Thanks guys for your emotional pick-me-ups. I am sorry to whine, although thank God you all know what it's like when these meds help you get all worked up.OMG.... Your words of wisdom and caring really helped me feel better. Being on TX is hard enough, but I really feel supported and cared for by all of you on this forum. I WILL GET THROUGH THIS!!!!!!!! My GI told me that at this point in tx, he is just a cheerleader, cheering me on and doing what it takes to help me go all the way without quitting. I'm not stopping, I am going to burn this dragon to cinders. And after that, I will work things out with my other half. The laughter and love I get from this site is the most powerful medicine I have. Thanks friends, berlynn
Girl you hang in there. I too went thru some of the things you mentioned. My husband drank beer every nite, and I'm sooooo against alcohol now. I just prayed and prayed and prayed some more. It's been 3 wks since he has had a beer. God does answer prayers!!!!! And remember you are always in my prayers as well as everyone else in this forum!!!! Much Love, Cindee
berlynn:
The hardest thing for me with my ex was feeling bad that he seemed to need to drink to be happy. I couldn't help but feel that my caring about him and my love for him should have been enough for him to want to stop. Unfortunately, that is never the case. I am sure you already know this, but your husband's need to drink has absolutely nothing to do with his love for you. I find the whole issue of alcoholism as a disease highly confusing/debatable, but regardless, I know that whatever is causing your husband to behave as he does can only be determined by him. All the love in the world will not make him stop until he is ready. That is an incredibly painful reality to accept.
You are not having a pity party; it must be terribly difficult for you on tx to have to deal with addiction issues and the accompanying behavior when you need a lot of support yourself. It would be difficult for people who are perfectly healthy. Alcoholics, if that is what your husband is, and only HE can make that decision, frequently have sexual hangups; again, it is NO reflection on you, but that doesn't stop it from hurting like hell. Do your best to take care of yourself; do something nice for yourself today. NEVER feel quilty about his drinking it is NOT YOUR FAULT; and NEVER feel quilty about your needs. The worst thing you can do is nag him about his drinking; I am not saying you do, but just in case, don't; it gives the person an excuse to drink and makes you feel bad about yourself and wastes energy you can be putting into something productive. It must also be difficult feeling so dependent on him, especially since you have children; tx must be making you feel very vulnerable right now; but the time will go by fast. I pray you slay your dragon, and one day soon, when you are strong and healthy, your husband will make some realizations and you will be able to support him in his recovery. Until that day comes, have faith and stay strong.
G
Ouch! That is a lot you are dealing with. There seems to be a lot of extra stress that you don't need right now.
You have the right to lie down when achy and call in for delivery if need be. It is quite selfish to insist on a big home cook dinner every night even when you are healthy.
I found out this year it is VERY hard (if not impossible) for a man who never had children or raised any,to come close to understanding how parents behave and feel, they have no appreciation of the sacrifices and bonding. There is nothing you can say that will make them understand. You have to be a parent.
And nothing matches motherhood.
Add that to this illness and it calls for some boiling stress. He does not seem willing to try to understand either, per your comment on his reluctance to read on this illness, I wish you tons of wisdom and strength, TONS. At least you will always have the love of your kids.
And, stop trying to excuse his behavior by your illness, please.
He is a big boy.
Lackalustre, Thank you very much for posting this article. I copied and saved it. I plan on trying to share it with a few of my loved ones. Most have been very supportive, but it's truly hard for them to understand.
My husband and I had a little spat just last night when he gave me a hard time because he feels like I'm not doing enough. You see, he let me take this year off from teaching to try to get better, so he thinks that since I'm home now, I should be helping him more. I feel bad because he is very busy with a new business. I know that he works hard and resents the fact that I am no longer bringing money into the house hold. He has made me feel guilty for the money that I have spent on my children and grandchildren for Christmas. We have only been married 5 years, and he had never been maarried or had kids of his own. He has been wonderful to my children really, but his money and his hobbies are very important to him.
He told me last night that he thought that I must not feel so bad because I'm not in bed sleeping all the time. I just broke down crying. I have been struggeling to do as much as I could each day(although it never seems like enough) I know that I don't get the rest that I should in order to really try to fight this disease, but I feel guilty if I rest too much. It is also realllllly important to my husband that I cook a big dinner every night. I've tried to explain to him that it is hard to cook when nothing sounds good to eat. But I still try to cook something nice every night.
