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How close are we to finding a cure?
A couple days ago, my STD test came back positive for Herpes 2. I am devastated, crushed. I can't help but feel like maybe I should just kill myself and get it over with... I'm 22, I can count my sexual partners on both hands, and now.... I'm ****** for life. I've never had an outbreak. EVER. Never an outbreak, and no symptoms. I've been in 3 serious relationships, all lasting over a year. I can't even imagine dating at this point. How in the world will anyone accept this? I doubt I can date anyone new; I mean, I know that if I started seeing a guy, and he confided that he had herpes, he would have to be THE ONE for me to continue seeing him... I know thats vain, but god, there is such a stigma associated with this disease. Like I'm a ****, or dirty or something. Fuckin christ. How can Magic Johnson beat HIV, while one in four people have to wear a condom for the rest of their ******* lives?! I'm pretty, and smart, and I have a degree............... and now I'm ******. ****!!!!!!
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Ok Tainted, since I either missed something, or nobody actually answered your question about a cure, let me give a direct answer:
From what I've read, we are closer to a cure for HSV1: there are several possible cures, the most promising being a kind of gene therapy developed at the University of Florida. It's proven very effective in animal models, but studies regarding human subjects have yet to be published.
As for HSV2, a cure is POSSIBLE, and it may already exist. Known as ACAM-529, a vaccine was developed by Harvard Medical and then the patent was bought by Pasteur. Early studies in animal and human models proved it effective against HSV1 & HSV2, including already infected hosts. In essence, it would program your immune system to eradicate HSV cells even when latent, thus eradicating the disease and preventing further infection. I've been trying to find more information on ACAM-529 which was due for initial human trials last year, but for whatever reason, those studies were never conducted, or their results never published. In my opinion, it looks like our best hope for destroying HSV once and for all.
There's also investigation using genetically altered HSV samples as a cure for cancer, which is also looking quite promising.
So, if anyone else out there knows anything about ACAM-529, please let us know. Whether infected or not, I think we would all agree that getting vaccinated would be a -good- thing.
From what I've read, we are closer to a cure for HSV1: there are several possible cures, the most promising being a kind of gene therapy developed at the University of Florida. It's proven very effective in animal models, but studies regarding human subjects have yet to be published.
As for HSV2, a cure is POSSIBLE, and it may already exist. Known as ACAM-529, a vaccine was developed by Harvard Medical and then the patent was bought by Pasteur. Early studies in animal and human models proved it effective against HSV1 & HSV2, including already infected hosts. In essence, it would program your immune system to eradicate HSV cells even when latent, thus eradicating the disease and preventing further infection. I've been trying to find more information on ACAM-529 which was due for initial human trials last year, but for whatever reason, those studies were never conducted, or their results never published. In my opinion, it looks like our best hope for destroying HSV once and for all.
There's also investigation using genetically altered HSV samples as a cure for cancer, which is also looking quite promising.
So, if anyone else out there knows anything about ACAM-529, please let us know. Whether infected or not, I think we would all agree that getting vaccinated would be a -good- thing.
Hi. I caught herpes from a shemale last year. She was beautiful and asked me home to **** her husband and her. I went and later found out the other guy wasn't even her husband but another guy she had picked up. I watched THEM do it for awhile and got turned on, so I let the freak slide that diseased rod deep into my bowels. Yep, you guessed it, I caught herpes. And the worst part about it is that the highest concentration of my outbreak happens in my butthole, so any partner (of which I now have very few) knows that I got cornholed at some point because it's so obvious. My *** looks like somebody stuffed a small pizza into it....while the rest of my genitals looks like the face of a teenager with a bad case of zits. THIS all totally sucks! It's painful to **** and shameful to be ***-examined. My shorts are always filled with pus stains and the only thing that seems to take away the pain is cornstarch, which I am continually pouring into my pants. Help!
Rio yes i too was recently diagnose positive hsv 1.... But antoinnete 1 is right the more yo educate your self the better .. Just because yiu learn hiw common it is ...jyst make sure you read on it . Learn how to recognise tge signs the tingling the itching tbe burning before getting an out brake people usually run to the store fir the meds thats help get rid of the outbrake in 3_4 days insted of 2 weeks. How ti live a sanitized life style to not infect anyone ...theres a good percentage of people who never see an outbrake ... Eat right exercise sleep 8 hours things like this help prevebt an outbrake ...wish you the best i wish everyone the best of peace of mind and health .. Keep god in your life and a little prayer aint never hurt nobody...
