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Apple founder Steve Jobs dies

I just saw this online.
His transplant was close to the same time as mine, April 2009.
I've kept an eye on his health while always wondering if he really didn't have hep C.
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http://news.stanford.edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.html
446474 tn?1446351282
"My third story is about death.

When I was 17, I read a quote that went something like: "If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you'll most certainly be right." It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: "If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?" And whenever the answer has been "No" for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.

Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart."

- Steve Jobs from 2005 Stanford Commencement Speech.

Thank you Steve for helping to change California law so drivers in California must answer the question...Do you want to be an organ and tissue donor? A) Yes add my name to the donor registry B) I do not wish to register at this time.
- The change went into effect July 1, 2011

R.I.P. Steve
374652 tn?1494815035
Profound Hector, also thinking what would I want my last thought to be, that would encourage us to think that way as much as possible, creating a more conscious life.  It is so true that no one knows when that last moment will be, surely just driving a car is a risk,
truly "knowing" how impermanent life is would change us to realize what is important.  it is amazing.....

545538 tn?1295995617
Thank you for sharing that. It is truly profound!
317787 tn?1473362051
Thanks to you for this information.  It made me curious and so read all of it.
Very profound
Dee
Avatar universal
Good eye Hector.  I had no idea about that California law.
Avatar universal
Just read this:

"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't
be trapped  by dogma - which is living with the results of other
people's thinking. Don't let  the noise of other's opinions drown out
your own inner voice. And most  important, have the courage to follow
your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly
want to become. Everything else is secondary."

~ Steve Jobs
408795 tn?1324939275
Yeah, terrible news.  The world has lost a genius of astronimical proportions.  Sad...  
446474 tn?1446351282
Truly sad and tragic.

Reality cuts through to the truth.
There were so many nay sayers criticizing Steve for going out of state to get a liver transplant. I am listed at two transplant centers. Is that a crime? I just want to have the best chance to live even if for a few more years. Just as people want the best odds of clearing hepatitis C, we want the best odds to continue living. What are we suppose to do? Give up and throw in the towel. I venture that any one of these critics would do the same if they were in our position, facing death.

Also if you don't live here in California you have no idea how long it takes to get a transplant especially a liver transplant. We have the top two of three wait times in the entire U.S. At Stanford where Steve was treated and at UCSF were I am being treated we have the longest wait times in the whole country. Right now at UCSF they are transplant blood type O patients at MELD 40 and higher. That is how desperate the situation is. A MELD of 40 is as high as it technically can get. When you reach 40 you are so ill there is a good chance you won't survive the transplant operation itself.

When Steve needed his liver transplant over 3,400 Californians were waiting for a new liver in 2009. Only 671 got one. 400 died while waiting.

To have the additional condition of cancer, a patient needs to be transplanted sooner rather then later or the cancer will kill you long before liver failure ever does.

I wish people would walk a mile in a patient's shoes before criticizing someone with a life-threatening illnesses. There is no chance of cure or even living a few more years without a transplant. If anyone should understand this it is the hepatitis community.

Okay I'll get of my soap box...
I needed to vent.
Hector
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Thanks for sharing your perspective Hector. I can only imagine what it feels like.

Being an organ donor since my first driver's license was issued, I can't understand why we should have a shortage of organs. I mean, sheesh, just check the box - it's not like you can take it with you.  Right?
419309 tn?1326506891
"I wish people would walk a mile in a patient's shoes before criticizing someone with a life-threatening illnesses"
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You hit the nail on the head, Hector.  I remember when Jobs was transplanted, folks were whispering, and tiptoeing around me, and some folks took the objectionable stance, expecting that I would be angry because my husband was being evaluated for TP at the time.  Even doctors avoided the topic, and it was quite an experience, seeing so many folks who passed judgment.  

Sure, I could have chosen to be angry or self-righteous about it, but I didn't see it that way, I just couldn't see it that way. If anything, I was happy for Mr. Jobs... a man who has contributed so much to shape the destiny of the world certainly has a right to shape his own.

We've all chosen our own path in life, and each one of us does what we can to hold on to the life we know with everything we have... what Jobs did is what any one with a sane mind would have done in his shoes... fight for your life with everything you've got with what you know.  In my heart I know folks like yourself and my husband and probably anyone who has had to face the reality of transplantation as the 'save' feel as I did and still do: "more power to you."  EVERY patient who gets a liver transplant is a success story, period.  RIP, Steve Jobs, and may God bless his family with peace and comfort.

Thanks for lending me your soapbox, Hector :). ~eureka
92903 tn?1309908311
Said with grace. You fit well on that box.
Avatar universal
I can't remember when you start your journey with TX again
I think it's soon, I wish younthe very best outcome OH!
92903 tn?1309908311
Not to minimize Steve's impact on society, but imagine how we would have benefited had he turned his attention to the bathroom suite instead of the computer. iCrap, iWipe, iB'det, iRoid, iBowl... bucket fulls of opportunies missed.  
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RIP Steve Jobs.  

No worries, there will always be visionaries like GoodyDad who will prevent missed opportunities in the world of bathroom humor.
179856 tn?1333550962
I wonder at the potential profit or the usefulness of the iwipe compared the the iphone/pad or pod?

Thank you Steve.
Avatar universal
Steve Jobs was such a bright light.  He will be missed.  RIP Steve Jobs.

Not too sure it takes a visionary to come up with potty jokes though.  Most 5th grade boys can manage that.
92903 tn?1309908311
Most 5th grade boys can string together cans with kite string too. We're taking disruption, though. Like egg salad with beer disruption.  
362971 tn?1201990634
Don't forget eating White Castle Hamburgers after a night of drinking. The next morning we really needed the iWipe.
Avatar universal
I don't know how some of you can conjure up such nonsense.
A man died, his legacy lives on as well as more ideas he left
for his company, Apple.

You stand and make fun of someone who has passed,
You be on the other end , watch as they lower your loved one
to the ground, but before they do.....hug your loved one , one
more time..........some of you have no standards or morals.  

Rest in Peace Steve

1770279 tn?1321076678
I picked up His biography today. Searching it as best I could in the last few hours the only mention of his liver trouble beginnings was he believed he had a hormone imbalance and opted for alternative remedies until cancer required the transplant. I think his family as another addition to the long list if good things he did with the ba jillion dollars he made is to disclose to the public if he had HCV and raise awareness. We don't care how he got it. Remove the stigma and promote that everyone born between 1945 and 1965 with no insurance have free testing.
I'd like Joe Louis 's family to disclose if he had hcv as well. Public service soap box. Sorry for the rant.
Avatar universal
If you read the entire book you will see the author and everyone that
he interviewed  told the truth.  If he had HCV it would have came out.

I f you've seen someone pass from pancreatic cancer and then
seen someone pass with HCV you would know the difference.
Because there is a difference.

He had pancreatic cancer, not HCV. in my opinion.
From everything that I've personally experienced and everything I've read
It was pancreatic cancer.

Just because he had a liver TP does not mean he had HCV.

I too believe in being an advocate and testing etc. but only if it's the truth.

Happy reading!


Avatar universal
I agree with angel, besides wheather Steve or smokin joe had HCV is really no bodys business but their own........... Being rich or famous shouldn't matter when it comes to what we want to disclose about our health.
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