high liver enzymes

[rats]

I need help! the doctors dont know what to do with me. in the past 5-6 years I have had theses symptoms. high liver enzymes for over a year now .my liver has grown 3 times its normal size. I do not drink. I am overwieght I have gained about 80 pounds in the last 5 years. I have mass cell diseae. I have had arthritis since i was 13.and my cartlidge is starting to detieriorate.+ I have had to have a hysterectimy due to cyst on my ovaries and tumuors on my uterus (noncanerus)wich had also grown 3 times its normal size .I have had carpal tunnel in both my hands. I have sever fluid retention but my heart is fine ( has been tested numerous times) the fluid will collect in my lungs.as well as everywhere else.IM frustraited and at a loss I hate going to the doctor for anything because they cant seem to find anything wrong all they say is we are going to watch and see how things go?  and treat me like IM crazy!.. I tend to also run a fever all the time and even if im not running a fever im hot to the touch .ex: my husband says at night IM like sleeping with an hot oven. and that happens during the day also. IM at my wits end It makes me dpressed because I hurt all the time and feel like ****! I somtimes get double vision and at 43 i break out with acne.. there has got to be an answer to what is going on with me? oh and to top things off last year my hiar was falling out and thining..it seemes to have slowed down some this year..IM just  tired and frustraited and want to feel better!!!!!

[andis67]

hi, did you find out what is wrong with you only im having simular problems. i have been suffering for about 5 year, had my gall bladder removed, then my ovary has it had a growth on it and just got another op now because its caused a hernia with the last op. 4 months after my ovary out and my pains have started again and my liver enzymes back up.

[christyd]

Hi.  I was reading the posting by rats and I would tell her to see a liver specialist pronto or at least get a second opinion from another regular doctor.  Being sick for about five years(many symptoms of liver problems) and with swelling under my right ribs, I'd been to see my regular doctor about 100 times, with no diagnosis of any liver disease.  I do have multiple sclerosis, so many things were blamed on that by the doc. In April, I finally got sent to specialist who removed my gall bladder.  About two weeks after the surgery, I was so sick I went to emergency room and was admitted for 14 days, diagnosed with autoimmune hepatitis and later with hepatitis c also.  Even in the hospital with terribly high liver levels, it took the specialists a week to diagnose autoimmune liver disease.  The biopsy was the final test that confirmed it.

[NYgirl]

Especially since all that drivel above is obnoxious as H3LL too. If you can't copy and paste a stupid link - try and read the RULES around here even if it's your own junk we dont like to have the forum cluttered.

We're pretty up to date on HCV but thanks. Bad form.

Maybe I can sell you a book, I have lots.

[nicolemarks]

