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Does colloidal silver or MMS work?
I sure hope so. I am also taking Oxymatrine and I believe it is working. There are a few new developments such as Vertex that are getting FDA approval soon. I just searched "cure for hep-c". Thanks, Rockin Ron in Orlando
Just wondering if you are okay. We haven't heard back from you. Hope you are doing better. Marcia
I know a lot of this information can be discouraging but, I have several friends who were stage 3, did treatment, cleared (some of these people were over 50 yrs, were 1a, and had to do it twice!)...Most of them report dropping a grade in their follow up biopsies, and are still clear...Stage 3 is the "conversion" stage of fibrosis to cirrhosis...If you have habits that are continuing to encourage/ accelerate the damage (whether they be consuming alcohol, eating magic mushrooms, or taking ibuprofen), they need to be stopped. The Hep C gets a better foothold when the liver and immune system is weakened...This is why, in conventional treatment, they use medications that ramp up your immune system as well as use a viral suppressant to hold down the hep C so it can be killed easier...I hope this helps a bit...Take care...((((((((((((HUGZ)))))))))) ~Melinda
I don't understand what you mean by that w are saying that you are gonna die and that you are not a good candidate for interferon.
I don't think anyone knows enough about your situation to say anything like that. And I'm really sorry if you misunderstood our replies.
There are plenty of people with stage 3 fibrosis who are treating at the moment. There are even some with stage 4. I don't know what your doc meant by his comment, I don't understand why he suggested you needed a new liver when you are stage 3. But if you are currently drinking, you will definitely need to stop to be eligible for treatment.
I don't know what the rules are in the US, but here in Denmark one has to be alcohol free to be able to treat.
I'm sorry if any of my comments have offende you in any way, it is not my intention.
Marcia
I don't think anyone knows enough about your situation to say anything like that. And I'm really sorry if you misunderstood our replies.
There are plenty of people with stage 3 fibrosis who are treating at the moment. There are even some with stage 4. I don't know what your doc meant by his comment, I don't understand why he suggested you needed a new liver when you are stage 3. But if you are currently drinking, you will definitely need to stop to be eligible for treatment.
I don't know what the rules are in the US, but here in Denmark one has to be alcohol free to be able to treat.
I'm sorry if any of my comments have offende you in any way, it is not my intention.
Marcia
MMS Didnt work for these guys.
"I have been recently diagnosed with Hepatitis C, genotype 1b. I have no symptoms, but my viral load is very high (over 14 million iu/ml). I am giving MMS a try. Started 2 weeks ago. I will have a viral load test in one week and see the results. If no significant change, I guess I have to dow hat my doctor recommends and take the interferon/ribavirin treatment for 1 year. Anyone interested following up? or any suggestions?
A big disappointment. My doctor has just called with the results of my viral load test. It went down from 7.16 logs in January to 6.67 logs last week. This decrease is well within the normal range of load fluctuation.
sorry to hear the news from your VL test. Did you see any improvement in any of the other blood tests?
I have been on MMS also and I am meeting with my med. dr. on the 18th to look at my blood test results (not the viral load however). I am hoping to see some improvement in the liver enzymes and the rest, but I guess I shouldn't get my hopes up...
After 4 years of alternative therapies I am pretty sure I will start the interferon treatment in the fall. I'm just tired and it feels like it is time.
I wish you all the best on your journey."
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Above is not my quote. Just thought i'd make that clear.
I'd start looking for more effective supps than the ones you have chosen.
At Stage 3 you are an excellent candidate for Interferon.
Stop messing about with your Liver and do the Damn Tx.
Or you could just wait till Stage 4 but then why wait.
All the Best
CS
"I have been recently diagnosed with Hepatitis C, genotype 1b. I have no symptoms, but my viral load is very high (over 14 million iu/ml). I am giving MMS a try. Started 2 weeks ago. I will have a viral load test in one week and see the results. If no significant change, I guess I have to dow hat my doctor recommends and take the interferon/ribavirin treatment for 1 year. Anyone interested following up? or any suggestions?
A big disappointment. My doctor has just called with the results of my viral load test. It went down from 7.16 logs in January to 6.67 logs last week. This decrease is well within the normal range of load fluctuation.
sorry to hear the news from your VL test. Did you see any improvement in any of the other blood tests?
I have been on MMS also and I am meeting with my med. dr. on the 18th to look at my blood test results (not the viral load however). I am hoping to see some improvement in the liver enzymes and the rest, but I guess I shouldn't get my hopes up...
After 4 years of alternative therapies I am pretty sure I will start the interferon treatment in the fall. I'm just tired and it feels like it is time.
I wish you all the best on your journey."
__________________________________
Above is not my quote. Just thought i'd make that clear.
I'd start looking for more effective supps than the ones you have chosen.
At Stage 3 you are an excellent candidate for Interferon.
Stop messing about with your Liver and do the Damn Tx.
Or you could just wait till Stage 4 but then why wait.
All the Best
CS
At stage 3 no one's saying you're going to die. Try your gastro's suggestion of going to meetings. Clean up for 6 months, do treatment, and see what happens. The beer will stay cold.
I guess you are telling me i`m gonna die cause i am not a good "candidate" for interferon. I know you are trying to help but it is very discouraging. I am waiting to see if Gregg Allman recovers. If he makes it, it will be encouraging.I heard one guy say he is undetectable.Good luck to all. Love Rockin Ron
Good call on the silver - topical veterinary use is about what it's good for. Silver is a proven anti-bacterial and that's about it.
And BTW, congratulations on SVR.
And BTW, congratulations on SVR.
messosilver is the one that got me right after I was diagnosed. I still have most of it but did take some. There are a lot of German Shepherd breeders that have talked about using it for ear infections & putting it on cuts, guess I'll save it for that. BTW 5 or so months post TX and UND so far.
