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worried about censorship,loss of membership
I am very upset about what is going on this forum. I thought the offending posts by Reverie and Forseegood were sophomoric and chose to pass over them. But now that people
thanks for the encouragement, but that's just one reason, there is the depression thing (the scariest of all, cause physical symptoms, to me, aren't as scary as mental symptoms) and the fact that I'm still wondering about Vertex, being their trials aren't too far from me...but yeah, that's one reason, I hate to have things alter my mind, or make me feel out of control, you know what it is...and you have really given me some things to chew on, these boards are great for that, Doctors can't tell you live experience, cause they aren't taking these meds...anyway, thanks a lot...
Cindy...thanks for laughing at my lame jokes! And they are really pretty lame, you must be a nice person...
Cindy...thanks for laughing at my lame jokes! And they are really pretty lame, you must be a nice person...
LOL Yeah, I always envied my friends too. I kept saying the same thing, well maybe if i try it again....NAH! Last time I had one hit, I fell flat on my face. That was it for me!!
You too!! lol I used to envy my friends that became mellow,calm relaxed from pot. I always said "okay I am going to try it one more time and THIS TIME I am going to get mellow,,,,,yeah right,,that never happened lol.
I remember years ago going to a "TEN YEARS AFTER" concert at the Garden and i couldn't even enjoy it cuz of feeling so paranoid. That was the last concert I ever smoked at.
I remember years ago going to a "TEN YEARS AFTER" concert at the Garden and i couldn't even enjoy it cuz of feeling so paranoid. That was the last concert I ever smoked at.
I am the same way! Back in the day I would lay there wondering when the effects would go away. I was so uptight and paranoid I hated it. If anyone smokes around me, I have to leave the room. Just a tiny bit in the air gets to me. Glad I don't need it for nausea or something, I just couldn't take it!
lol so me, you and foresee get paranoid from pot. ha! Yeah I could never understand how some of my friends would smoke and carry on with life as normal. yuk i don't know why I put all that cr@p in my body back then. The hippie era was nuts.
Plus I am a dead give away when I would smoke. very blue eyes, so if I smoked,everyone knew, including my mother and that was no fun to listen to that lecture. My eyes would get so red that even a 90 year old woman would probably know I was smoking. hehe
Plus I am a dead give away when I would smoke. very blue eyes, so if I smoked,everyone knew, including my mother and that was no fun to listen to that lecture. My eyes would get so red that even a 90 year old woman would probably know I was smoking. hehe
Ya know what,,you have the same worries I had. I was SO worried that because of my extremely paraoid feelings I did get from pot and acid that I was so afraid that these meds would make me feel that way because of the way my brain is usually affected. As soon as I read that this can be a sx to some folks on tx, I REALLY BELIEVED IT WAS GOING TO BE THE ONES LIKE ME WHO HAVE THAT TENDENCY,,,no NOT AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!! I am shocked!! If that is holding you back in any way, push yourself to do it. I bet that your mind WILL NOT BE AFFECTED. NOBODY on earth can get anymore paranoid than me and these drugs are not causing paranoia at all.
Some of the people have had the depression and all that, but it seems your brain and my brain are wired the same concerning this and believe me,,'piece of cake,' I don't even feel like I am taking anything AND not a drop of paranoia.
Don't let that worry hold you back. I bet you will glide thru, just like me. BTW I'd doing Pegasys.
wish you the best!
Some of the people have had the depression and all that, but it seems your brain and my brain are wired the same concerning this and believe me,,'piece of cake,' I don't even feel like I am taking anything AND not a drop of paranoia.
Don't let that worry hold you back. I bet you will glide thru, just like me. BTW I'd doing Pegasys.
wish you the best!
well, no, I had the strong stuff in the 70s also, I just paid extra for it, ha ha! we all have our priorities, and in those days, mine stunk pretty bad...in more ways then one, don't shoot me cause I'm a punster!! he he...
Glad to know I'm not the only one who gets paranoid and anxious if I smoke pot. I really can't understand how it can affect me so negatively, what about all those people that get all relaxed and love it? I guess my chemistry just ain't what it used to be. Plus, pot is one of those products that didn't need improving, but it seems it's gotten a whole lot stronger than the stuff from the 70's.
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Smoke,,haha! not this woman...dem days be long gone. The thought of it makes me sick (and paranoid too hehe)
Smoke,,haha! not this woman...dem days be long gone. The thought of it makes me sick (and paranoid too hehe)
ER! Oh I know the feeling, so ,many times I felt like thats where I should have been.
yeah, I grew to HATE the stuff! It got where I only needed one poke and I got major paranoia. Felt like it kicked in any residual LSD that was hiding in my body somewhere. Ha! who knows if that was possible, but smoking pot became equal to a bad LSD trip, same feeling. I could no longer be a card carrying "hippie member." hehe
Some crazy times back then, glad I made it thru, so many didn't. I'm sure you say the same. That was just a short period of my teen life, thank God.