One of the hardest things for me is the fact that he does not try to slow down his alchohol intake. He drinks beer and rum and coke at least 3 days a week. Even though he knows I can't drink and it would make it easier for me if he slowed down, he won't. And he doesn't just drink a few drinks at these times, he drinks until he can hardly walk or talk and passes out on the couch. I think the thing that bothers me the most about this is that I feel that he must be unhappy to have to drink this much. He says it's because he has had a stressful day and needs to relax.
We almost never have sex. I worry that he is afraid that I may infect him, even though we us condoms.( he tested negative as did my 3 children, thank God) Or maybe he just doesn't find me desirable now. And who can blame him, with the tx. and sx.
I have asked him to read some of the postings on this site before, but he won't bother. He hates to read, unless it's a Cabellos cataloug or a hunting/fishing mag. I do believe that he loves me, but he just doesn't know how to cope with all of this. I don't think he really understood what he got himself into when he married me and my family. Then, 5 years down the road his new wife is diagnosed with this awful disease.
People are always telling me, Kim, you look so good. I can't believe your sick. And when they ask how I'm feeling, I don't want to whine and tell them that my whole boddy hurts, I have had head-aches that last days, sometimes my elbow hurts sooo much, I can hardly lift a glass, let alone push a vacum cleaner.
Please excuse my pity party. I feel better jsut getting some of this off my chest. Sorry friends! Take care, berlynn
Hi, Berlynn,
It is really tough sometimes. I feel for you. I've been so lucky! Maj Neni
I understand quite a lot u are going thru. The fact that none of your partners became infected does give me hope, but even at a 1% chance, I couldn't ask my partner to take a chance. So I accept the use of condoms even though I despise them.
I hope you do better in a new relationship, we do seem to attach ourselves to the same type over and over. You were fortunate his behavior didn't prompt you to try and feel what he did with drugs. I gave in to the tempt. He chose to continue with drugs, he liked the feeling. I have my doubts about calling addiction a disease. We have more choices than with diabetes or cancer. You can choose not to take them and go for tx and continue with support groups. He liked the high, did not want to give up looking at life through that glass. My opinion, guys.
Is your daughter ok? I had my last daughter 14 yrs ago, and was terrified of having infected her. She is negative, and I also breastfed 4 1/2yrs(have the twin saggy bags to prove it too). You can email me at ***@**** if you want to talk.
From that last pregnancy I developed joint pains that were finally dx related to hcv this year by the rheumatologist.
Go to go to lunch, now. Later. TY all
Well, I've been w/an chronic cheater and an addict. Personally, once an addict kicks his addiction, he's a damn good person. B/a cheater always has a moral stain. So, there are worse things than addiction-drugs or alcohol.
Well, neighbor. I'm from Hungary, but I live in the US.
You've come a long way; one more week and it's the finish line for you! Whatever worked for the last month will work for this last week of tx. OK?
Enjoy the spring... plant something pretty for us, who are shivering in the snow and wind... and have weeks to go yet.
Maj Neni
oh honey hang in there....i KNOW it sucks to be shunned and made to feel less than, and mis-understood espeacially when we need family the most honey....and i CAN RELATE...that is why i've choosen a new family through this experience, and it happens to be right here for me.....your peice was very informative and moving...ever think about printing it out and sending it to all those family and friends you think could benifit from reading it...even if you wanted to leave it un-signed, you could let them know that it is important that they read and try to be compassionate....i don't know just a thought...i just feel for you...and sometimes i wish i could smack some people upside the head for thier intolerance of illness'.....sending you hugs....kimmy
I understand your frustration and I also know that we do this tx to become healthy.
I don't know if you've finished tx or cleared the virus, but I think that if the tx is succesful there are no reasons to suffer anymore the symptoms of hep C. I haven't had any symptoms before tx, I was happy and not feeling tired. It is true that the tx has changed my behaviour and my moods and the judgement, but I really hope that in a few month after finishing tx to be me again.My family has been very supportive but they are hopping that I will become their mum and wife.
I'm week 47 now and at the end of patience physically and mentally.
