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Protect partner to spread HSV-2
I just have question. Maybe it's help to other people who diagnosed with HSV-2. I live with my partner almost 5 years. And I'm positive with HSV-2 and he is not. I told him about it before we start live together. Now we don't have intimacy because he afraid that he can catch from me virus. And ofcource all this years I used medication Valocyclovir 1g and specail spray that also ptrotect to spread virus. And I don't have any outbreaks. And he take blood test to check if he has HSV-2 from me? RESULT was negative. Does he can get genital herpes HSV-2 from me if I using all the time Valacyclovir 1g and spay for protect him? Please answer we have problem with this fair and our relationship going through tough time.
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What is the spray you are using? I've never heard of that.
You don't mention your gender, but if you are female, and he is male, using valacyclovir, and avoiding sex when you have symptoms, and assuming sex 2-3x a week means that he has about a 2% chance per year of getting hsv2 from you. If you add condoms to that, it's about 1%.
We don't have stats for same sex couples, unfortunately, but for two men, we assume it's at least the same, maybe a bit higher.
You deserve someone who isn't afraid of being intimate with you. There are people who won't be.
You don't mention your gender, but if you are female, and he is male, using valacyclovir, and avoiding sex when you have symptoms, and assuming sex 2-3x a week means that he has about a 2% chance per year of getting hsv2 from you. If you add condoms to that, it's about 1%.
We don't have stats for same sex couples, unfortunately, but for two men, we assume it's at least the same, maybe a bit higher.
You deserve someone who isn't afraid of being intimate with you. There are people who won't be.
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Thank you for your responce. And I would like to ask if you have medical education?
Does your responce depend on medical education or it's base on information from internet?
About my gender..I not mention on my question. Im female and my partner he is male. We in relationship around 5 yeras. And I mentioning about this because he did blood test and show that he don't have HSV-2.
About spray I want to share this information...maybe some people who have HSV-2 would like to used to protect they partner. You can order from online. It's product create in Spain but I order long time ago from russian website. I hope still working and now too. Name of this spray EPIGEN INTIM SPRAY. You can spay before intimacy and after. But I used before for protection reason...and also help for treatment. This want on the box I translate. Indication: Treatment of papillomavirus infection. Treatment of viral infection caused by herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2. Prevention of recurrence of viral infections caused by herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2, Varicella Zoster virus, Human papilloma virus. But any way suggest with this spray used condom too for more safety intimacy. When I used this spray I spray inside and ousite for skin. It's spray can be use by male too.
Does your responce depend on medical education or it's base on information from internet?
About my gender..I not mention on my question. Im female and my partner he is male. We in relationship around 5 yeras. And I mentioning about this because he did blood test and show that he don't have HSV-2.
About spray I want to share this information...maybe some people who have HSV-2 would like to used to protect they partner. You can order from online. It's product create in Spain but I order long time ago from russian website. I hope still working and now too. Name of this spray EPIGEN INTIM SPRAY. You can spay before intimacy and after. But I used before for protection reason...and also help for treatment. This want on the box I translate. Indication: Treatment of papillomavirus infection. Treatment of viral infection caused by herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2. Prevention of recurrence of viral infections caused by herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2, Varicella Zoster virus, Human papilloma virus. But any way suggest with this spray used condom too for more safety intimacy. When I used this spray I spray inside and ousite for skin. It's spray can be use by male too.
Nothing on that spray indicates it prevents transmission. It says it helps treats and may help prevent outbreaks, but doesn't say anything about transmission.
I have worked in public health for most of my career, and have had hsv2 for about 20 years. I don't need medical training to know that you deserve a partner who will be intimate with you. You don't need to settle for abstinence unless you prefer that.
The transmission stats come from the Valtrex study in 2004. We've known those for a really long time. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa035144
I have worked in public health for most of my career, and have had hsv2 for about 20 years. I don't need medical training to know that you deserve a partner who will be intimate with you. You don't need to settle for abstinence unless you prefer that.
The transmission stats come from the Valtrex study in 2004. We've known those for a really long time. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa035144
Thank you for your responce. The EPIGEN INTIM SPRAY suggest to use for intimacy gynecologist from Ukraine when I was there in 2020. Ofcourse I used this spray when I used Valtrex too. And everybody deside to use this spray or not for protection reason. I know in America not use this EPIGEN INTIM SPRAY but on territory of Ukraine people using and suggest by doctors. Yes right it's not say this spray protect from transmission ...but if you will read how it's medicine effect the virus.... Activated glycyrrhizic acid interrupts viral replication in the early stages, causing the release of the virion from the capsid. Thus, preventing its penetration into the cells.
Pharmacodynamics
The active substance of the drug Epigen intima is activated glycyrrhizic acid, obtained by extraction from plant materials (licorice root).
Activated glycyrrhizic acid has a complex effect, which includes immunostimulating, antiviral, anti-inflammatory and regenerating effects.
Activated glycyrrhizic acid induces the production of its own interferons. The immunostimulating effect is manifested by an increase in the number and activity of T-lymphocytes, a decrease in the concentration of immunoglobulin G and an increase in the concentration of immunoglobulin A and M.