For all :
In this ebook you may find:
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INDEX OF DISEASE (A-Z)...…………..…………………………………………8
LIVER DISEASE…………………………………………………………………..12
THE LIVER…………………………………………………………………………12
TERMINOLOGY…………………………………………………………………..12
ANATOMY………………………………………………………………………….12
FUNCTIONAL UNIT……………………………………………………………….14
BILIARY SYSTEM…………………………………………………………………14
PHYSIOLOGY……………………………………………………………………..14
DETOXIFICATION………………………………………………………………...14
PHASE I…………………………………………………………………………….14
PHASE II……………………………………………………………………………15
BILE METABOLISM………………………………………………………………15
HEPATIC LIPIDOSIS …………………………………………………………….16
QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS……….…………………………………..17
1. What is Gilbert’s disease? If detected in young age of23, thus it has harms on future life? Can this disease be cure with any medicine? At goes wrong with the liver to let this disease happen or increase in irubin/blood?................................................................................................17
2. I have had 2 cat-scans and I have a liver mass. There has been no change in 3 mouths and the doctors are 90% sure it is benign. I have no symptoms. I am Leary of an unnecessary biopsy because of closeness to the heart and diaphragms. What else should I ask for before the biopsy? .........................................................................................................17
3. What are the drugs which can reverse liver fibrosis? .........................18
4. How I take care of this condition? .........................................................19
5. Can a bad liver become cancerous? .....................................................19
6. I am completely non alcoholic, but have gathered lot of weiglit (105 kg with a height of 170 cm). My latest blood test show SCOT & SGPT values as 59.7U/L & 78.3 17L respectively. Please suggest me the cause and the remedies. I am doing regular exercises an morning walk for 40 minutes a day. Rests of the values of LFT test are within normal range………………19
7. Definition of pathogenic………………………………………………….….20
8. Lower back and stomach pains trouble keeping food down, lacks resire to eat. Could this be associated with liver problems? .................20
9. I have a friend who was just diagnosed with cirrhosis of the liver. I have been searching for the treatments that are available...aside from transplant. I can't seem to find anything except vitamin therapy, etc. Could u please point me in a direction where I can find more info, available? …………………………………………………………………………20
I0. I'd like to know about liver disease and Lipator. I have been on Lipator for 10 Mo. and I am in so much pain in my lower back & side, a Chiropractor told me I need a liver flush. I’d like a "simple" way to do a liver flush…………………………………………………………………………..21
11. Has liver disease got anything to do with ankylosis spondylitis my nanny is in hospital really I'll with it plz get Bk ASAP thaux……………..23
12. How do you get ankylosis spondylitis? ………………………………...23
13. Symptoms of the ankylosis spondylitis ..……………………………….23
14. Are there any physical signs of liver disease from alcohol? Also, can liver disease cause any coordination problems?.....................................25
15. What structures are likely to be damaged by a stub wound ill the region of the porta hepatic?........................................................................25
16. Jaundice……………………………………………………………………….25
17. What causes liver disease and how to prevent it? ……………………26
18. Sir, Since last three years I was suffering from stomach problem—the problem actually is…what ever I use to eat...it does not get proper digest..! mean after eating food breakfast, lunch or dinner) just after 1 or maximum 2 hours I have to rush to bathroom (toilet)...I consulted private surgeon doctor for this purpose...he told me to have endoscopy...for stomach...I did that…and result was gas problem—and swelling inside stomach...! Have routine medicine for three weeks the problem was solved a bit, but over all still I have gas problem now—and what ever I eat it ...it feels to me that it is still not digested properly—and food is in-between my stomach and liver—.now I can you please guide me what exactly I should do ? ………………………………………………..27
19. The cause of cryoglobulinemia by a Liver Disease? How? Why? And what is the cause? And best treatment of this disease? ........................27

