let's hope so!!!
congrats!
Just got 5 month IGG results and they were all negative. Time to put this one to rest for good.
Argh, don't know what happened to my previous post, the references disappeared except the positive :)
the ranges were
less than 0.9 = negative
1.0 - 1.09 equivocal
more than 1.1 = positive
My results were in the 0.0x range.
I was on a business trip to the US and decided to get tested through Anylabtestnow. It was a type specific IgG test that according to the papers was performed at Elite Clinical Laboratories.
I don't know what test they use and if it is comparable to the HerpeSelect in reliability but the results were nonetheless negative for both, as I was actually at this point already expecting.
I am now 99% confident I don't have herpes and I shall complete my remaining counseling sessions to leave this ordeal fully behind.
The results were:
HSV-1 IGG 0.093
HSV-2 IGG 0.064
the ranges for both were:
= 1.1 Positive
My results look like very clear negatives, and the test was performed 13 weeks post encounter.
Ok just came from the doctor. Very good doctor, one of the best ones I've ever had.
He listened to my story and looked at my pictures. Then he started to calm me down and said, first of all my risk was so small it is basically almost theoretical (without active cold sore on my partners lip). He said my pictures and my description are in line with balanitis, not herpes. He said that he would personally stop testing and trust the 7 week test based on the fact that no obvious symptoms and small risk to begin with.
He said that to calm me down I can go ahead and have a final test at 16 weeks and that I should definitely take that as a conclusive result. He said he would personally be fine with the 7 week results already but to give closure to me he was willing to put in one more test.
Then he also referred me to counseling, I'm about to book the meeting right now. My company medical contract is very good and I can have several sessions with a counselor without it costing me a dime. My doctor also said that the counseling is very important and that I should book the meeting ASAP.
He also adviced me to not think about herpes or other STDs and just concentrate on living my life, see the counselor and have the remaining tests at the appropriate times and put this behind me.
Ok, due for my doctor's appointment in 3 hours. Interesting to hear what he will think of the rash I had (I have some photos) and the most important thing of course to get referred to counseling.
What was I rambling, the friends are coming over in a few hours, not tomorrow :)
Argh, I should have been smarter and booked the counseling weeks ago. I'm feeling the anxiety creeping up a bit but still not as bad as before.
I guess my main fear is still that I had a rash with tiny weeping cuts on my penis. Although my doctor said wounds resulting from herpes would be more painful and wouldn't heal so quickly (mine healed in couple of hours) I have trouble letting go. I guess that's where the counseling will help.
Also I'm having trouble accepting no need for further testing. I don't trust the 7 week results to be conclusive...
Oh well, I'll talk with my doc on Monday. Back to my weekend routine it is. Having some friends come over tomorrow, which is good.
Ok I've booked a meeting for next Monday. I will see a doctor and ask to be referred to counseling.
I also want to discuss the rash with the doctor and ask opinion based on my pictures. I'm still afraid of herpes because the rash had those ulcers that were weeping clear fluid.
I explained the symptoms to my doctor again on the phone and doctor did say that it would be highly unusual for herpes ulcers to be so small that you can barely see them and heal so quickly that they were gone when I saw the doctor (less than 24 hours since noticing the rash). She says she still sees no reason for more testing.
I think the counseling will be best route for me. I've been feeling pretty good, only occasional worry & fear over my situation, not debilitating like before.
Okay, it's been about two weeks since I got my 7 week negative test results. I've been feeling mostly OK but sometimes anxiety has still reared it's head. I've not booked a counseling meeting yet, which I admit has been a mistake. Well, today I left a callback request for my doctor. She will call me on Thursday.
I still sometimes have this suspicion that I have herpes but it's not as bad as it used to be. I've had no genital symptoms since the rash in the beginning of August. I've had a few cases of pimples or folliculitis on my upper lip border but I assume they are related to shaving and since they go away in a day or two I doubt it's oral herpes. Plus they have been so tiny that I doubt anyone else but myself has even noticed anything. Also none of the herpetic symptoms like pain or itching, tingling or any of that.
