myself :-(!) - I was lucky a European Dr was there, and knew what to do with me - the nurse was gobsmacked).
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