20. Is it true that the liver can regenerate damaged cells? .....................28
21. Well I had an x-ray or some type of scan and on my file from films-it said I have a 5mmspot oil the right lobe of my liver, and I would like to know could it be not serious...or is it normal to have a spot on your liver what could it be............................................................................................28
22. I have Hepatic Steatosis, and what I would like to know is will it stay like this or there is a real risk of turning into fibrosis, and if so what is the percentage of this happening? ………………………………………….28
23. HOW MUCH TIME VIRES OF HEPATITES 'E' EFFECT THE LIVER? CAN LIVER BE ACTIVE AFTER THE EFFECT? ....................................... 28
24. Is it possible for alcohol to form stones in the liver? ........................29
25. I need to know how to manage the liver patient through diet……….29
26. Nitric oxide ill liver cirrhosis………………………………………………30
27. I have Toxic Hepatitis -drug induces apparently. I have had RA for 23 years and have been on Methotrexate, Arava, Paracetamol for pain, Vioxx etc, for some years. Recently I have had several courses of antibiotices for MRS infection. My question is, is there any way at all to tell which drug was the culprit? I am off all RA drugs and painkillers and am dreading the flare-up of RA that I know will soon come……………31
28. Wound healing in oral tissues; following oral surgeries; in pt’s with liver disease………………………………………………..…………………….32
29. My maid is a quite a heavy drinker and she has some kind of itchy skin on her neck and on the left side of her buttocks. Does that anything to do with her liver? What signs do I look for as well so that I can try and help her?  .....................................................................................................32
30. HOW LIVER PRODUCE EXCESS CHOLESTROLS. MY CHOLESTROLS ARE 341. I AM ON DIET ALSO. THIS IS MY FAMILY HISTORY ………………………………………………………………………….32
31. I drink three pegs of liquor every day. Will this damage my liver? What should I do to prevent that? ……………………………………………33
32. How can you slow the disease down, what are the best thing to eat, drink to help? …………………………………………………………………….33
33. Enlarged liver …………………………….................................................34
34. Are the large brown spots that keep appearing on my skin caused from ail unhealthy liver? ……………………………………………………….34
35. Why will a high ggt result occur, then drop for 524 to 424 and waiting for next test in one mouth intervals, I used to drink 2 double vodka every day at night, I stopped this habit when I started these test. Reason for the test was routine checkup ……………………………………………..35
36. What is Hemangima? ............................................................................35
37. My spouse liver function mildly elevated. How does this happen and how can he fix this?.....................................................................................36
38. My husbands liver function test has been high ("between 300 and 500) for the last year now, the doctors have said that this could have been caused by medication but they are not certain, in am concerned that the doctors are not doing enough to find about the cause, asmhe has never drank alcohol and has never smoked, can you give me any ideas that could be causing this?...............................................................38
39. How does cholesterol penetrate the liver? …………………………….38
40. I have liver damage through taking methotrexate to control arthritis along with psoriasis. I also suffer from insomnia, and have been told that this happens when the liver is compromised. My question is "how does the liver control our sleep patterns???............................................38
41. What are the causes? ………………………………………………………40
42. What's the best way to cleanse one's liver? ………………………..…41
43. How long can one live without a liver? And can it heal on its oil? ...41
44. Can Zocar the cholesterol medicine cause damage to my liver like give me jaundice?........................................................................................42
45. What is fatty liver? Is it risky to have this at 30 age? How to reduce it?..................................................................................................................42
46. Hemochromatosis????........................................................................43
Causes ……………………………………………………………….43
Risk Factors ………………………………………………………….44
Symptoms ……………………………………………………………44
Diagnosis ……………………………………………………………..45
47. How can you get the iron out of the body?.........................................46
Treatment……………………………………………………………..46
Tests for Hemochromatosis ………………………………………..47
48. My ensigns are high in my liver, from blood test I am heavy none smoker, drinker drugs! Been working out taking allot of protein drinks as well as vitamins*! Am a vegen eater, but I been eating meat the past His because I am lifting weights. But I have stop, and went back to veggies! Had pain on my right side I thought it was muscle but I guess it my be my liver! Don’t have medical so it becomes expensive, for testing! Was thinking of a natural cleansing, what do you think? By the way my levels where, GOT (AST)-59.1 H, NORMAL RANGE (G-4G), GPT (ALT)-56.4, NORMAL RANGE (0 38)…………………………………………..48