Rio yes i too was recently diagnose positive hsv 1.... But antoinnete 1 is right the more yo educate your self the better .. Just because yiu learn hiw common it is ...jyst make sure you read on it . Learn how to recognise tge signs the tingling the itching tbe burning before getting an out brake people usually run to the store fir the meds thats help get rid of the outbrake in 3_4 days insted of 2 weeks. How ti live a sanitized life style to not infect anyone ...theres a good percentage of people who never see an outbrake ... Eat right exercise sleep 8 hours things like this help prevebt an outbrake ...wish you the best i wish everyone the best of peace of mind and health .. Keep god in your life and a little prayer aint never hurt nobody...
NO BIG DEAL!? R u crazy?!
Did you give it to your husband? How do you move forward. I just found out I had it and gave it to my wife of 30 years. She is so upset and disappointed in me. Did we tell my daughters of 16 and 18. they hear things hear and there. Please give advise
you have made multiple responses to an old post. if you have questions about your own situation,please start your own post as we ask in our read before posting post on the forum - thanks!
i've read some of you posts and they are very helpful. however, as i wrote to bob, sores inside the mouth for herpes is not uncommon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gingivostomatitis. This is what I had. Please spread the word!
I took a look at that picture and my primary infection looked similar to canker sores. This is called herpetic gingivostomatitis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gingivostomatitis.
Also blood test may not be accurate during the first outbreak since your antibodies won't show up. A swab during infection at an STI clinic plus a blood test would be best. Usuall and infectious disesase clinic will not charge you so please get tested!
Also blood test may not be accurate during the first outbreak since your antibodies won't show up. A swab during infection at an STI clinic plus a blood test would be best. Usuall and infectious disesase clinic will not charge you so please get tested!
CallMeBob: I tried salt water and mouth wash. Don't think it really did much for me but can prevent reinfection. Try Lysine and a lot of vitamins including C and E, reishi mushroom pills, olive leaf extract, and plenty of sleep.
As for your post, I will be honest and say it doens't make me very happy to know that you are taking a risk with these women. I understand that everyone takes risks when they have sex, but I also believe there is a mutal trust that exists when you are with someone. I would hope you would want her to tell you if she had HIV in case the condom breaks.
As I have mentioned in my previous posts, I found out I was infected a month ago by a guy who has had cold sores. He didn''t tell me and then when I confronted him, he told me that he has had cold sores but didn't have an outbreak. I now have oral and genital herpes even though we used a condom. So, even though you won't go down on a girl when you don't have an outbreat, you can still give it to her. I personally think everyone with herpes and myself included should tell their partners before sexual activity/contact. She/he has a right to know and make a decision based on the risk.
If you really don't think it's a big deal then why not tell the other person? Who said you have to give up on sex? Just be responsible. If I had known about my partner having HSV1, I may have taken more precautions (eg. asking him to take antiviral drugs, using soap right after, not letting him give me oral sex since if I had read about viral shedding or obstaining from contact since I knew he hadn't been getting a lot of rest so his immune system was weak). So all in all, if you really don't think it's a big deal, great...but let someone else make that decision because it has devasted my life. It is a big deal to me and my health.
Did you know women have more to deal with because of our hormones? 3 outbreaks in 1 month in 2 loctions so that makes 6 in total because I caught a cold and had my period. Also, my triggers include alcohol so no more wine, not even a bit. Some people do want babies and yes it has made me fearful..lots of psychological stress.
So PLEASE PLEASE, think twice about this. You decision can cause a lot of suffering and by telling your partners it doesn't mean you can't have sex.
As for your post, I will be honest and say it doens't make me very happy to know that you are taking a risk with these women. I understand that everyone takes risks when they have sex, but I also believe there is a mutal trust that exists when you are with someone. I would hope you would want her to tell you if she had HIV in case the condom breaks.
