Stevia

[Rockerforlife]

In the late 1980s an "anonymous firm" lodged a "trade complaint" with the FDA about Stevia when it started to surface in the United States. One company using stevia was the Celestial Seasonings herbal tea company. They were ordered by the FDA to stop producing tea "adulterated" with Stevia. Traditional Medicinals, another tea company, had their inventory of Stevia teas confiscated during an unexpected FDA raid and were told the tea would be burned.

Why did the government treat Stevia like a controlled substance? FDA documents call Stevia a "dangerous food additive" even though the safety of Stevia has been widely tested for many years by scientists in Japan. The FDA will not reveal who made the "trade complaint" (despite the Freedom of Information Act) though many suspect that it was the makers of the artificial sweetener Aspartame (aka "Nutrasweet") trying to fend off competition, as the artificial sweetener is very profitable.




http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/3449/1/Naturally-Sweet-and-Healthy---The-Wonders-of-Stevia.html

[ladywhy]

as the song goes (I think Guns & Roses)...Welcome to the Jungle............

[Rockerforlife]

maybe those signs should sat hep c is contagious...to get people more aware of this problem...instead of govts sweeping it under the rug.

[Rockerforlife]

FDA  is no up frontabout a lot of things,,stevia is good,thats all im saying....youre making a mountain... outta mole hill....jezz...who cares about politics

[ladywhy]

all I will say is...........stick around.

I remember years ago on the highways and byways of Long Island, there were these yellow smiley faces w/ a slogan stating "Courtesy is Contagious," and my brothers and sisters thought these signs were so silly...today, I don't think they were quite so silly.

[bandman54]

definitely enjoying ldwe!

I definitely respect others opinions,  its just when they give them they need to not veil them in a smoke screen of deception.

I like people to say what they mean.  If they think profit is bad, say so, and explain why.

i think it is pretty civilized in here!

bandman

[ladywhy]

"I just like for people to be up front, thanks!"

Cool...am glad to hear that...and I agree. What I also would like to see is respect for others opinions.
What has blown me away, particularily in the last year, has been the lack of manners in society..the disrespect and the apathy.....
the lack of what was once called civilized behavior.
It truly is a jungle out there........and oftentimes in here. Actually, it's probably safer in the jungle.

Hope you are enjoying the Labor Day weekend...and i mean that.
y

[bandman54]

Good for you!

"The government does not serve the people...the American people serve the government."

true dat!

I just like for people to be up front, thanks!

bandman

[ladywhy]

"Lady - if there is problem, run for office, vote, do whatever it takes to change things."

I do vote....."run for office"...ain't gonna happen, especially in the midst of tx. I just added my 2 cents...hope that's ok with you, and if not...that's ok too.

That IS still  my right as an American.

...and as a world traveller, I know that being an American is a blessing. I believe people have been blinded and most citizens seem unaware of the many basic rights we have lost...and continues (not JUST because of the current administration), so I am concerned.

...and I am all for Stevia...if I could just remember to pick it up at Trader Joe's...
...and I will say....I am not a socialist, nor a communist...I  defiantly (sic) am into democracy.

[jdwithhcv]

"When you guys say that you are not getting into politics and then say someone is making too much money, "it cuts in on there profits"you are getting into politics.  But you deceive by saying, we are not getting into politics.... you are promoting your own agenda and it is called socialism.

But you never will come out and say it , will you?"
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RIGHT ON!!!

jd

[bandman54]

ps - I use stevia... some company is making a profit from my purchase of stevia.

Are they making too much profit?   Maybe they should share that profit with the people?
Are the people entitled to a companies profit?  Only if they are shareholders.

bandman

[bandman54]

Rockerforlife,

Yep, your a socialist.... why don't you just say it.

I am a capitalist.

Study your history,  socialism, communism never works.  Failures every time

To just blanketly call them hypocrites is ludicrous... how many people do you know that work for the pharms?  How many ceo's do you know?  How many company presidents do you know?  answer - zero, zero, zero.

Lady - if there is problem, run for office, vote, do whatever it takes to change things.

Utopian, free societies never worked either.

I am afraid that the most successful (historically speaking) societies that man can come up with are democracy and capitalism.

