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Riba rage
I would really like to discuss this issue. I am having some big problems with this. I am fine one minute, but if I get upset I go from being fine to being NUTS. It's like there is no in between anymore, I don't stop and think it through, I just Talk, sometimes and talk and talk, sometimes a whole lot of sh***t.
I have worked very hard to NOT be this way for many years. It scares me to have mouth diarrhea again after all these years of recovery. BTW, I am on a high dose of an AD, but my shrink does not recommend any other meds because they might make me have MORE headaches and stomach problems.
What are you guys going through with this? What do you do to help yourself? My 11 year old grandson says sometimes I remind him of him!!
For me, this emotional roller coaster is by far the worst side.
Any suggestions?
ps - is it really the riba that causes this?
I have worked very hard to NOT be this way for many years. It scares me to have mouth diarrhea again after all these years of recovery. BTW, I am on a high dose of an AD, but my shrink does not recommend any other meds because they might make me have MORE headaches and stomach problems.
What are you guys going through with this? What do you do to help yourself? My 11 year old grandson says sometimes I remind him of him!!
For me, this emotional roller coaster is by far the worst side.
Any suggestions?
ps - is it really the riba that causes this?
Between ex-husband, teenage kids, aged parent, another that just died and a boyfriend whose gonna know first-hand real soon just exactly what tx is all about, my head feels like it's gonna pop. But I still think I'll try and go up from 600mg riba to 800 before this thing (hopefully) ends in May. I know klonapin is addicting and I'm actually trying to lower methadone now. I wonder if I should tuff it out or wind up in prison. Thx for ur input. cindy
I take klonapin. Even tho I'm done w/ the 48 wk rat poision...LOL..I still take it. I take 1mg 4x a day. I can't "feel" any relaxing effects....it just takes the edge off, so I no it's working. As for the rage I took zyprexa....it really worked well. I didn't have to take it everyday. It came in 15 mg pills and my shrink told me to take 1/2 a pill each day. She gave me samples...and I still have a few left. They also helped me to sleep.
Girl, I got into it w/ a sherriff one day!!!! I had dropped my 10 yr old gdaughter off at the only enterance to a grocery store, so I could keep an eye on her. I was too tired, and I also had on my PJ's....she was going in to get her some ice-cream. I had my car running and I was very aware I was parked in a fire lane. He told me to move my car, I yelled out the window that I wasn't parked..I was just stopped. He said if you're not driving a firetruck, you must move. So I just did a U turn in front of him and stopped in the traveling lane! He drove off jst shaking his head!!!!! It is a wonder we all don't end up in jail!!!! LOL You take care and check on Zyprexa and Klonapin. Best wishes and many prayers, Cindee
ps When I was on tx I was really mad @ my husband for something he had done...he told me I was acting like a b****. Well it seemed like less than a second, and I had thrown my favorite glass on the floor and broke it and then WHAM! I had slapped his face and I broke his tooth!!! He said...that hurt! He apologized to ME!!!! He said, it's the meds...it's not you. The broken tooth set us back 400.00. This is the only thing I did on tx that I truely am ashamed of, so I know where you are coming from!
Girl, I got into it w/ a sherriff one day!!!! I had dropped my 10 yr old gdaughter off at the only enterance to a grocery store, so I could keep an eye on her. I was too tired, and I also had on my PJ's....she was going in to get her some ice-cream. I had my car running and I was very aware I was parked in a fire lane. He told me to move my car, I yelled out the window that I wasn't parked..I was just stopped. He said if you're not driving a firetruck, you must move. So I just did a U turn in front of him and stopped in the traveling lane! He drove off jst shaking his head!!!!! It is a wonder we all don't end up in jail!!!! LOL You take care and check on Zyprexa and Klonapin. Best wishes and many prayers, Cindee
ps When I was on tx I was really mad @ my husband for something he had done...he told me I was acting like a b****. Well it seemed like less than a second, and I had thrown my favorite glass on the floor and broke it and then WHAM! I had slapped his face and I broke his tooth!!! He said...that hurt! He apologized to ME!!!! He said, it's the meds...it's not you. The broken tooth set us back 400.00. This is the only thing I did on tx that I truely am ashamed of, so I know where you are coming from!
I was never on AD's and probably should have been years ago. I guess I always was a self-prescriber for my own anxiety and anger. Probably how I got into this whole situation to begin with. Since starting on tx I've given everyone I ever wanted to a piece of my mind. Man that felt great. Hey it's what I always felt anyway and (so far) I'm not sorry. But the other day I got into a road rage incident where me and the other girl both got out of our cars ready to throw down. When she went to drive off I kicked the door of her truck as she tryed to pass me. I'm glad I didn't damage her nice truck as I'm so weak now she probably could have kicked my a** but I was nuts. She started it though. When she got out to see the damage she put it into reverse not park and started rolling down the street. She managed to jump back in and hit the brake. I think it's time to up my Xanax but I had tryed Buspar once but I think it caused liver damage. Anybody know a good anti-anxiety?