Today has not been the greatest day. While on the computer, I accidentally stumbled upon some of the photos of the penile rash I took. I have consciously avoided looking at the pictures or searching online for information ever since I got my 7 week negative test results. Seeing those photos ignited some fear in me again.
So here's my plan: since the doctors who have been treating me were not aware that my rash had weeping ulcers, I shall book a meeting with my doctor (when she calls this Thursday) and discuss the rash, show the pictures, and ask for their opinion based on this new information. The time when I showed the rash, I forgot to take the pictures with me and forgot to mention the tiny weeping ulcers on the rash on the previous night. In the morning at the doctors, they were healed so they only saw the red rash without weeping wounds.
At the same meeting, I will ask that she refers me to counseling.
I would feel a lot more confident if I hadn't had that ulcerous rash in the beginning of August. I just feel like I should have another test at say 16 weeks for confirmation. Well, I'll see what my doctor makes of the photos on Thursday and if based on that she will recommend any further testing. I think the counseling will also do me a world of good.
With all said, I've been feeling mostly well during these past few weeks. I've not browsed online for STD information, not tried to diagnose the rash but instead I've gone back to my usual routine: spend time with the kids, play some computer games, write some music, watch some movies etc. I've also been able to concentrate at work and I haven't had any anxiety attacks anymore.
I also want to thank you for the comments you have made in this thread. They were helping me to cope. Take care!
I am glad you are feeling better. This situation took the past 6 months of my life. I had so much anxiety and I haven't started moving on until this past week. This forum and following your posts have changed everything for me. I want to thank you and Grace for helping me through this. Best of luck to you!
I've actually been feeling better today than I've felt in ages. I just got home with my daughter and we picked up milkshakes for the whole family on the way home.
I'm about to put some buns in the oven for supper. They're pre-baked so we didn't actually bake them :)
I've still got occasionally this voice in my head saying that I might have herpes but I've managed to keep it in control and I believe when I have a chance to talk to a professional I will be able to keep it this way. My main worry is still that I tested too soon (7 weeks) but then I just keep telling myself that I've got so many people, who know this subject better than me, telling me to let it go.
It will take time to fully heal from this but I actually feel like I've got my life back! Last night when I had free time I didn't search online for herpes information but actually continued to work on writing music and just browsing for news & stuff - back to my usual self. We also watched a movie with my wife. And I've started to smile again.
best of luck working through this :) turn off the computer and spend time with the kids and keeping busy while waiting for that appointment. pick up a cooking with kids cookbook or something and make a total mess in the kitchen - just going shopping for aprons for you and the kids to wear keeps you busy. Anything to keep your mind off of this. physical activity helps as well as if you've been busy at work and withdrawn with worry, your family needs you back :)
I've been thinking about the advice given by my doctor, by you and Dr. HHH and I'm starting to accept that I don't need more testing.
My doctor was very specific on the phone today. She said you need to forget about herpes, it doesn't heal as fast as your rashes, the doctor who saw the rash did not think it was herpes, you don't need more testing.
This many people telling me I need to let it go is hard to ignore, so I will do my best to make it happen. You are right that even one false negative test would send me tumbling down from the cliff.
I don't want to end up like one of those guys I've seen here: conclusively tested negative but still won't let go.
Today has actually been the only day in a long while, that I've felt something else than fear and despair. I want to hold on to these positive feelings and not get caught up in a self-feeding negative loop.
And I think the best way to do it is to seek counseling to offload all these feelings I've been carrying inside me for 7 weeks.
I made a mistake earlier in my life, when my wife got serious health issues after delivering our first baby. She was hospitalized and I was left alone with our baby and uncertain about our future. I decided to carry all that pain and fear inside me and not seek counseling. I was able to hold on for 2 months while she was recovering. I didn't speak to anyone, not even my parents about how I really felt. I just braced myself and kept going forward. But I swear I came very close to suffering a nervous breakdown.
These 7 weeks I've been feeling exactly the same that I felt back then, the same despair, the same fear.