Denise
Denise
wow, thank you all for your help. i am shriviling up. i think i might be getting better, then reality hits. stage 3 fibrosis.my gastro put his arm around me, whispered 'if i were you. i`d be goin to AA meetings everyday and getting it documented cause that`s the only way your gonna get a new liver ' thanks doc
How colloidal silver works is it (this may be over simplifying it a bit) "coats" the blood cells, enabling them, especially the white ones to resist break down from bacteria and viruses...(meaning, they last longer in your system, giving you immune system a bit more to work with). It's VERY important, if you make your own, to use pure silver electrodes, not anything that may be mixed with other elements...I'm sure you've heard of the "grey lady" who got algeria from using it...Well, her silver wasn't the pure kind, and it saturated her fat cells, giving her the weird blue-grey look...Also know that, after a month, the silver colloids begin to precipitate out, leaving a weaker solution with time...
Prior to treatment, I used SST (sho-saiko-to), a hepatitis treatment used in Japan, as well as one dose of intravenous elemental germanium...The SST won't cure, but it seems to be a good liver healer, and the germanium is still in the dog lab part of the studies...The germanium is promising with cancerous liver tumors in dogs being cured with it. (since all cancers are caused by viruses, it made sense to me that just maybe it would work on hep C too)... Currently, the studies for people are on hold until funding is available. (I used one dose and in 5 days, my viral load went from 463,000 to 16,000..) I regret not having the time to do a second dose prior to starting treatment...I too, was determined to find the "holy grail" and avoid having to do conventional treatment...Hope some of this helps...So far, the only thing I found closest to the "sure thing" is the conventional treatment... ~Melinda
Prior to treatment, I used SST (sho-saiko-to), a hepatitis treatment used in Japan, as well as one dose of intravenous elemental germanium...The SST won't cure, but it seems to be a good liver healer, and the germanium is still in the dog lab part of the studies...The germanium is promising with cancerous liver tumors in dogs being cured with it. (since all cancers are caused by viruses, it made sense to me that just maybe it would work on hep C too)... Currently, the studies for people are on hold until funding is available. (I used one dose and in 5 days, my viral load went from 463,000 to 16,000..) I regret not having the time to do a second dose prior to starting treatment...I too, was determined to find the "holy grail" and avoid having to do conventional treatment...Hope some of this helps...So far, the only thing I found closest to the "sure thing" is the conventional treatment... ~Melinda
Agreeing with Marcia - if you are looking to be cured of the disease there is only one way to do that unfortunately. Vertex looks promising and we've seen a few people with success however it won't be approved for some time for the general population (if ever).
If you have aggressive liver damage you will need to seek a heptologist and begin the road to recovery. Don't waste your money on any of the things you read about online, they will not cure you and will only drain your wallet. Nothing more. If they would work - for anyone - we would have all tried that before doing combo treatment.
If you have aggressive liver damage you will need to seek a heptologist and begin the road to recovery. Don't waste your money on any of the things you read about online, they will not cure you and will only drain your wallet. Nothing more. If they would work - for anyone - we would have all tried that before doing combo treatment.
Do the work? Depends what you're looking for...
Are you looking for a cure for Hep C? If yes, unfortunately only the conventional therapy works. Unfortunately nothing else can eradicate the virus.
To colloidal silver.... This is what you may experience, if you take it for a while... check out this link... msnbc.msn.com/id/22536241/
About MMS, I don't even want to comment. It might help with Malaria, but Hep C is a very, very complex disease, with a virus that keeps on mutating....
Beware of all the sites preying on newly diagnosed, desperate people.
And beware of someone called Lloyd, too. They are all promising incredible cures to sell their products. It's disgusting.
Of course there are a lot f supplements and herbs which can help alleviate symptoms and help the liver to regenerate. But as long as the virus is in our body, it will further damage the liver. The rate it is doing this by is individual, thus unpredictable.
Marcia
Are you looking for a cure for Hep C? If yes, unfortunately only the conventional therapy works. Unfortunately nothing else can eradicate the virus.
To colloidal silver.... This is what you may experience, if you take it for a while... check out this link... msnbc.msn.com/id/22536241/
About MMS, I don't even want to comment. It might help with Malaria, but Hep C is a very, very complex disease, with a virus that keeps on mutating....
Beware of all the sites preying on newly diagnosed, desperate people.
And beware of someone called Lloyd, too. They are all promising incredible cures to sell their products. It's disgusting.
Of course there are a lot f supplements and herbs which can help alleviate symptoms and help the liver to regenerate. But as long as the virus is in our body, it will further damage the liver. The rate it is doing this by is individual, thus unpredictable.
Marcia
Colloidal silver was used by those who could afford it prior to antibiotics being invented. I think if it cured HVC this site would exist, as we'd all be virus free :-).
In saying that, I have used it as part of a plan my naturopath put me on some years ago. I think anything like this should be prescribed by a naturopath and isn't a cureall in itself. (thanks for reminding me it's in the cupboard as I believe it can be used topically, albeit very diluted - and there are different strengths and types available).
Good luck - can't help you with the information re Vertex - I'm at the bottom of a civilized globe :-) and not eligible at this stage for other meds - I haven't heard of the Oxymatrine but will google it - thanks.
In saying that, I have used it as part of a plan my naturopath put me on some years ago. I think anything like this should be prescribed by a naturopath and isn't a cureall in itself. (thanks for reminding me it's in the cupboard as I believe it can be used topically, albeit very diluted - and there are different strengths and types available).
Good luck - can't help you with the information re Vertex - I'm at the bottom of a civilized globe :-) and not eligible at this stage for other meds - I haven't heard of the Oxymatrine but will google it - thanks.
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