I see most people getting put on AD's. I wonder if everyone on AD's is prone to depression or did you take them because your doc recommended them? I am curious about this. I saw 3 docs and not one recommended I take AD's. LL
I'll tell you another thing I didn't mention it gives me ALOT more enrgy besides keeping my temper under control- when I had weaned off I was so tired, I'd fall asleep at work- when I started back on them BAM- my energy level shot up and is still up, I could have gone through tx without ad's sure, but I'd be divorced right now, and in jail for killing my bosses at work,- Harley Dude
I never used AD's. But I was already nuts to start with. I made it through just fine without them. Researching the meds and the potantial sides and then telling everyone around me what to watch for helped. I did withdraw quite a bit but I was expecting this so I wasn't surprised and knew it was just the meds. I used the laughter as my personal AD all the way through. There is a chemical basis that made this an alternative for me. I read a LOT about it and the chemical imbalance caused by the meds is "directly" counteracted by the chemicals released when we laugh.....I mean REALLY laugh. I forced myself to laugh all the time. Of course, this just convinced the folks around me that I really WAS nuts....but who cares what they think?
I think that AD's are way overprescribed in the U.S.
I think that AD's are way overprescribed in the U.S.
I don't know if not needing ads during tx is rare, they automatically put people on them, so how can they keep data on who would have actually needed them? And who could have done ok without?
The few weeks I spent in a dark mood, and the couple of months of irritability(aggravated by the anemia) was not motivating enough to ingest ad's for a year.
It's like when they wanted my daughter to ingest Singulair daily, 365 days , to prevent a mild asthma attack that occurs maybe two weeks in a year, and no one can guarantee you will not get depression (or asthma) while taking these. The sx from the ads (which I had in 1996) were unacceptable to me.
I still believe much of the irritability came from the low RBC and the chronic aches I was feeling, I based it on the fact that I no longer feel that way 38 shots later, no ads, and no bouncing off the walls. And depression and mental illness is present in my family.
be well all
The few weeks I spent in a dark mood, and the couple of months of irritability(aggravated by the anemia) was not motivating enough to ingest ad's for a year.
It's like when they wanted my daughter to ingest Singulair daily, 365 days , to prevent a mild asthma attack that occurs maybe two weeks in a year, and no one can guarantee you will not get depression (or asthma) while taking these. The sx from the ads (which I had in 1996) were unacceptable to me.
I still believe much of the irritability came from the low RBC and the chronic aches I was feeling, I based it on the fact that I no longer feel that way 38 shots later, no ads, and no bouncing off the walls. And depression and mental illness is present in my family.
be well all
I started off with 20mg. paxil and it worked for a couple of months and I started getting frustrated very easily at work, so my GI increased it to 40mg and It worked fine until around the 6th month Dr. Harley Dude decided he was going to wean himself off of paxil cause I didn't think I needed it anymore (mind you I'm doing all this on my own) about 2 months went by and I was off of them- didn't really realize it but I was a Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hide- I would loose my temper so quickly, and after feel so stupid acting like I did- still not really realizing I really needed those AD's. I hadn't even told my wife, and then one day she said did you stop your AD's, because you are becoming unbearable- then it hit me- I better get back on my Paxil. I took my copegus that night and a 40mg of paxil and the next day I was like another person - Hey these AD's REALLY help with the Riba Rage, I would advise anyone on tx to take some sort of AD, unless you are one of the very rare ones that don't need it. PS- I fired Dr. Harley Dude.
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When I went through riba rage, my doctor prescribed ZYPREXA...it comes in 15mg tablets that I was told to cut in half....I only had to take 1/2 of a tablet a day. It really worked for me. Please go to "thyroid" post. You will find my up-date. I found out today....I RELAPSED!. Oh well, life goes on. I love you very much!!!!! Cindee
Riba Rage....OH YEAH.........I had that BAD for awhile. I found myself going from glad to MAD in about 3 seconds at times. I could actually feel it comming but was powerless to stop it when it happened. I never came close to hurting anybody (except myself when I was hit by whatever I just threw) but I did destroy a buncha stuff in my year on tx. Phones were my favorite thing. They go GOOD when ys throw em. I just bought many really cheap models while I was on the meds. I had a really GREAT week destroying my sons bike. THAT was a memorable week of posts around here. By the time the week was up it had become a piece of ART that I am sure is in some town square somewhere. If ya run over them with a truck enough times they really bend up nicely. The x-mas lights were a nice touch.
I had warned my family about this possibility before I started tx but they were hardly prepared for the reality. They did adapt though.