Activated glycyrrhizic acid has an antiviral effect on various types of DNA and RNA viruses in vitro, in vivo (Varicella Zoster; herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2; cytomegalovirus, various types of human papillomavirus, including oncogenic ones). Activated glycyrrhizic acid interrupts viral replication in the early stages, causing the release of the virion from the capsid. Thus, preventing its penetration into the cells. Activated glycyrrhizic acid inactivates these viruses in non-toxic concentrations for normally functioning cells. Mutant strains of viruses resistant to acyclovir and iodouridine are also highly sensitive to glycyrrhizic acid, as are non-mutant strains.
The anti-inflammatory activity of activated glycyrrhizic acid is combined with a stimulating effect on humoral and cellular immunity factors. Activated glycyrrhizic acid significantly inhibits the release of kinins and the synthesis of prostaglandins by connective tissue cells in the area of inflammation. The regenerating effect is due to the improvement in the repair of the skin and mucous membranes.
Indications for use
infection caused by the herpes simplex virus (acute primary and recurrent course);
prevention of recurrence of herpes infection; treatment of herpes zoster caused by the Varicella Zoster virus (as part of combination therapy);
treatment of papillomavirus infection caused by various types (including oncogenic) of the human papillomavirus;
treatment of nonspecific colpitis and vaginosis, normalization of the vaginal microflora;
prevention of infections during unprotected sex
Ofcource I don't make commercial for this EPIGEN INTIM SPAY and confirm that this medicine protect to transmit virus. But we use when we have intimacy on that time and it's work. I just want to share this information about EPIGEN INTIM SPRAY with other people and share that this medicine people using in other country and gynecologists suggest to use this spray.
Thank you that you did write your opinion about abstinence in my personal life. Ofcourse I'm not prefer this and try to prove to my partner by information from internet that if I will using Valtrex 1 gm and condoms he will be protected by 99%. I want to provide him correct information this why I ask question if you have medical education when you answered on my question first time. Nothing personal. We used also phycologist session but it's not work for us at all. And I printed to my partner information about how work Valtrex 1 gm from internet and about Epigen Intim Spay. And he told me that he understend all this information right but inside he not feel confident and protected to have intimacy with me.
Thank you that helping by answering our questions. It's help me emotionally to go through difficult time. Thank you.
Pharmacodynamics
The active substance of the drug Epigen intima is activated glycyrrhizic acid, obtained by extraction from plant materials (licorice root).
Activated glycyrrhizic acid has a complex effect, which includes immunostimulating, antiviral, anti-inflammatory and regenerating effects.
Activated glycyrrhizic acid induces the production of its own interferons. The immunostimulating effect is manifested by an increase in the number and activity of T-lymphocytes, a decrease in the concentration of immunoglobulin G and an increase in the concentration of immunoglobulin A and M.
Activated glycyrrhizic acid has an antiviral effect on various types of DNA and RNA viruses in vitro, in vivo (Varicella Zoster; herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2; cytomegalovirus, various types of human papillomavirus, including oncogenic ones). Activated glycyrrhizic acid interrupts viral replication in the early stages, causing the release of the virion from the capsid. Thus, preventing its penetration into the cells. Activated glycyrrhizic acid inactivates these viruses in non-toxic concentrations for normally functioning cells. Mutant strains of viruses resistant to acyclovir and iodouridine are also highly sensitive to glycyrrhizic acid, as are non-mutant strains.
The anti-inflammatory activity of activated glycyrrhizic acid is combined with a stimulating effect on humoral and cellular immunity factors. Activated glycyrrhizic acid significantly inhibits the release of kinins and the synthesis of prostaglandins by connective tissue cells in the area of inflammation. The regenerating effect is due to the improvement in the repair of the skin and mucous membranes.
Indications for use
infection caused by the herpes simplex virus (acute primary and recurrent course);
prevention of recurrence of herpes infection; treatment of herpes zoster caused by the Varicella Zoster virus (as part of combination therapy);
treatment of papillomavirus infection caused by various types (including oncogenic) of the human papillomavirus;
treatment of nonspecific colpitis and vaginosis, normalization of the vaginal microflora;
prevention of infections during unprotected sex
Ofcource I don't make commercial for this EPIGEN INTIM SPAY and confirm that this medicine protect to transmit virus. But we use when we have intimacy on that time and it's work. I just want to share this information about EPIGEN INTIM SPRAY with other people and share that this medicine people using in other country and gynecologists suggest to use this spray.
Thank you that you did write your opinion about abstinence in my personal life. Ofcourse I'm not prefer this and try to prove to my partner by information from internet that if I will using Valtrex 1 gm and condoms he will be protected by 99%. I want to provide him correct information this why I ask question if you have medical education when you answered on my question first time. Nothing personal. We used also phycologist session but it's not work for us at all. And I printed to my partner information about how work Valtrex 1 gm from internet and about Epigen Intim Spay. And he told me that he understend all this information right but inside he not feel confident and protected to have intimacy with me.