As I have mentioned in my previous posts, I found out I was infected a month ago by a guy who has had cold sores. He didn''t tell me and then when I confronted him, he told me that he has had cold sores but didn't have an outbreak. I now have oral and genital herpes even though we used a condom. So, even though you won't go down on a girl when you don't have an outbreat, you can still give it to her. I personally think everyone with herpes and myself included should tell their partners before sexual activity/contact. She/he has a right to know and make a decision based on the risk.
If you really don't think it's a big deal then why not tell the other person? Who said you have to give up on sex? Just be responsible. If I had known about my partner having HSV1, I may have taken more precautions (eg. asking him to take antiviral drugs, using soap right after, not letting him give me oral sex since if I had read about viral shedding or obstaining from contact since I knew he hadn't been getting a lot of rest so his immune system was weak). So all in all, if you really don't think it's a big deal, great...but let someone else make that decision because it has devasted my life. It is a big deal to me and my health.
Did you know women have more to deal with because of our hormones? 3 outbreaks in 1 month in 2 loctions so that makes 6 in total because I caught a cold and had my period. Also, my triggers include alcohol so no more wine, not even a bit. Some people do want babies and yes it has made me fearful..lots of psychological stress.
So PLEASE PLEASE, think twice about this. You decision can cause a lot of suffering and by telling your partners it doesn't mean you can't have sex.
Hey Grace, my primary outbreak was inside the mouth and it's not uncommon for the first time. It was obviously HSV1 with blisters. After that, it has been outside the mouth with tingling but I've only had it for a month.
I also got it from a guy who had cold sores who didn't tell me, so I'm not pleased with this person's post. He didn't have an outbreak or so he says and gave me oral and genital herpes. He also doesn't think it's a big deal but it feels like it has ruined my life. Not cool
I also got it from a guy who had cold sores who didn't tell me, so I'm not pleased with this person's post. He didn't have an outbreak or so he says and gave me oral and genital herpes. He also doesn't think it's a big deal but it feels like it has ruined my life. Not cool
Thanks for sharing but I can tell you from first hand experience that cold sores can cause genital herpes. HSV1 is transmittable and it doesn't have to be during an outbreak I got infected without visible signs from someone who had cold sores in the past and didn't tell me. So now I have oral and genital (HSV1). I have had 3 outbreaks and it's only been a month though the symptoms are not as severe as the ones I've read about. So, it really sucks and people with cold sores should be careful and always tell their partners.
After doing research, I found out that 30% of new infection is caused by HSV1 via oral sex.
After doing research, I found out that 30% of new infection is caused by HSV1 via oral sex.
Hi Grace,
I was wondering if you could explain more on a person finding out their "numeric values" when they have genital herpes? More yet, is this something that a person who does get regular outbreaks w/o medication should do? Thanks for your time:)
I was wondering if you could explain more on a person finding out their "numeric values" when they have genital herpes? More yet, is this something that a person who does get regular outbreaks w/o medication should do? Thanks for your time:)
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Method of curing AIDS with tetrasilver tetroxide molecular crystal devices
Abstract
The diamagnetic semiconducting molecular crystal tetrasilver tetroxide (Ag.sub.4 O.sub.4) is utilized for destroying the AIDS virus, destroying AIDS synergistic pathogens and immunity suppressing moieties (ISM) in humans. A single intravenous injection of the devices is all that is required for efficacy at levels of about 40 PPM of human blood. The device molecular crystal contains two mono and two trivalent silver ions capable of "firing" electrons capable of electrocuting the AIDS virus, pathogens and ISM. When administered into the bloodstream, the device electrons will be triggered by pathogens, a proliferating virus and ISM, and when fired will simultaneously trigger a redox chelation mechanism resulting in divalent silver moieties which chelate and bind active sites of the entities destroying them. The devices are completely non-toxic. However, they put stress on the liver causing hepatomegaly, but there is no loss of liver function.
Inventors: Antelman; Marvin S. (Rehovot, IL)
Assignee: Antelman Technologies Ltd. (Providence, RI)
Appl. No.: 08/658,955
Filed: May 31, 1996
"Is The AIDS Virus A Science Fiction?" by Peter H. Duesberg and Bryan J. Ellison, Policy Review, Summer 1990, pp. 40-51..