When you guys say that you are not getting into politics and then say someone is making too much money, "it cuts in on there profits"you are getting into politics.  But you deceive by saying, we are not getting into politics.... you are promoting your own agenda and it is called socialism.

But you never will come out and say it , will you?

bandman

[Rockerforlife]

i wont get into politics or religion....im just for the people...i vote for the "green party" here in Canda....we have liberals and conseratives  here as our main two forms of govt...btw....i have nothing against anyone making money,but FDA seems too...why is do they knock stevia and other products that do heal?...and finally give in and say its ok later....hypocrites they are i tell you....

[ladywhy]

Sad to say...but there is little doubt in my mind that the FDA has an element of corruption.....just like most government agencies.

In my opinion..across the board....less government....more freedom.

btw......this post more likely belongs on the social side.

The government does not serve the people...the American people serve the government.
That doesn't mean that I believe the democrats will do any better but..........

[bandman54]

Rocker -
what do you have against people making money?

As long as they are not breaking laws and following regulations, I don't care how much money they make.  Should there be a cap on how much a person can make?

If they are breaking laws, then they should change the laws... I would imagine that the pharmas are some of the most regulated people around.

Are you a socialist?

bandman - a capitalist.

[Rockerforlife]

Mouth sores are common on tx...i had very minor cracks in the corner of my lips,i was using tee tree oil at the time...i didnt know stevia worked back then,making no wonder the big pharma is worried....i would be too if i were them...LOL...no one likes to see there money pile shrink....bit i doubt they will be living on Kraft dinner any time soon.

[Marcia2202]

I agree, it is excellent for the mouth. My son had his wisdom tooth growing and had bitten a serious hole into his gums. I dropped some dark liquid stevia on it and it hurt like hell. Half an hour later he asked for more and when he was going home, I had to give him one of my bottles. Now he swears by it.

I have used in on mouth sores before, the kind you get when you brush your teeth and hurt yourself and it healed them in no time.

I am starting to get sore gums and am regularly putting a drop in my mouth. I can also see that I have tiny mouth sores starting up. I will keep putting it on and see if stevia also works on tx mouth sores.

[Rockerforlife]

BIG PHARMA IS IN ON IT....THATS What I MEANT...ITS the same deal with stem enhance(blue green algae)....you cant make claims it cures diseases on the pakage or they will lock you up...they know it does cure....but they cant patent it because its a food...it cuts in on there profits

[Rockerforlife]

Its very effective as a mouth wash too...it even works on cold sores and stops bleeding gums....The sugar industry dont like stevia....that what im saying...FDA and the commericial food industry are sleeping in bed together...and big pharma is in onot....ITS CALLED .....MONEY

[copyman]

I use it everyday in my coffee. I use the small packets, one packet per cup. 2 cups per day. Hopefully it is beneficial like the article above and not killing me!

[Marcia2202]

It probably has stevia leaf in it and not stevia extract. It is allowed as a herb, but 'dangerous' as a sweetener. Do you see the logic???? I don't... That's the whole controversy in the stevia matter. In Japan it has been widely used in sweets for many many years, I think since the late 70ies.

My liquid stevia concentrate is the dark liquid. One uses a few drops. Definitely I would call this a sweetener. It says 'herbal supplement' on it.

So it is allowed and you can use it all you want, but you are not allowed to call it a sweetener.

[bandman54]

thats funny,
cause I am still buying the celestial seasoning tea flavoring (called zingers) sweetened with ,,, stevia!

bandman

[Rockerforlife]

Thymus extract that helps to boost the immune system's T-cells that are produced in the thymus gland helping to fight viral infections. There are protease inhibitors, which keep the Hepatitis C virus from duplicating itself.



http://www.herbcorner.net/articles/art_hepc.html

[Rockerforlife]

Licorice(Glycyrrhiza glabra)

Injections of the licorice compound glycyrrhizin are commonly used to treat hepatitis in Japan. The combination of glycyrrhizin and interferon may be more effective than interferon alone.11, 12 Injectable glycyrrhizin is available from some physicians. So far, human studies have not used orally administered licorice extracts in conjunction with interferon

http://www.peacehealth.org/kbase/cam/hn-1400009.htm

[Rockerforlife]

http://www.webmd.com/hepatitis/news/20021001/chinese-herbs-boost-hepatitis-b-treatment