I was so scarred of your post that I'm shaking now from my whole body. Will my life from now be a heal for my family and me? Hard question with no answer?
Good luck to everybody and keep a positive attitude.
Galen-please don't judge me for my spelling or gramar, English is my second language...
Most americans speak only one language let alone write more than one.
My daughter in law is from Ecuador and speaks five languages
Where are you from?
Wow! week 47. Hang in there girl! I firmly blieve life will get better for us!
...but living in New Zealand
i did not write the things on family above (at the top) but it came thru on one of the hep sites and i thought it was worth sharing. dont know who wrote it. as family issues can definitely emerge with this illness and the treatment.
fortunately i have a supportive family but at times things can be difficult. hey life is difficult - then u die. ha i pray a lot. and give thanks... love to all....
Hi again:
Just want to add, the reason we broke up was not that I suspected I got hepatitis c from him. The reason was that he was still in denial about his addictions, and I did not want to live with that anymore, especially since I had my and my daughter's health to worry about. Last year we were in Hawaii and went diving. The next day (Thursday) I was getting strange joint pain and was concerned I had decompression illness. I skipped a morning dive on the subsequent day (Friday) because I was worried. All morning and afternoon on Friday I was concerned about having decompression illness and couldn't wait for my boyfriend to get back from his morning dive. He returned 5 hours late from the dive drunk; he knew not drinking was a condition of our relationship, and not only did he drink, but he was drinking and driving. I was annoyed with him, told him I wasn't feeling well, and went to the hospital. The doctor wanted to send me to a decompression chamber; the symptoms of decompression illness can be vague, and the doctor didn't want to take any chances. I called my boyfriend to tell him what was happening, and he told me he was leaving me; he thought I was being dramatic about not feeling well and used that as an excuse for his behavior. He said he was leaving my plane tickets and some money and checking into another hotel. I left the hospital and ran to the hotel where we were staying to stop him from leaving. I let his drinking and drunken decision making come before concerns for my own health. It was like a nightmare for me. Of course he changed his mind the next day when he sobered up, but that was next to the last straw for me. I didn't go to the decompression chamber because Diver's Alert Network said they didn't think it was decompression illness; in retrospect I believe what I was feeling were symptoms of hepatitis c. For most of my life I have been told these vague, strange symptoms were all in my head. It was episodes like what happened in Hawaii that concern me. Whether you have hepatitis c or not, everyone deserves to be with someone who will be there for them when needed. I now know I was really sick (hep c), I just didn't know what was wrong, and it saddens me he wasn't there for me when I needed him. It saddens me even more I wasn't there for myself, as I suspect _Sherr may not be there for herself (completely speculative); I will not put myself in that position again. Had I did get hepatitis c from him, and he was not in denial, sober, and trying his best, I never would have left him; I would have stayed and we would have fought it together. But that was/is not the situation.
Hi lackalustre, Thank you for sharing! I have always felt that family issues should be listed along with all other possible sides. Hahaha! It is a big part of dealing with treatment for many & it would be better to be warned so as to prepare ones self. All in all I had pretty good support during TX but the part in the posting that mentioned not looking sick but being sick really hit home. Those were the times on treatment that were the hardest, my husband & kids would have to be reminded (and not always nicely) that I needed help & understanding. Avoiding my mother on bad head days was also helpful. I know it all sounds frightening to the newly diagnosed but all I can say is be thankful for this forum. It sure helped me prepare as best as I could for the 48-week haul.
All my very best!