yeah, I grew to HATE the stuff! It got where I only needed one poke and I got major paranoia. Felt like it kicked in any residual LSD that was hiding in my body somewhere. Ha! who knows if that was possible, but smoking pot became equal to a bad LSD trip, same feeling. I could no longer be a card carrying "hippie member." hehe
Some crazy times back then, glad I made it thru, so many didn't. I'm sure you say the same. That was just a short period of my teen life, thank God.
yeah, it's funny how our bodies tell us what we can do and can't do, I used to love pot in my 20's, then I just started to get paranoid, and really stupid too (maybe I was always really stupid on it, and just didn't know it? ha ha) so I finally had to leave it off (though I sure did a few more tries!) then one day at a party someone gave me a MJ brownie, and I got a panic attack so bad I had to go the ER! Oh, life's lessons!!! have a great week!
you know, you gave me a little hope here...*one* of the things I'm afraid of re treatment, is that when I mood alter with any drug, be it pot or most anything else....I sometimes think it reminds me of having bad acid trips, and I probably "trip" too much on that, like bad feelings, anxiety, etc...and get myself too worked up about it...but you have some of the same issues, and youre still able to treat, etc...
Yeah,,,every once in awhile posts are missing and then takes time for them to appear lol
Foresee,,,Hey No Problem,,,your hands were full!
There was nothing to address on mine as it was just one big joke! lol
Never a dull moment around here,,,I got to admit ha
Foresee,,,Hey No Problem,,,your hands were full!
There was nothing to address on mine as it was just one big joke! lol
Never a dull moment around here,,,I got to admit ha
what you smokin girl??? just kidding, hope youre doing well this weekend (we all deserve it, God knows) and this will appear to you *sometime* today!!!
slogging through these dang Liver Articles? hard for my pea brain...Goofdad's explanations, priceless....
Just wanted to say I'm so, so impressed with so many of you newcomers...to me at least, you are a great asset to this board...
While I can totally see NYGirl's point, that when youre going through such an exhausting, enervating, stressful experience like she's been having for well over a year now, how could you navigate this board without having to ignore a lot of the "negative elements" here (especially when you see that they don't go away, and they just keep going and going despite some people's best efforts to make them stop) So you end up just trying to take the good information and comaraderie you can get from here, and do your best to ignore the rest...Course that's easier to do when that spleen isn't being vented in your direction, so many of us have had to defend ourselves here...
And I wish I could of maybe done a better job of keeping cool under attack, so I don't stoop to a certain level, but I didn't and it is what it is....
Anyway, I can totally see why she and others of us would feel that way.... I think so many of us "old timers" - people who've been here for well over a year or so, have just grown so tired and weary of the "negative elements" here - that we do just end up trying to ignore and just try to deal...(I'm not currently on treatment so of course I can't speak for someone who is, it's hard enough to just deal with *that* situation...God knows)
That being said, I think it's great that so many of the newer members have recently expressed a zero tolerance for this nonsense...and have voiced their outrage and concerns so forcefully and eloquently...maybe if the whole board stands up to vicious and hostile personal attacks, (if and when they can) the perpetrators will really "get the message" and either change their behavior or go elsewhere for their fun and games...
Course, it can get "sticky" and complicated sometimes (so to speak) and I've joked around about sexual matters and toilet humor...I'm a jokey person with a high "silly nonsense" threshhold...God knows I'm no saint and I've made my share of mistakes, etc..(maybe I see to much stand-up comedy - who knows?)...but what I can't abide, and have so often had to stomach, is people getting horribly attacked here, and getting attacked in a sexual way is just that much more detestable....isn't having this disease and it's treatments a hard enough situation to go through????...
I just can't understand this behavior, and it looks like a lot of other people here can't understand it either....whether they've spoken up about it or not...and I've seen some people make the observation that a few of these people have already SVRed, some for a few years now...if you want to come back here after getting that much coveted situation, why would you come back here to mess with people who are still sick or undergoing it's treatments? You of all people know what this is....come back to help us, or make us laugh, whatever....not mess with patients here...
Course argumentation is fine - I think Jim and I have had a few (though we seem to agree on most matters, generally speaking) and we've been able to stay friends even if it's gotten a little *heated* at times...that's what debate is all about to me, no need to get really uncivil...I've learned alot from my argumentation here, after all, this has given me points of view other then my own...
But I for one would be really content if the "hostile personal attacks" would be kept down to a bare minimum (I'm a realist of course) and that this board would be pretty much be what's it's supposed to be, a help and support board for people suffering with this nasty illness...never mind the different personalities...my opinions only...
While I can totally see NYGirl's point, that when youre going through such an exhausting, enervating, stressful experience like she's been having for well over a year now, how could you navigate this board without having to ignore a lot of the "negative elements" here (especially when you see that they don't go away, and they just keep going and going despite some people's best efforts to make them stop) So you end up just trying to take the good information and comaraderie you can get from here, and do your best to ignore the rest...Course that's easier to do when that spleen isn't being vented in your direction, so many of us have had to defend ourselves here...