49. I suffer from several diseases. Diabetes, histoplasmosis, bone and disk disease. I take many different drugs. I've recently been diagnosed with high liver enzymes. My Doctor is eliminating drugs one at a time, testing weekly and they continue to rise. Without pain killers I am mostly confined to a whell chair, without the steroids for the histoplasmosis my lifespan will be greatly compromised. Without the insulin death is almost certain. Any ideas? ………………………………..48
50. Causes of liver inflammation ……………………………………………..49
51. How do you get hepatitis? ………………………………………………...49
52. What is "fatty liver disease” and is it curable?...................................50
53. Sir I am 25 years I got hepatitis B and I diagnosed it before two years they told me that I am in earring stage that’s mean Hbsag+ and Hbe and Dna tests are negative, so I gone to the doctor my parents are pressring me to get the marry by the doctor advice me to get the marry I got the marry before five mouths before and I took my wife to doctor and she took two doses of hepatitis vaccine and the another one is next mouth for this hepatitis somebody told me that its cure by aurvedic I used aurvedic treatment for one year but its nor cured so please suggest me to get me the get me the good treatment……………..……………………..50
Drug therapies …………………………………………………………….54
Prevention ………………………………………………………………….56
54.  After liver transplant from a live donor, what will happen to the liver, will it regenerate?  And to what extent? …………………………………….56
55. My husband had some blood work done yesterday, the doctor called back and said everything was fine but his liver exsims was up, they want him to go for more blood work what does this mean should we be worried………………………………………………………………………..……57
56. Spot on the liver……………………………………………………………..57
57. What is a fatty liver? This Lave cure? …………………………………..58
58. How to heal liver from damage from hepatitis c? …………………….58
59. How much do you have to drink? I also smoke but u dints have any answers for me…………………………………………………………………..59
60. How long does it take to get liver problems if you have been taking Lortab over a period of time? ………………………………………………..59
61. How long is a person’s life expectancy? ………………………………61
62. What are some safe pain relievers to take while liver enzymes are elevated? .....................................................................................................61
63. I have pain in my liver area. I haven't been to a doctor because I don't know which kind of doctor is best. I.e. ND or MD etc. I had hepatitis 30 years ago, no other history of anything……………………..61
64. We take vitamins and live healthy. However, we have 3-4 drinks every night on settling down to watch TV no earlier than 8:00pm. We have blood tests every six months. Our doctor knows of this. Are we ill for liver trouble? …………………………………………………………………62
65. Can it be cured? …………………………………………………………….62
66. Is there any hope for people with Cholangiocarcinoma?   …………62
67. If only the caudate lobe remains enlarged after stetting is the liver likely to be able to function effectively still in the long term? ………….62
68. I started taking mega doses of Niacin over 5 years ago to help control my extremely high cholestral (mostly genetic). Recent blood test shows 95 U/L of GGT—flag on test result. I'm just learning about GGT. Is the Niacin damaging my liver and should I get prescription instead? I am 47. Cholestral level 7 years ago 317. Now around 200 although last year it had dropped to 170. Have not been able for have not successfully tried) to maintain weight this past year. I am novice to liver disease and a little concerned that I am a candidate. What am I supposed to look for, what are the signs? ……………………………………………………………63
69. SHOULD STEATOHEPITIS BE TREATED? Also ill conjunction with an elevated ANA and see! ……………………………………………………63
70. What is the best treatment for regenerating the liver, damaged by alcohol! And many drugs like paracetamol, amoxicillin, etc……………65
71. How to replace vitamins & proteins………………………………….….65
Vitamin A .............................................................................................66
Vitamin B3 (Niacin)…………………………………………………………67
Vitamin B6…………………………………………………………………..67
Vitamin B12 …………………………………………………………………68
Vitamin C ……………………………………………………………………68
Vitamin D ……………………………………………………………………69
Vitamin E ………………………………………………………………….69
72.   What is the life expectancy of irreversible liver disease or cirrhosis? …………………………………………………………………………69
73. Will your liver make your lek hurt? ……………………………………..69
74. What foods or drinks are best to take to keep the liver strong and levels low? ………………………………………………………………………..69
75. Iron content in the livers effects and treatment………………………..70
Causes ………………………………………………………………………………71
Risk Factors ……………………………………………………………………….72
Symptoms ………………………………………………………………………….72
Diagnosis …………………………………………………………………………..73
Treatment ………………………………………………………………………….74
76. Spicy food? …………………………………………………………………..75
77. IS STRESS LIVER CURABLE? ……………………………………………75
78. Can someone who occasionally drinks alcohol develop liver disease as they get older? ……………………………………………………………….75
79. How long can a person live after being diagnosed with liver disease when they are still using drugs? ...............................................................75
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[OnAPrettyPoison]