I appreciate the support that everyone has given me during this hard time. You have made this at least a little bit easier to cope.
you need to let go of this. there's no need for any further testing. if you get a false positive next time then you'll just start being anxious even more about this all along with having to invest time and money into more expensive testing.
give your clinic a call and ask them to refer you to a therapist and make that appointment pdq. your money is far better spent there at this point than it is on more herpes testing.
I know I should probably trust my doctor and stop testing but I just want to make it as sure as possible that I don't infect my partner with anything. It has been stated many times in these forums that 7 weeks is too soon for a conclusive test.
If I get no symptoms from now to 16 weeks it should be smooth sailing, and then I'll just pop in to the clinic, give some blood and get the results and accept them.
Needless to say I will take care of my hygiene regularly and will only look at my genitals while doing business in the toilet.
Grace, unfortunately I forgot to talk about the counseling with my doctor when she called. I was way too worked up at the time, as you can probably see from my posts before receiving the call.
I will definitely arrange it soon.
Congratulations! I thought you would be fine. If your doctor doesn't think you need another test don't even bother with it. If she thought you had herpes, I'm sure she would have you retest again.
have you sought out professional help yet to help with your anxiety?
Just got called by my doctor.
All results NEGATIVE!
IgG for HSV-1 and HSV-2 negative!
IgM also NEGATIVE!
Doctor said she feels no need for more testing (She knows my case) and she looked at the visit history from when I showed the rash. The doctor who looked at the rash had written in his notes that he had not thought it was herpes. Also my doctor said that herpes would not heal as fast as my rash did.
I think I will still do a 16 week test just to put this finally behind me but I will take this result as an encouraging step on my journey to finally get over this.
I have a very difficult time concentrating at work. My heart is racing and I'm feeling a high level of anxiety. I feel like getting up from my desk, and running somewhere, I don't care where. I'm also shaking a little bit, as if it was cold but it's normal room temperature.
And even if this result is negative, I know it will turn positive by the 16 week mark. I was browsing the herpes community forums few minutes ago and there was a case where someone was negative at 6 weeks but positive at 16 weeks.
Also remembered something HHH has said in a few threads. He has said that you will feel herpes before you see it, so no need to check your genitals. Both of my rashes appeared as complete surprises, no pain, itching or tingling present. Was blown away on both times when I rolled back the foreskin and saw them.
I've been doing a lot of research as well.
The things that I find support a yeast infection:
- both times rashes started after not taking care of hygiene properly
- first rash started during the latter stage of being on a course of antibiotics
- rashes have always been only on areas that are covered by the foreskin
However:
- there was no itching
- there was no white discharge typical to yeast (however there was a lot of some dry white narrow strand/fiber looking stuff under the foresking, from the extreme close ups it looked like the skin was so dry that small strands/fibers where coming off from the entire area of the glans)
Also I'm worried it's herpes because at least the 2nd rash seemed to have a very clear course: red patch that looked to be under the skin, then inflammation and bumpy skin, then small ulcers that were weeping clear fluid, then healing stage
There were no blisters but I've read it's typical for uncircumsized men. Only thing is that I don't think the ulcers formed themselves. I only noticed them after taking a shower and after that I roughly dried the tip with a piece of toilet paper and then proceeded to take some extreme close up photos of the inflamed skin. So it's feasible that the long warm shower caused the area of the rash to become soft and as it was already tender it easily broke open when the rough toilet paper swiped over it.
Then there's also some mixed info out there. Dr. HHH says that when an outbreak starts, it cannot clear in under 7 days, or something along these lines. But other websites say that genital OB can last anywhere from 3 days up to about 2 weeks. Dr. HHH also said it's not typical to have a recurrent OB so shortly after the previous one (my rashes were 3 weeks + few days apart) but for example Grace has stated that it's typical to have another OB shortly after the first one.
Dr. HHH also said to me that herpes wouldn't cause so small ulcers that you can barely see them, but again other websites contradict this.
I should get the results from my 7 week test today within the next 6 hours or so.