Could I have gotten herpes

[Mistakeguy789]

I made a huge mistake about 10 days ago.  I went through and met a guy that I didn't know and he preformed oral sex on me and I on him.  No kissing or anything like that.  I am now freaking out of my mind going did I get herpes.  So I am trying to gather a game plan.  

I have been googling and looking for answers for a while.  But now I am going to ask my own question of Do you think I have it given my situation.

The guy I met claimed to be clean from all diseases and HIV.  When we met I didn't see him having any "signs" of bumps or anything like that.  But I know that isn't a for sure sign of being free from herpes. As I said this was 10 days ago almost 11.  I have been scared that a bump I had around my genitals was herpes. But I think I figured it out as just a ingrown hair.  But today I notice that my lips feel a little burning. all around them.  Like they are puffing up. It started around 11:00 PM.  I shaved today at like 2:45 PM.  I doubt its razor burn but I am not sure.  I am as you can probbaly tell freaking out.  

My first question is can this be a sign of Herpes and/or something else?  

If I go to a hospitial (I am located in the US) can they test for Herpes on site and get me the results?  

Ugh I messed up so bad and I am honestly scared.  Any advice/help much appreciated.

[Mistakeguy789]

Well I figure its time for me to make one last post to this thread and let it go away with the wind.  I will post a short brief and long story in my journal.

Grace I will leave the test interperting to you.  

Test Name: HerpeSelect
HSV 1 IGG TYPE SPECIFIC AB <0.90
HSV 2 IGG TYPE SPECIFIC AB <0.90

[Joe239]

Thanks for that reply. It was helpful and reassuring. I have taken the advice of you, Terry and Dr Hook and I have an appointment with a nuerologist. I guess as a guy ....once I get something on my mind it is hard to let it go. I think what has me so hell bent here is that all this happend right after my sexual encounter.

[gracefromHHP]

I'd play them really poorly too to really torture you  or just sit and play spider solitaire the whole time instead of something really interesting....

I'd also only let you eat vegetables

[Mistakeguy789]

Oh I have NO doubt you would ground me.  Take my computer away from me and in order to make the torture worse (hence teach a lesson) you would play computer games IN FRONT of me.  Knowing that I would want to play the game or teach you.  Followed by head slap Gibbs style (NCIS reference).

[gracefromHHP]

i was talking to joe dear hence why I addressed the post specifically to him.  you know if you made me mad, I'd just slap you upside the head, ground you for a week and take away your computer.

grace

[Mistakeguy789]

Grace I am truly sorry for stepping out of line.  I was not trying to upset you or further prove that I did have herpes.  I do greatly appologize if it seemed as such.  At this point I will drop the matter completely.  Again I am sorry.

[gracefromHHP]

hsv1 often seroconverts faster than hsv2 actually.

in your own case joe, you have to stop thinking it has to be herpes. Even if you did get a hsv1+ blood test , it still would mean nothing at all as far as what's going on in your genital area. You'd need a + lesion culture for hsv1 to confirm hsv1 genitally.
  
I've been letting a few of the posts from a bunch of you go on because at one point it appeared to be very theraputic for all of you to discuss your symptoms together.  I will draw the line at some point for many of you to be honest.  Not everything is herpes and out of all the years I've been doing on the online message boards where mostly males have insisted that what they have is herpes regardless of how many negative tests they've gotten, I've yet to ever have someone at a later point actually get diagnosed as having herpes.  there comes a point where you have to let go of the idea of herpes being the cause of your symptoms and stop obsessing about it.

grace

[Joe239]

So Grace the advice that is given based on test results only pertains to HSV2. For those concerend about HSV1 what are those numbers? How accurate are the test. I know what I have read but I am guessing they gave some training in interpreting results and what is an accurate window to test for both 1 & 2. Is that where the 12-16 weeks comes into play?

[gracefromHHP]

the numbers we discuss are only for hsv2, not hsv1.

bottom line, guilt vs risk dear but you knew that weeks ago.  

grace

[Mistakeguy789]

One should consider reading their post before clicking the famous post comment button.  I mean lips and not lives.  I am sadly not a cat and don't get 9 lives.  Also the Dr. said genital stuff isn't herpes but still fungal infection that he gave me a new medicine for.

[Mistakeguy789]

Alright Grace forgive me for asking.  You know I am going to ask because I am interested in learning.  

HerpeSelect is the only test that gets an accurate read at 3 month mark (12 weeks).  Does this apply for both HSV-1 and HSV-2 or is it more so for HSV-2.

Given the results at 9 weeks and that my dermatolgist has examined me head to toe yesterday only stating that my oral bumps were some sweat or something glads.  My lips he said are pretty chapped and that the cuts I have are bleeding a little are related to chapped lives not herpes by any means.

The test at 9 weeks was a HerpeSelect test.  Both values were <0.90.  Given what I have learned from everyone that a 6-8 week test would show about 70% of possible infections.  Combine this with a low risk activity do you feel that I am out of the woods at this point?  Is it safe to trust the HSV-1 result or is the 70% number generally refer to HSV-2 since most IgG test are more sensitive to HSV-2?  

Another werid question I do have is does the body typically respond different if dealing with a genital HSV-1 infection and an oral for example anitbodies are typically easier found for a genital infection compared to an oral one?  Or has this even been studied?