Rats,
Let me go ahead and throw thyroid in the mix.....have they checked that?  I know it is frustrating to say the least that you have all these symptoms and no one can tell you why.  I vote for a really good workup in a really good facility like a teaching hospital if you can't go somewhere like Mayo.  Places like that are where you want to go when nobody else can figure out what is wrong with you.  Good Luck!!!!

Jim/Goofy - I read you both had post-treatment PCR's.  Here is a little prayer sent your way to continuing SVR!  You both have some pretty good karma going in your favor!

[Forseegood]

I've done that with lab faxes, scrolling down really fast and fixating on a number, YIKES! YIKES YIKES! then figuring out youre looking at the wrong number, not a great way to *punk* ourselves is it? Maybe I should take a tranqulizer the next time they fax me my labs...then maybe I can just drool on it a little instead of freaking out over it...

And I'd suggest to anyone that if you want to get your labs sooner then later with a lessor chance of mistakes....get a fax machine, they are pretty cheap now considering....it always seems that the clinics are much more amenable to faxing you your results then telephoning you about them, I guess they figure if they can avoid talking to patients, they'll opt for that most times, they feel it's less work I guess...

Tallblonde: in all my happiness over your great labs, I neglected to ask you again what is your regimen? sorry if I've asked before, just to refresh my memory...I do remember that we are taking many of the same things...the dosages too and the times of day? I know that's a Tall order (sorry for the pun, punsters should be punked!) and if youre not up to all that typing or you just don't want to say for whatever reason, that's completely okay, I'm just curious to see how we are both getting such good results...continued good luck!

[Forseegood]

hi, maybe i didn't read your post right, but do you have hep c? also, some of those symptoms could be a result of perimenopause or menopause...yes, I'd get thee to a few kinds of doctors and get to the bottom of it...trouble with hep c, though not as much lately, they can misdiagnose it, same with hormonal problems, and of course you could have more then one thing going on and hormonal problems tend to exascerbate the hep c and vicea versa...menopausal and hep symptoms tend to overlap, along with some other diseases...course this is all speculation, none of us are doctors...

[Forseegood]

just another guess for the pile, could be fatty liver going on too...

[jmjm530]

Better than a fax machine is efax.com
Still free I think for a basic account, small monthly fee if you want a specific number, more fax capacity and the ability to send faxes.

Your fax comes as an attachment to your email so you don't have to physically be at the same location as the fax machine. So the time you save running home can be spent rubbing on some more Alo Vera :)

-- Jim

[Forseegood]

yeah, but doesn't your puter have to be on? I think I'd rather have a fax machine, no fuss no muss, but then maybe I'm not grasping the whole concept of efax...got two hours sleep last night so I'm not grasping a lot, and I'm walking funny too....

[Ballerina]

I have spent the last three years "running rabbit trails" trying to figure out what the heck my symptoms were telling about my body. Things like rashes, joint aches, extreme fatigue, nausea, dizziness, whole body sweats, eyes like sandpaper, can't sleep, and blood pressure spikes that drove me to ER where they always check my heart, which is just fine thanks to 4 stress tests. Always the same thing - everything is fine. Well, last week I was dx with Hep C. I could possibly have had it for over 30 years! Guess I'm not crazy.

I'm sorry you are having so much trouble. I pray that someone out there will figure out what the problem is. I would definitely find a doctor/facility that is top knotch, Mayo or UCLA Medical, and get to the bottom of it all. Don't give up! You've got some pretty specific things going on. God bless you!

[jmjm530]

The concept of efax is kinda the same thing that is neat about email. You don't physically have to be at the fax location in order to receive a fax, just like you don't physically have to be at home to receive an email.

For example, this weekend I'm outta town and would have had to lug a fax machine with me in order to get my labs fax. This way all I had to do was to go online and check my email. It's not like you and I aren't online a lot. LOL. The other nice thing is you can save, store and organize your faxes/labs on your hard disk. I still have a fax machine at home but only use it for sending material that's not already on my computer. And best of all -- at least in the old days when I used faxes with my clients instead of email --  your clients don't know if you're at your desk or at the beach, because all your faxes send/receive from one phone number regardless of your location.  

Two hours sleep and walking funny huh? Sounds like a good time was had by all. LOL.

-- Jim

[Forseegood]

thanks for the elucidation, I'll definitely look into that, course I was physically carrying my fax machine to the beach...great for some impromtu ab and bicep work, ha ha!

See Jimbo, that's the difference between cats and kitties, I'm walking funny cause I didn't get much sleep, but "of course", as an official *guy*...you HAD to go there, ha ha ha! Hope youre having the best weekend, prob kinda nice you don't have to shoot up anything or pop some nasty little pills, leave that to the rest of us...

[jmjm530]

Sorry you've got all these problems.

Not sure about the other stuff, but if you're running consistently high enzymes and your liver is 3X normal, if you haven't already, I'd suggest you see a liver specialist (hepatologist)as opposed to someone with a more general practice such as a general practitioner of gastroenterologist. If you're seeing a hepatologist already, maybe it's time for a second or third opinion. Another option is to try and check yourself into a top-notch facility like the Mayo Clinic and let them have a go at you.