Thank you that helping by answering our questions. It's help me emotionally to go through difficult time. Thank you.
I've had hsv2 for a long time, and personally, I couldn't be with a partner who was afraid to be intimate with me.
I understand that no one wants to get herpes, but what he's essentially saying to you is that he doesn't think your relationship will last long enough to sustain a very small risk.
Or he's asexual and is using your herpes as an excuse. There aren't many adults who would be abstinent this long and be okay with it.
I'm sorry he feels that way. You deserve to have the relationship you desire.
I understand that no one wants to get herpes, but what he's essentially saying to you is that he doesn't think your relationship will last long enough to sustain a very small risk.
Or he's asexual and is using your herpes as an excuse. There aren't many adults who would be abstinent this long and be okay with it.
I'm sorry he feels that way. You deserve to have the relationship you desire.
Thank you for your answer. All this 5 year we have intimacy. But all this issue start last couple month. And he told me for all this time that I push him to have intimacy. I feel so awful...feel that Im not any more attractive for him..feel Im so durty that he don't want to have intimacy with me. This feelings destroy me from inside. And same time I love him and he say that he love me too..First I thought that he have somebody outside...but he told that he doesn't have no body...and he told me that he want to continue our relationship. I don't know what to do in this situation. Because I really love him and don't want to broke our relationship.
So all of a sudden he's afraid of getting it? And he hasn't been for the past 4+ years?
I'd really challenge that. What's changed? Has he developed a fear of germs? Has he suddenly lost interest in sex? Has he become interested in someone else? Have you had more outbreaks?
Will he go to couples therapy?
I'd really challenge that. What's changed? Has he developed a fear of germs? Has he suddenly lost interest in sex? Has he become interested in someone else? Have you had more outbreaks?
Will he go to couples therapy?
Thank you that continue to answer me. If I understand him correct he afraid of getting from me genital herpes. And ofcource all this years I did everything to protect him to give him virus. I always take Valtrex 1 gm and used EPIGEN INTIM SPAY. Even I bought him special shampoo that you can used after intimacy that protect from a lot STD. I know you a little skeptical about this because it's not use in America. But use in another country. If you just interesting or any body else I will wright name of this shampoo on the next comment. But all medicine work because he took test for HSV-2 and it's show negative. I think that one the reason he avoid intimacy with me because he go to 3 different doctors. And all of this 3 doctors told him that even condom doesn't protect him to get virus....and it's better to avoid sex with person who have genital herpes. After he told me this I ask him did you explain to all this doctors that I took Valtrex 1 gm, EPIGEN INTIM SPRAY,that you using shampoo after intimacy...all this thing protection we use did you tell them about it?? Ofcource he know I take some medicine but he have doesn't know name and he know we use spay but doesn't know name too...and he did not tell this information to doctor. And on his mind his stock what ever doctors suggest him... And it's really make me mad about him that he not provide all this infromation and he trust doctors more than for me...First I was thinking that he doing this for purpose and he just want to quick our realtionship. But he doesn't want to stop our relationship. And he told me that is phycologically issue that I'm atrractive to him but on his brain give him rstriction that intimacy with me dangerous to him....Then we start session with phycologist and it doesn't help to us...actually he wasn't belive that it's help him. After I did go by myself for session she suggest to speak with him and ask specific questions. For example...How do you see our realtionship with out intimacy? His answer was" Well we love each other we can continue to live together with out intimacy" Actually I try to everything to change his mind to avoid sex with me. I think maybe I need to be more attractive to him and wearing costume of nurse and did more effective make up and wear beutuful underwear...but nothing of this not work too...inside him big signs DO NOT HAVE INTIMACY WITH ME. I don't know what to do? How to change this situation? I feel that I come to end of the road and do know where to go, I feel I be in an impasse. This why I start to write on this chat and ask what information I can provide to my partner to change his mind about it and prove him that intimacy with me not dangerous to his health. Thank you again for all your support and answers. I really appreciate. And God bless you for helping people.
I agree that you're at an impasse. I'm very sorry for that. I couldn't settle for a relationship with no intimacy.
You've been together a long time. What difference would it make if he got it? Is he planning on the relationship not working, so he'd have to tell future partners he has herpes?
I think you've tried everything you can try. I really do wish you the best. <3
You've been together a long time. What difference would it make if he got it? Is he planning on the relationship not working, so he'd have to tell future partners he has herpes?
I think you've tried everything you can try. I really do wish you the best. <3
Thank you for response. Depend of all information that I wrote before about issue of partner to have intimacy with me. If you will be in my situation what do you think I need to tell him to change his mind? I just try to talk to him about this subjec. And just to prove that intimacy with me not dangerous for him if we will you all trotections.
I don't know. I think you've told him everything there is to tell him, and I wouldn't want to be with someone I had to all but beg to be with me.
I think you need to determine if you've done enough convincing, and decide if you can live like this or not.
I think you need to determine if you've done enough convincing, and decide if you can live like this or not.
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