[Mistakeguy789]

Well I think you need to remember is this:  Not everything that happens is herpes.  It could be anything your dentist is a good stop on the mouth stuff.  I am not sure what and if they can but maybe ask him to run a culture on the sores.  I would start looking for a new clinic/doctor.  I just had it out with a clinic not to long ago (before my mess started) which ended up getting a NP fired and me 800.00 in cash.  

Your doctors really should work in your care.  I don't put up with a lot of BS and refuseal to do what I ask unless there is a large medically neccesary reason (test or medicine will have long term effects) then I don't see why you won't do what I request.  You also can file a complaint with your states Medical Examiners board.  If I would do that I would say get your P's and Q's in order and take a recoder into your exam to get him on a recording ( I would say tape but everything now is typically digital) of saying no when you push to get it.  

If the tongue thing has been going on for a while (more then 2+) then chances are you aren't looking at herps.  I am not to knowledable on HIV (I could google but I am feeling lazy right now haha).  I doubt HIV as well though.  

[kaoticblue87]

Yep, that is how I was feeling too. Went to the dr last friday just to ask what it COULD be if it wasn't herpes, since there were obvious "lesions" of some sort. But all he could tell me was that I was negative and that I needed to put herpes behind me. I just laughed and told him I just want to know what is going on with my dang tongue if it isn't herpes, so I asked him for a culture....but of course he ignored my request and just focused on my "anxiety", even though I knew I had anxiety and have it documented in my records, duh.

So pretty much, couldn't get any information out of him, so tomorrow I got an appointment for a dentist to figure out what is going on, since a "new" symptom showed up of some more white gunk type stuff on the top but at the tip on the edge of my geographic tongue sore. Hard to explain, but basically it isn't the normal white stuff that is usually there, but some weird gunk looking stuff that can't really be wiped away...but isn't an ulcer...odd. I'm figuring maybe a buildup of candida bacteria since it does eventually go away in a day or two. And then Friday, my 15th week test of herpes from a new dr just to rest my mind that I am truly negative, since it is within the time frame.

Of course, now my new fear seems to be HIV since I just so happened to read something about HIV causing that buildup in your mouth....sigh. =(

[Mistakeguy789]

Grace we are taking bets in the house on test results at 12 weeks.  Want in on the pool?  Family so far is saying negative.  House is matching buck of buck.  Pot is at 50 smackers so far.

[Mistakeguy789]

I would like to say yes but I am not yet.  Sadly....  My one time cursory exam showed another new "bump".  I have an appointment with the derm again this week so I will go by and let him check this bump out along with my lips that keep burning for the last couple of days.  Oh the life of fear lol.

[kaoticblue87]

That's good news! And do you feel confident that you are negative now?

[Mistakeguy789]

Just thought I would update that my 9.5 week test did come back negative.

[Mistakeguy789]

Sorry Mom :( I know I am bad.  Just trying to take care of an 87 year old with limited vision and walking issues due to hip surgery and a 58 year old who is limited due to a back injury sustained from work a year ago.  Workmans comp won't fix her up.

I seriously think that is the cause of the sores.  They really aren't that big today as they were yesterday and actually started going down.  Its majorly white though so I don't know.

[gracefromHHP]

oh I definitely feel a lecture coming on dear if you aren't brushing your teeth twice a day minimum!!!!  absolutely no excuses for that!!!

[kaoticblue87]

You go a week without brushing your teeth? That is not very....healthy lol. Well, I hope it isn't herpes. My eyes are starting to burn again when I put eye drops in, bleh. Might make an eye appointment again just to make sure, cuz it just started burning last night with my eye drops. Sigh, endless worrying

[Mistakeguy789]

Yeah.  The tongue thing is new.  But I keep thinking about it the more I think about it the more I think I have had these things before.  Usually comes if I get so busy and I go like a week or so without brushing my teeth and I drink lots of coke/tea.  But I don't know it is literally almost gone right now and there is no real pain anymore.  So I don't know what to take.

Testing after 12 weeks is good.  Best is after 16 weeks.  But I think you will find that you are fine.  Let us know what happens with your results when you get them.

[kaoticblue87]

Oh, that same thing happened to me. My grandma was in the hospital over Christmas, and that was when my first "outbreak" of whatever this is was happening. I decided to get one of the nurses that was seeing her and asked her to look at my tongue. I asked her if she might know what is going on with my tongue. She told me they were lesions and I asked if it was herpes, and she said it could be....but that she was not "trained" in that area, lol. True, she wasn't a dr or an np, but just kind of sucks when someone tells you that though, bleh.

[kaoticblue87]

Ah, well you never did mention anything on your tongue earlier, so I'm guessing that is something new that just came up...interesting. As you know, the same thing has been going on and off with me throughout the month of Feb and now March...but I am going to take Grace's advice and get my mouth swabbed tomorrow since the lesions are still there. Depending on what the Doc tells me tomorrow, I might get another blood test done now that i'm at the 15th week mark. Hopefully, everyone is right in that it is not herpes!  =)

[Mistakeguy789]

The time to seroconvert and for most test to be accurate is within the 12-16 week range.  There is a 70% though that if negative I will remain negative.  HerpeSelect test will show a fairly accurate picture at 12 weeks.

She didn't want to swab it etc.