soreness in liver area and around back side

Question

iam 1a and stage 2 and grade 2 and relapsed back in Aug. my liver seems sore or kidney area.. is it normal to have spasm that come and go with this disease, at times it dont hurt then other times it bothers me like dull aching. any suggestions? i dont feel sick and iam not jaundice at all.. please help anyone

Bali05 · Answer

I am glad I found your post.
I have symptoms that no doctor was relating to hep c neither before nor after dx.
It is a mixed blessing because if I did not have them I would not have been
able to find out I was infected.
I keep hearing how the liver does not feel any pain but the capsule around it
can built up fluid , stretch ect...
I have abdominal pain , burning,stabbing,soarness,aching you name it.
Left side , right side , middle ,sides and back. It comes and goes in different
intensities and different areas mostly starts in the afternoon.
I had an ultrasound in March another one end of Aug showing everything
perfectly normal. I had 6 doctors palpatate my liver and all said it was not enlarged.
I did FibroSure and FibroScan both F2 , ALT 61,VL 100K IU/ml.
Nothing in me labs or tests is extreme only my symptoms are extreme.
 Before I had all the tests done I just had the diagnosis with the symptoms.
It was sheer horror because it made me feel like I was in much worse shape than
I am.
Anyway until this day no one has an explanation for my symptoms. All I know for 
sure is that they are chronic and the only chronic illness I have is hep C
so it must be what some call hep c sx although nobody can tell me exactly
what this is.

puppiepaws · Answer

Hey everyone i know its been awhile, but i have been thru alot, first of all the pain i was experiencing was shingles that came up on my back,so the Dr. put me on Valtrex short dosage, then week later i had a molar pulled and root canal, then today her iam with freakin ear ache and bronchitis.. and they put me on Z-Pack.. Hopefully i will be back up to par with in a few days..

nygirl7 · Answer

The liver does not contain any nerves that could be feeling pain. Generally it is something else that we relate to liver pain and while there always has been discussion of the capsule that surrounding the liver being stretched and that is what feels the pain - generally it would be while someone was on treatment and it was shrinking.  Otherwise it would have to be DRASTIC inflammation occurring at once and that would mean significant damage happening quickly.

I would check and see if perhaps there is another cause.

jessiejames1973 · Answer

thanks for replying
54 years and only s1/g1 thats amazing you say you had treatment did you clear? i hope so!! after all your ordeals,

chuckles
glad you are und still,
thanks for your input, 
Jessie

chuckles333 · Answer

I had upper right quadrant pain for quite some time following my diagnosis. Once I had abdomenal pain that lasted about 2 months, bad pain all over the abdomen and really bad on the right side. The doctor did a full set of blood tests and a liver ultra-sound and they all came back as normal as could be expected with an HCV positive patient. He said the pain was unexplainable and suggested I take an anti-depressant for the (imagined) pain. Well the pain finally did go away but it returned from time-to-time, although never as severe or for as long a duration. This all transpired about 3 or 4 years ago. I remember thinking I was gonna die, but no such luck. ;o)
In the interem I've completed TX and so far I'm undetectable. It's been about 2-1/2 months since EOT and I'm still getting URQ pains from time-to-time. Maybe it wasn't HCV related at all. Maybe I am imagining it. In any case I'm still here.

meakea · Answer

My liver bx, last year before treatment, was G1/S1 and I most likely have had Hep C for 54 years (from a transfusion I had when I was born). So, side pain does not necessarily translate into a liver that is in horrible shape.

jessiejames1973 · Answer

listen please 
i do not think you have gall stones because it is usually a sharpe pain, but please get some bloods done to put your mind at rest, did you achieve SVR ?
have you had tx?
this sounds like symptoms of hep c, you know the condition of your liver (last year) and so it sounds like you are NOTt about to die, but please get some TEST to put your self at rest .

Jessie

jessiejames1973 · Answer

thanks for replying so glad to hear you are und , keep up the good work!