Method of curing AIDS with tetrasilver tetroxide molecular crystal devices
Abstract
The diamagnetic semiconducting molecular crystal tetrasilver tetroxide (Ag.sub.4 O.sub.4) is utilized for destroying the AIDS virus, destroying AIDS synergistic pathogens and immunity suppressing moieties (ISM) in humans. A single intravenous injection of the devices is all that is required for efficacy at levels of about 40 PPM of human blood. The device molecular crystal contains two mono and two trivalent silver ions capable of "firing" electrons capable of electrocuting the AIDS virus, pathogens and ISM. When administered into the bloodstream, the device electrons will be triggered by pathogens, a proliferating virus and ISM, and when fired will simultaneously trigger a redox chelation mechanism resulting in divalent silver moieties which chelate and bind active sites of the entities destroying them. The devices are completely non-toxic. However, they put stress on the liver causing hepatomegaly, but there is no loss of liver function.
Inventors: Antelman; Marvin S. (Rehovot, IL)
Assignee: Antelman Technologies Ltd. (Providence, RI)
Appl. No.: 08/658,955
Filed: May 31, 1996
"Is The AIDS Virus A Science Fiction?" by Peter H. Duesberg and Bryan J. Ellison, Policy Review, Summer 1990, pp. 40-51..
I'm shocked at how you can come on this forum and basically insult all of us and people are actually still trying to comfort you. What an ignorant little ***** you are (sorry but someone has to say it because we're all thinking it) to come here, where we are meant to come share experiences and have questions answered, and basically tell us we're all dirty and skanky. The fact is that every 4th person you see walking down the street has genital herpes, they aren't dirty they just have a virus. That is a fact, it's time to face it.
If all you're gonna do is come here and complain and insult we would all rather not hear from you again. All you're doing is dragging everyone else down with your bad attitude.
If all you're gonna do is come here and complain and insult we would all rather not hear from you again. All you're doing is dragging everyone else down with your bad attitude.
No one says you can't have fun but your actions can cause someone to become infected. Take proper precautions during an outbreak. Other may not be as easy going having the infection as you seem to be. Also you can have have herpes inside your mouth. People PLEASE do your research. It's not just canker sores that can be found in your mouth.
That is really an insensitive comment & atittude to have. People deal with issues differently then others. You should encourage NOT down play the seriousness of the virus. How dare you tell them not to get bent out of shape about it. You said "it's just to common", WELL THAT IS THE PROBLEM!!! If there were more education & knowledge about it then wouldn't be high numbers of people infected with this virus. People with it have every right to be upset, who wants the guilt of having this their whole life & possibly passing it on to someone else? Not to mention the ignorant judgements of others. This is a serious problem that is spreading rapidly & I feel if they can make drugs to treat, surpress it ( which with some doesn't even work ) then they ( the scientist, doctors ) should be able to cure it, create a vacination for it & or produce real drugs that will surpress it even if it cannot be irraticated from the body. Attitudes like your is dangerous & is why there is no cure. It is serious & to brush off someones feelings as if they are over reacting is wrong. People are coming here for help with their feelings. It's no way you should be telling them that it is ok because almost half the population has it. Herpes may not be life threating but it can be passed on to the next person easily without even knowing. It's a way you can tell others to live with it instead of down playing what they are feeling. Just like HSV these peoples feelings are just as real!!!
you said it's just to common THAT IS THE PROBLEM!!!
you said it's just to common THAT IS THE PROBLEM!!!
I'm glad to hear that you are adjusting with your HSV diagnosis. I honestly hope that others will also in time come to terms & feel as happy as you do. With that said I still feel that a cure would help the millions out there that have it. How do I send my donations to these Doctors? Do you have an address so I can send off my donation? Thanks you.
AMEN!!! Well said LANI!!!!!!!!!
How in Gods name can you say that? It's attitudes like yours is why Scientist & Doctors, talk shows ( & they have plenty of Doctor talk shows out there ) aren't mentioning it on their shows nor are doctors doing more in terms of looking for a cure to this horrifying virus that actually should have long since had a cure for because they, like you feel it is "managable". Because of that BS attitude like yours millions of people are getting infected daily. Feeling that it is "managable" is an awful way to play with ones life!!! It is not managable at all, All the valtrex, lysene etc. in the world isn't working for for some of those millions out there that have both genital & lip Herpes. You try telling some of the people that get it monthly or children as young as 1 years old that when they get frequent outbreaks that it is "managable". You tell a partner that you have it but assure them, oh it's ok because it's "managable". See how fast he or she runs for the hills!!! I seriously believe the poster felt that IF they can form meds to make HIV undetected in Magic Johnson then it should be quite easy to do the same with Herpes so that outbacks are no more even if the person carries the virus. I'm not saying that HIV is less important then HSV but both are just as important to me. At least those with HIV aren't wearing it on their face like HSV1 people do at any giving time for judgemental JERKS out there to judge without even knowing the person. I think that your statement was very hurtful to those that suffer with this their whole lives, I promise you there are others out there that feel the complete opposite & don't see HSV as being "Managable" I I am one of them.
