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Ok I need to know if I need to keep using these damn condoms? I have been married 14 years and dont plan on that changing. So no mutiple partners or anything. The Dr said it would be safe not to use protection and just get my hubby tested every so often. We have used condoms since we found out about Hep C. My hubby is clean, test came back perfect. He doesnt want to use protection anymore but I am not so sure. If he cant get it from me then why test every so often? This is starting to be a big deal around here. I finally told him to be happy with what he got because it may all end when I start tx. I hope not but chances are they will. So the ? is use protection or not?
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206807 tn?1331936184
I just hope my parts grow back after tx. I won’t even look in the mirror any more.
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250084 tn?1303307435
  Just saw that my internet whacko posted on this back than. Froggy Dan, than to be The Frog and now...who knows what the next name will be! Wonder why that profile shows up if he was banned on that name, and now the other too?

  
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250084 tn?1303307435
  Just re-read this thread, too funny. Do remember it now!

Albany...your post "all i can think about, want it more", LOL. Could also be your in your prime dear :} 30's were great sex years.Even drugs can't kill the 'prime time' :}  And just to let you know....the 'prime' last awhile :}
  Or did until tx :{

                                                                           LL
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250084 tn?1303307435
  Started reading and thought Meki was back posting today!

Joseebus, Welcome and I admire your ability to be so open in what many are afraid to discuss. I have a close family member that is gay and watched him suffer thru the ‘hiding’ years of his life, which led him to the ‘wrong’ gay relationships at first. Glad things are working well for you both :} during tx.
  
Meki….wink, wink! All I’m going to say :}

I agree in the point of different partners thru life, different sexual experimentation , different risk factors, etc.
( I think that boils down to the best, most frequent, playful sex is the riskiest, ho hum sex less risk. J/K…sort of. LOL!)

In my research on sex ( you just have to grin a lot in these post:}…..the only time I think I’d be more concerned is during menses’ -if you do than cover up. Just makes sense to me due to the presence of blood and if your having that …let’s say not married 50 years sex…..more possibility of tearing, etc.
  I also repeat again, my liver specialist and another Dr. and the trial nurse have all told me no need for the condoms-but did make the comments on more caution during menses , tho all still slim chance.  (All of these comments refer to faithful, monogamous sex.)

Someone correct me if I am wrong tho, and of course this would not apply to gay sex…..but isn’t it true the female is at more risk for contracting? (or I guess in gay sex the receiving partner??)

As per sex during tx  “Mr. will probably never need Viagra in his life now after ‘stand up’ performing thru tx”   : }…Beamish……..we’ve heard a lot from women about it, and for me it’s been the only thing that has made me ‘just don’t care’! It’s the fatigue, sickly feeling as trust me….I am IN bed a lot and bored!

  Time for a poll on sex on tx for women and men…
A. Wanted more
B. Wanted it, had to throw up half way into it :}
C. Helped feel better.
D. Get the h*ll away from me.
E. If you’ll massage my painful muscles first :}
F. Divorced during tx cause my partner went down the street for it!
Oh yeah….and G. had a plastic partner so just deflated her during tx …. :}

BTW Jim...... I went shopping for a male blow up doll for a friends 45th birthday (who is too crabby to get a real date!) and I think we may need to upgrade your Jenna soon! Didn't get her one as they were not $29.00 and wasn't spending that on a gag gift. Just how old is Jenna and would she consider an arrangement like ol' Hugh Hefner where you can bring in more 'dolls' ??

LL
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sex was my favorite antidote for trx blues-endomorphins y'know?...now it is just grandslam,.wonderful exercise
jmjm-how longterm is this relationship?.i mean a $29 sex toy nowadays would maybe get ya one rubber glove&a drop of lubricant....and just what did happen to jenna's teeth...not that You miss them,i'm sure....
how can ya resisat a sex posting...and yeah i sure loved reading meki's remarks(way back when..)...someone is a very lucky fella..
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365132 tn?1202961956
Who the hell feels like having sex on this suff????????????
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331963 tn?1195058455
I agree. I think that many of these reports on sexual transmission wind up tainted with drug use, other STDs, and other factors that influence these sexual transmission rates sometimes up to 15% and as such freaks people out about sex and HCV. I swear if I hear one more "Pam Anderson hep C hooker" comment...