GALEN SAID IT ALL!!!!!! And yes you have ruffled my feathers! I was an addict, before I even knew what an addict was! But w/ the unconditional LOVE FROM MY FAMILY....I made it thru. So if you don't like what you read here.....then don't come here! Don't you think we have "Dumped" on ourselves enough???? I have been drug free for 10 yrs., thought I'd really done things w/ my life since then...only to find out I had Hep C. My Mother hasn't wanted to talk about it much, and I didn't even know what Hep C was. I cried and blamed myself for a long time....so, miss "goodie two shoes".I've had my say!!! If you are having a pity party....then get off your a**, and do something about it!!! If you've never been an addict then YOU HAVE NO CLUE!!!!! Believe it or not it is a DISEASE!!!!!!! And NO fun at all. I feel sorry for your poor husband. You never know what you will have to face in the future!!!!! GOOD LUCK and prayers to your sick husband. Cindee
In all fairness, my wife has been where I think Sherr has been. I lied and cheated and drugged my way to hep-C. My wife is severely scarred from all that behavior. Lets not call her names but understand the other side of the coin. Seems like she posts and reads so I assume her husband is really in great hands with this woman. I watch this forum everyday. Geno type 1-b, no treatment. I am waiting for alternative and my wife supports me but she gets her digs in every now and then. In my case and looks like Sher's I brought this on in my denial way of thinking. I'm not saying you are right Sher but I do understand. I pray for you as well as your husband and all of us. I agree you need alanon to understand all this addiction lingo. But God bless you and keep coming back and YOU try and understand our side of this coin, called the dragon.
Hepcbilly, wow, it sounds like you have come a long mind healthy way. I imagine dealing with an addict that you love must be impossibly hard. When you say your wife is permanently scared from the experience of dealing with your addiction disease, in what way do you mean? Hope I
Not at all Terriri, in a word without going too far off this forum TRUST. In my addiction I lied and lied and then I lied some more. How can husbands/wives of us addicts TRUST. And that my dear can damage an innocent loved one and is why I think I feel for Sherr, she to is a victum. I think we addicts know what we may have done to those we love and is why I think I understand Sherrs anger. Without great detail on addiction, it is a family disease, we know all that. But Hepc is not about addiction, so I am done.I see her way of thinking{as my wife points out sometimes} I personaly have this disease from addiction. God Bless {especially you insomniacs}.
Oh No befuddledbedarned I just choose not to do treatment right now. My GI will treat me, but this is my choice, for right now. Don't listen to me watch the forum I just had a comment about another post. These guys know what they are talking about.
I guess Im just lucky to have the support I have had since dx with Hep c 1a. Im a paramedic and got it on the job, but do like my beer on my days off, Im on wk 40 of 48, I just finished reading about the spouses and such that continue the lifestyle (drugs, tatoos, they had before. I havent had a drink since last year when dx, sure its rough but when I think of the sacrifices my wife (very little sex, my brain fog, and a little riba-rage thrown in) has made for me, soft drinks arnt so bad. This disease is blood to blood and alcohol durring tx is stupid, I know when Im finished with tx Im having oysters, crawfish, crabs and a beer, I have no liver damage but if I did forget the beer.I will still work on an ambulance and take my chances but thats my job. If a relationship doesnt meet halfway its time to rethink it and take care of yourself. Life is short enough to put up with ****. I sometimes wonder about the percentage stats for svr when I know what the stats are for drug abusers. And I mean that in a good way, sure there are non responders and those that found out late they were infected (after symptoms) but most in this forum are commited to slaying the dragon and each other and read it daily. We were all kids once doing things we were ignorant of the dangers of. Its time for some to grow up. If the dragon isnt a wake up call, what the heck is. Good Nite all
hi there, i have to agree with galen, there is wonderful suport available in a similar format to this one for you....just type in Al-Anon...and choose which sites you want....I think you will find suport for what you are going through there......however.....and i will say this anyway....cause i CAN and also the menopausal, riba rage stuff working in my favor right about now.....i know a think a or two about addiction and have written a book on the subject AND it was used as a required text for several university courses for which i lectured.....NOW...having asstablished my working base of knowledge somewhat...i will say to you that addicts are doing the very best they can to cope with their own often emmense agony.....more often than not, i have found, (even speaking from deeply personal experience) that the majority of those who cope with their pain via drugs and alcolhol, do so as a result of very early, and not so early abuse....often sexual, if not, physical and phycological....so...having said that, i understand a little of your frustration, however, my dear, it pales in comparrisson to the life of pain, confusion and after effects that these experiences mark for life one with....so, i would encourage one of 2 things...either understand WHY he finds his fear based using....nessisary and love and suport him through it...(it tends to be far more difficult for men to speak and open up about this)or.....contact al-anon for suport...or leave....the LAST thing any addict or alcoholic needs is MORE SHAME DUMPED ON THEM......wishing you find the help and guidance you seek elsewhere....it's out there for you.