As to feeling hot to the touch, or running a low fever (you didn't mention low or high) it could be related to a serious condition but just as easily could be nothing significant, and unfortunately a lot of "healthy" people also feel like C*rap a lot :) Acne at 43 could possibly be rosacea sometimes mistakenly referred to as  "adult acne" but has nothing to do with acne. Have you been taking topical steroids lately? They can aggravate rosacea, especially if used on the face. A good dermatologist is the one to see here.

All the best, and try and report back if you find out more.

-- Jim

[jmjm530]

Goof says: ... so our blood may in fact be running down the conveyor belt side by side on Tues...
----------------------------------

Goof's blood to Jim's blood: "So what do you think of the Manglia study..."

Jim's Blood: "Isn't he the guy that only wants to poison   us for only 12 weeks..."

Goof's blood: " I still think it's an immune thing..."

Jim's Blood: " Dunno...my doc suggests our little viral friends are gone, THEY ARE GONE ..."

Goof's Blood; "You know this reminds me of a hemmoriod story I heard once ..."

Jim's Blood: "Hey, haven't we met somewhere before?"

###

[rats]

no menopause.had all the girl stuff taken out.had the hep test and thyroid and i cant think of what other test all came back negative.. I havent seen my last lab results they just called me and said my liver enzymes were high again and that they are wanting to just keep an eye on things to see how it goesthis has been going on for about a year now with them calling about the lad saying its high lets just watch it..I have had a sono of my liver about 6 months ago and that is when they told me it was 3 times its normal size..Ive also had my gall bladder removed about 5 years.up untill about 6 years ago I have been in very good health. then things have just started going down hill.

[Forseegood]

not to say I know anything about this definitely, but you can have hormonal prob with a hysterectomy, probs with taking hrt, all of the above, sometimes these symptoms can be kind of dramatic,not always of course, yeah, guess a thorough work-up on liver is in order, among other things...

[amirtracy]

Good luck guys! It sure sounds like you both are in the clear. Post as soon as you know and can't wait to join you on the SVR train...

BTW, the little blood samples talkin' to each other was funny...

[sfbaygirl]

Yep, I can see you with that fax machine on the beach going, "YIKES,YIKES,YIKES,' all the surfers coming out of the water,from the noise, to find you on the beach with your hands planted to your head looking over those lab faxes.

Be sure to have that bikini on with all the shot marks showing, I am sure the surfers will then understand your dilemna.

Goof/Jim
I am so jealous! I wish I was headed to the beach with my fax machine Tuesday to hear I am SVR and it's OVER! I'd be drinking my beer, eating my hamburger and sitting in the sun.....God, I miss my sun!

Good luck and I will be thinking of you.

[Forseegood]

well, our southern bay from you, LA is steaming up right now, I, in fact, am headed toward the beach right now!!!! Hope it's nicer up north, or at least cooler....have a great weekend! I take it you mean SF no? I go up there from time to time, I absolutely love it up there! And you might run into Goofy, he'll be going in and out of wig shops I think...ha ha ha!

[painterlady13]

The other comments are right on about finding a liver doctor.  But you need to think about finding a new PCP who cares about you and not just your weight!!!!  Then maybe you will get the referal you need so that Ins. will pay for it.  
And weight might be a factor but it doesn't sound like that is all.  You say that your liver has grown 3 times the size?  I would really ask my doc about getting me to a hepatologist or look to see if there is a liver treatment center near you for a specialist.

[sfbaygirl]

How does the water steam up? I'm sure Can Do could elaborate. You telling me there are no surfers there? Well in that case it doesn't matter what you look like on the beach.

It's actually pretty warm here today. I remember going to a Giants game in June with my down coat on. Love the weather here!  

Hope all is well, don't get sand in that fax machine, I don't think it will like that. As my granddaughter says, "I can't like that! It's not my favorite!" Have a great time.

[Pdilly]

They need to dig deeper into your liver tests.  There is something amiss and they need to dig to find it.  Listen to your body.  It tells you when something is not right. You know it now make your doctors find it.  Have them do the complete cammit of the liver tests to rule anything out there  or refer you to a heptologist for more tests.

[Mister beagle bailey]

Goofy , I'm glad you finally had your PCR done.  I believe you guys are on your way and soon you'll be posting that your SVR.  Then you'll be able to get on with the best part of the rest of your lives.  

Beagle