It definitely comes down to an individual relationship analysis I suppose. I'm actually pretty damn "vanilla" by gay standards so I'm not too concerned about it. lol

Have fun, stay sexually active, but don't go crazy and just use common sense. I think that pretty much sums it up.
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"The bottom line is that hep C is NOT a sexually transmitted disease as long as blood-to-blood contact is not involved. "
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Welcome and I couldn't resist; excellent pun in your last paragraph.  : )

I don't think it's too much information and besides HCV is not for the weak of heart anyway.  Sooner or later we have to face and deal with all aspects of the virus.  Thanks for posting your information, solutions and results.

I want to clarify or even undercut one point.  Even with hetersexual sexual relations there is a range of infection rates.  As they say in advertisements; "your actual milage may vary".  The deal is that so far as sex we all have different experiences.  It's true even for ourselves at different times in our lives and with the same or different partners.  One comparison might be between 20 year olds in the "honeymoon" phase of a relationship versus folks that have been married for 50 years.  Although both are hetersexual relationships there is going to be a difference in frequency, duration, and lets just say"enthusiasm" involving sex between the two cases.  That will impact (love using that word in a transmission thread) on the transmission rates.

Just as all "straight" sex is not the same, the experience also varies in gay sex.  There are some cases where the likelihood of sexual transmission increases.  There have been reports of increased transmission rates where group or enduro sessions take place, particularly with the use of meth.  I am not trying to paint this as a picture of normal MSM relations but only want to point out that it is on the radar and ends up impacting on the transmission rates.

I appreciate your post.  I am of the opinion that just as so called straight couples can have safe(r) sex while one partner is infected, I think it is important for other gay couples to get information on the same.  A lot of living with this disease is learning how to live with it without (or with less) fear.

best,
willy
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As some of you know, I have a monogamous relationship with my sex-doll, "Jenna".

While latex is quite flexible, Jenna probably can't outperform "Meki" in terms of "having sex every single imaginable way", but then again, she only cost $29.95. And let me add that she requires very little mainteance,  as Jenna will perform the same whether I take her out to dinner nice or not.

As to precautions, no sharing of razors (she might explode) and no sharing of tooth brushes (she has no teeth). Still, at least until I became SVR, every few months  I took an air sample and send it off to HR's lab for HCV analysis via those very senstive tests. They all came back UND although one result did suggest a trace of helium, which may account for the fact that Jenna always seems to rise for the occasion.

I do understand that some of you may have real relationships with an actual spouse, but there are alternatives out there.

-- Jim

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331963 tn?1195058455
Wow. Some great laughs in here! :-)

Just thought I'd put in my two cents being a male in a gay relationship (and I hope I'm not sharing too much lol).

My partner was diagnosed as a "recent exposure" back in October (we suspect exposure in late August/early September) and he has been on treatment since. He's a geno 2 and he thankfully is responding to treatment wonderfully.

Anyway - As soon as we found out about it I got tested and was told by my doctor who knows about my lifestyle that the sexual risk just really isn't there yet condoms for anal are a good idea as it is easier to damage the lining of the rectum than it is to damage the lining of the vagina and since anal sex can be rough, it could be easier for him to "rough himself up" inside me which could cause blood-to-blood contact.

I came back negative (as I thought I would) and it was a bit of a relief as I've read all these horrible things regarding HCV sexual transmission and gay men - but then again it was on an HIV site so I don't know - so knowing that we could remain sexually active was a great relief to me. Granted about 80-90% of our sex life is oral (which the risk is practically non-existent as long as you're not into shaving and bloodsports too), yet knowing that anal with protection was still okay was awesome.