My rage would usually clear the room and then last for about another 10 minutes. I would then wait another 15 minutes and then go apologize profusely for whatever it was and explain about the meds. They all got used to it. My kids even started putting things they wanted replaced right by me in hopes that I would destroy them in my next episode and then they would get a new one since I would feel so guilty.
We all started making jokes about it. It became a topic of conversation around here for the whole year. We laughed and laughed about it.
I never used AD's. I used laughter and research to understand myself and these things. As I began to actually accept the fact that it was NOT really ME but the meds, it got a bit better. I learned to avoid the things that might **** me off. I never watched serious tv shows. I stopped listening to talk radio. I read funny books. I came right here and told about all the stupid things I did every day. The support I got by talkin about it all here was priceless. I found out that "everyone" had similar problems on this stuff. THAT helped a lot.
Realize that this is NOT your fault. It is simply a reaction to the meds that is common. You are NOT crazy....you are on some heavy medication.
Designate a favorite tree out front to take the rage out on. Use that to throw things at and scream at when things come on. This not only saves you a lot of apologies, it also convinces the neighbors that you are crazy so they won't bother you while you are going through this. I LIKED that part.
I had warned my family about this possibility before I started tx but they were hardly prepared for the reality. They did adapt though.
My rage would usually clear the room and then last for about another 10 minutes. I would then wait another 15 minutes and then go apologize profusely for whatever it was and explain about the meds. They all got used to it. My kids even started putting things they wanted replaced right by me in hopes that I would destroy them in my next episode and then they would get a new one since I would feel so guilty.
We all started making jokes about it. It became a topic of conversation around here for the whole year. We laughed and laughed about it.
I never used AD's. I used laughter and research to understand myself and these things. As I began to actually accept the fact that it was NOT really ME but the meds, it got a bit better. I learned to avoid the things that might **** me off. I never watched serious tv shows. I stopped listening to talk radio. I read funny books. I came right here and told about all the stupid things I did every day. The support I got by talkin about it all here was priceless. I found out that "everyone" had similar problems on this stuff. THAT helped a lot.
Realize that this is NOT your fault. It is simply a reaction to the meds that is common. You are NOT crazy....you are on some heavy medication.
Designate a favorite tree out front to take the rage out on. Use that to throw things at and scream at when things come on. This not only saves you a lot of apologies, it also convinces the neighbors that you are crazy so they won't bother you while you are going through this. I LIKED that part.
When I brought up the subject of rages with the doc at Johns Hopkins, he said that the rages are from the interferon and that it is a very vulnerable time in that suicide is a greater concern during these rages than at other times.
My instructions were to quit the interferon for a while if the rages recur, but that was pre-pegylated interferon.
My instructions were to quit the interferon for a while if the rages recur, but that was pre-pegylated interferon.
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It really is not all riba rage, it adds to it, but if you are constantly, hour after hour feeling achy, GI problems, day after day, no amount of ads is going to relief the irritability brought on by feeling physically ill. Your body is reacting normally to feeling sick all the time, you become emotionally exhausted and seek relief in any way available, even lashing out.
Others use pot, I use vicoprofen. You need to relief the ill feeling so that you can catch your breath if only temporarily.
Press your doctor for meds if your blood count is close to been off range. Anemia can add to the ill feeling, thus making you more irritable and less tolerant to distressing events. Chronic pain can be debilitating and exhausting. Ads should not be used to treat a normal human reaction. This will get better. It does for most of us.
be well
It really is not all riba rage, it adds to it, but if you are constantly, hour after hour feeling achy, GI problems, day after day, no amount of ads is going to relief the irritability brought on by feeling physically ill. Your body is reacting normally to feeling sick all the time, you become emotionally exhausted and seek relief in any way available, even lashing out.
Others use pot, I use vicoprofen. You need to relief the ill feeling so that you can catch your breath if only temporarily.
Press your doctor for meds if your blood count is close to been off range. Anemia can add to the ill feeling, thus making you more irritable and less tolerant to distressing events. Chronic pain can be debilitating and exhausting. Ads should not be used to treat a normal human reaction. This will get better. It does for most of us.
be well
I went ballistic a couple times early in tx but mellowed a bit after about 10 weeks. Have remained easily annoyed but once again am able to keep my mouth shut and think before I bark. Tread lightly it's hard to undo our rages.You're not alone in feeling that way though.
What kind of AD are you on? Maybe the doctor can suggest another type that is better suited for you bodies chemical balance, not all work the same. I take 100mg of Zoloft once a day, and find it helps quite a bit. I also partake in marijuana for pain and anxiety release. It helps me to calm down when I get stressed, eases the pain induced by the treatment, enhances my appetite, and helps me to move my bowels in the morning. My doctor is aware of the use, and can not tell me if it's good or bad to smoke, but says anything inputted into you is filtered by the liver, so be careful. I just finished my treatment three months ago, and I am still positive, so I need all the help I can to stay emotionally balanced. I hope that it eases as time progresses. Keep your head up.
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