Meakea

thanks for your reply too, cant believe what you went through before finding out you had hep c !, again can i ask you what condition your liver is in~? iam looking for comparisons to help myself and others,
thank you 
Jessie

Mary4now · Answer

My understanding is the liver does not feel pain  however if the liver is inflammed I think the stretching can cause pain.  Also it is said that you might feel referred pain into the right shoulder.
There is also a part of the intestine that tucks up next to the liver that can feel pain, and the GI is directly linked to the nervous system, so if you are stressed, anxious, etc. that may contribute.
This is my theory based on my limited knowledge, but it goes something like that.
That area of the intestine is also where gas gets trapped, but you are correct that if you are feeling it more in your back, it could be kidney infection.  One thing you can do is make a fist and tap on the area on you back, if it is sensitive that is one sign, or you could go to the doctor, who would do the same thing.and other things.

puppiepaws · Answer

my liver was stage 2 and grade 2 a year ago and iam not jaudice at all, just get dull aching pain in that upper right area, hard to explain where.. i do have hep c, but iam thinking i have gallstones, they come and go... i wish they would go away or the dull aching pain i hate.. cause when it starts i get scared and anxiety kicks in and i feel hypeventalating coming on. stinks.. iam just wondering if gallstones can make this pain come and go regular.. i dont have jaundice at all or whitening of the eyes.. iam just scared it could be liver cancer..iam so new new to all this health stuff... i dont drink or smoke or do bad things... i live for JESUS!!

jonney4141 · Answer

i am 1b stage 1 which is not so bad, but at my age it's best to get it treated now, that way it's taken care of and not sitting on my mind and getting worse. i also am undetectable at 12 weeks, and 6months and that liver biopsy was a piece of cake, i blew everything out of porportion.

meakea · Answer

I had the same pain that jonney4141 mentioned for probably 10 years before my Hep C was diagnosed.  My doc told me I must have cracked a rib (I didn't) and then they took out my gallbladder without much evidence to do so.  I should have been more vocal about that but I did what the doc told me needed to be done and had the surgery.  The pain continued on and off over the next several years and then -- Hep C diagnosis.

So, for as much as they say your liver doesn't hurt, I believe it does whether it's by referred pain or whatever.  

By the way, the pain doesn't necessarily mean anything as far as how good or bad your liver is.

jessiejames1973 · Answer

hi
i also found ut this way, can i ask what condition your liver is in? as i have not had biopsy nd i am wondering what damage may have been done, 
feel freeto say sod off

thanks 
Jessie

jonney4141 · Answer

the pain is how i found out i had hep c, i kept getting pain in right side ,right below ribs, and it felt like i had broken my ribs, it would last maybe a week or more go away and withing a few months maybe come back. doc finally sent me to rhuematologist, my hep doc also had me get the tests for gallbladder and all that other stuff with everything coming back negative, i also heard that liver has no feeling, so i don't know what it could be except it's the only way i would of known i had the hep c??? been on treatment for 8 months and have not had that pain again, but now experiencing bouts of pain on upper left side near ribs, i am also suffering from severe anemia which i need to get straight. anyways hope you can get something out of this..

becksta29 · Answer

i get aches in my liver area have been for yrs on and off,no1 else i know without hep gets the aches so i think its my liver...inflamation id say IMO cos our liver cant feel pain iv heard.
my aches got heaps worse when i started tx and my LFTs have gone down even more since tx so the better my LFTs get the worse my liver aches.
my LFTs have always been ok...so stop thinkin u r dying,it could just b part of havin hepc...doesnt mean our liver is on its way out necessarily.
thats just what iv experienced,we r all different.
good luck.

puppiepaws · Answer

I dont drink or smoke over 15 yrs or more now...

puppiepaws · Answer

guys yall make me feel better, i appreciate all of u.. I just hate feeling this way.. I was so scared but iam gonna try maybe to see dr in am.. cause iam thinking i have kidney infection.. cause its more to the back side.. Yall have rested my anxiety.. can dehydration cause this.. i started drinking cranberry juice to flush my system and taken milk thistle also.. I just wanted allof yall to know yall are one great support group..

jessiejames1973 · Answer

i have the same symptoms as, for me its a sx of hep c , it does not mean it is for you!
i doubt it is gall stones or kidney stones as these sx tend to be sharpe pains.
stop drinking if you do, get some bloods done could be inflamation, or could be something else un related, try to be calm,

jessie