It's really helped him while he's been on treatment. I think he was really worried about having given it to me in that 6 week window between exposure and testing. Granted there are days when he's very lethargic and doesn't feel like doing much, but the days that he's "on" it's wonderful and it seems to really help him deal with the stress of this.

Just my two cents from a different perspective. The bottom line is that hep C is NOT a sexually transmitted disease as long as blood-to-blood contact is not involved.
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217229 tn?1192762404
sidetracking?

Is that a new position?

LMAO!
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298631 tn?1210625430
Man, these threads sure do get sidetracked, but the siderails here are pretty amusing. :-)

I read a good bit about sexual transmission and also talked to numerous docs. While none were entirely committal, they all agreed (as do published studies) that transmission through monogamous hetero sex is very, very slim.

As with Meki, I was undiagnosed for 20+ years, and within that time I had unprotected sex with my partner for 12-13 years, with no regard to caution. After several years, I ended up getting herpes from him (which I knew going in that he had) but he never got HCV.

These days, I have sex w/o condom with my current husband but we ARE very careful about any possible exchange of blood. No intercourse during period, no use of razor, toothbrush (yuk anyway!), nail clippers etc. He gets tested annually, and he also got vaccinated against A & B.

These days it is a non-issue as I am into 8 mos of tx and sure don't feel like sex. Gonna try to work on that though! ;-)

Sex w/o condom does pose some risk so doc will usually advise safe sex practices, but the risk vs the impracticality didn't weigh for me. Take a look at some of the studies...

all the best,

Robin
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I still think that sex with my partner was&is the best anti-depressant in this "journey" even if after week 40 i sometimes feel to tired to do it...and don't forget : in your nickname is the word "hope"  ;-)  hope&success,thats the best i hope for you !
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287900 tn?1218644218
lmao this thread is too funny...thanks for the laughs.  
FYI, for anyone in Toronto area, this weekend is the "everything to do with sex show" ... and I know that there are more toys for both women AND men there.  I have worked in the 'adult toy boutique' once before at a sex show, had great fun, and got paid, and hopefully, if not sick with Sx, will be working there this weekend.  Here is the link to the website:
http://www.everythingtodowithsex.com/
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hey!! i thot it was sum kinda power tool too....used in the bedroom and mebbe doubled as a reading lite?....no batteries is great . can you recharge it by shaking yr moneymaker?
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217229 tn?1192762404
Manny you goof... And gauf... no kidding? Double entendre with a side of sarcasm? ROFLMAO!

And gauf... Of course... LOL!

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144210 tn?1273088782
In that case, I already own two.
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299628 tn?1208382598
So does a light actually *** on? If the power went out, wood I be able to find my way around? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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217229 tn?1192762404
ROFLMAO!!!

It's all hand ---er--- uhm... action.

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144210 tn?1273088782
I don't see a place for batteries. No Batteries!?!  What a rip off!
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179856 tn?1333547362
OK Wikipedia even has pictures next to it.  Gosh how did I get this old without even knowing about such things? Holy cow.

It looks like there are different kinds for the different matching body parts that open Gauf.......uh huh really.  Mouth...hiney...uh places if you get it.
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179856 tn?1333547362
LOL now I HAVE to google it - I'm at work but so I doubt anything will come up but I'm afraid to go home and look it up tonight and have my son catch me - oh my God that would kill him! You know us old people never had sex in our lives or something...or we stopped after we hit 25.  But gosh I want to know.
I hate being so damn nosey!
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just couldn't resist bringing this thread back up to the top o' the pile.....anyone have another sex comment,experience,unusual 'toy' they wish to share?..can we shed a little light on this particular device?i dare not goggle-afraid it would attract spamming ladys from wired world...no such thing as a free lunch or look....
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144210 tn?1273088782
no demonstration?  Um, why would hubby need more than one? Are they disposable?
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