And I wish I could of maybe done a better job of keeping cool under attack, so I don't stoop to a certain level, but I didn't and it is what it is....
Anyway, I can totally see why she and others of us would feel that way.... I think so many of us "old timers" - people who've been here for well over a year or so, have just grown so tired and weary of the "negative elements" here - that we do just end up trying to ignore and just try to deal...(I'm not currently on treatment so of course I can't speak for someone who is, it's hard enough to just deal with *that* situation...God knows)
That being said, I think it's great that so many of the newer members have recently expressed a zero tolerance for this nonsense...and have voiced their outrage and concerns so forcefully and eloquently...maybe if the whole board stands up to vicious and hostile personal attacks, (if and when they can) the perpetrators will really "get the message" and either change their behavior or go elsewhere for their fun and games...
Course, it can get "sticky" and complicated sometimes (so to speak) and I've joked around about sexual matters and toilet humor...I'm a jokey person with a high "silly nonsense" threshhold...God knows I'm no saint and I've made my share of mistakes, etc..(maybe I see to much stand-up comedy - who knows?)...but what I can't abide, and have so often had to stomach, is people getting horribly attacked here, and getting attacked in a sexual way is just that much more detestable....isn't having this disease and it's treatments a hard enough situation to go through????...
I just can't understand this behavior, and it looks like a lot of other people here can't understand it either....whether they've spoken up about it or not...and I've seen some people make the observation that a few of these people have already SVRed, some for a few years now...if you want to come back here after getting that much coveted situation, why would you come back here to mess with people who are still sick or undergoing it's treatments? You of all people know what this is....come back to help us, or make us laugh, whatever....not mess with patients here...
Course argumentation is fine - I think Jim and I have had a few (though we seem to agree on most matters, generally speaking) and we've been able to stay friends even if it's gotten a little *heated* at times...that's what debate is all about to me, no need to get really uncivil...I've learned alot from my argumentation here, after all, this has given me points of view other then my own...
But I for one would be really content if the "hostile personal attacks" would be kept down to a bare minimum (I'm a realist of course) and that this board would be pretty much be what's it's supposed to be, a help and support board for people suffering with this nasty illness...never mind the different personalities...my opinions only...
Sometimes, I'm such a bag of wind, ha ha! forgot to say, I was really appalled by a certain attack you undertook...I didn't say anything cause I had to leave this place around that time, it was getting too much around here - and I know you know what I mean...hope youre well and having a great weekend...
Whatever you do, don't offer the tiolrt humor up as the sacraficial lamb. Sacre Bleu!
I think it boils down to 'Don't be mean'.
I responded to you over here:
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/hepatitis/messages/44987.html
I think it boils down to 'Don't be mean'.
I responded to you over here:
http://www.medhelp.org/forums/hepatitis/messages/44987.html
Thank you so much for your suggestion regarding what might be causing the cryptic characters! I've forwarded it on to our technical group.
Cindy Thompson
Med Help
Cindy Thompson
Med Help
Med Help will not discuss actions taken against any of our visitors or members. All I can say is that our rules are the same for ALL and we do our best to enforce them fairly.
We look at our forums as a partnership between Med Help and YOU. We need your help to make sure that we are aware of ALL inappropriate messages posted in this and any of our other forums. As soon as an inappropriate message is posted, we ask that you contact us and send us a link to the question. We will act as quickly as we possibly can, before battles have a chance to escalate!
Cindy Thompson
Med Help
We look at our forums as a partnership between Med Help and YOU. We need your help to make sure that we are aware of ALL inappropriate messages posted in this and any of our other forums. As soon as an inappropriate message is posted, we ask that you contact us and send us a link to the question. We will act as quickly as we possibly can, before battles have a chance to escalate!
Cindy Thompson
Med Help
Thank you for your message.
I can assure you that Med Help does not ignore or try to appease any person who is sexually harrassing another! However, we need everyone to let us know as soon as something of this, or anything else that is against the rules of the forum, appears in the forum so that we can quickly remove them!
Again, Med Help will not discuss actions taken against any members or visitors to our forums.
Cindy Thompson
Med Help
I can assure you that Med Help does not ignore or try to appease any person who is sexually harrassing another! However, we need everyone to let us know as soon as something of this, or anything else that is against the rules of the forum, appears in the forum so that we can quickly remove them!
Again, Med Help will not discuss actions taken against any members or visitors to our forums.
Cindy Thompson
Med Help
thanks for your clear to the point message! I think you do speak for all of the women and many men who are offended by a hostile environment. I hope that Medhelp does let us know that this will not happen again, not just to ignore the posts and remove those that are offensive, but to have a zero tolerance for sexual harrassment and ban forever those that do such things as this. We really want to know how it was handled by MH.
I know you are feeling awful right now, hardly able to read or post, so it is even more apprieciated that you wrote this....
I know you are feeling awful right now, hardly able to read or post, so it is even more apprieciated that you wrote this....
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