Like most of you I too have this awful disease. When i first noticed the symptoms I prayed that it was anything but herpes, but of course i already knew what it was. I went to the doctor and just with 1 look the doctor already knew what it was. I was humiliated, mortified even. She was nice about it though, and sympathized with me. I was only 21. It wasn't like I was a hoe, or I went around ******* everything in site. In my years of being sexual, it wasn't until i got a boyfriend that i ever came in contact w/ any disease. Imagine that. Anyway I've been battling extreme depression and suicide thoughts and its only been 2 1/2 months. So far I've had 5 outbreaks.At times i feel like im going to be alone forever. maybe it's best that way. I would hate to have to deal with the guilt of passing it on to someone else. After reading everyone's comments though, I found a sort of comfort knowing that i'm not the only one who felt this way so thank you.
well ive been under extreme anxiety and panic attacks , especially in the morning when i wake up. I think i might have herpes but not on my genitals i think i have them behind my right knee. I was once inspecting my groin on both sides to see if i had anything similar to what i have behind my knee, And a little after inspecting my groin on both sides i got this little paper cuts which i didnt have nor it itched just prior to stretching the skin there to see if i had any bumps. I ignored the little cuts but after reading of the many ways in how herpes can show up i got even more paranoid. Im afraid to go get tested but im trying to come into terms with it in other words accept it which is hard , In other words im trying to mentally prepare myself before i go to the doctor. Im able to calm down and lower my anxiety and panik attacks during the day and by night im calmer thinking what can i do about it if i have it i have it. Thats the reason why i surf thru these forums to get a piece of mind at night so i can be able to sleep but when i wake up in the morning im hit by the reality of this disease and i just go into panik mode and axiety sets in. Just to ease my mind in the morning from anxiety ive been going to work 1 hour earlier and regardless of how expensive gas is i drive around and count people behind and in front of me at a redlight and figure huum they probabbly have it too and they seem normal. But this is the most horrible feeling im going through. Right now i feel calm if i have it , it happened for a reason because i believe in god and everything happens for a reason. Although i havent been diagnosed yet im sure it could be herpes . im trying to get mentally ready for the positive results which has brought havoc in my life i just dont seem to enjoy anything anymore and if i test positive i just dont know how i will look at life again. I dont have anything on my genitals but those bumps i had behind my left knee and those paper cuts i noticed on both sides of my groin , i dont know if i self inflicted these cuts by stretching the skin there or if its an actual outbreak of herpes . im praying to god to make it be another infection but not herpes , im just scared of waking up tomorrow and go through the whole not being sure if i have it or not burden and the slap of reality that comes along with anxiety and panic attaks, but its helphful to read all the possitive comments and if i test positive i hope i can just get over it soon and be happy as many of you seem to be sorty for the long post but i just needed to get it out since i dont want to tell anyone i know because my family and friends seem to be too judgemental, I remember one of my cousins making a comment about how a cousin of ours was diagnosed wth hpv and even i was in shock like if i was my cousin i felt the pain for her and now me. i have someone to talk to about my problem but it just wont help since ill be hurting that family member ill be saying it to so i just read all this post all night long until i get sleepy. And to make things worse a girl i was interested in which was playing hard to get now seems to be wanting to have a relation with me but i dont know im just no longer interested , i dont plan on seeing her or dating her until i go get a test done and if im positive im just goin to let this girl slip away like water through my fingers , i just dont know what to think i try to not think about it just to put my nind at rest . thank you so much for your patience and for reading i hope theres a cure for this virus i hope all 45 million affected by this could all pitch in 10 bucks for a cure to this .
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Herpes sores blister, then burst, scab and heal.
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