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Oral Sex Performed on High Risk HPV Girl
Hello everyone.
I'm a 21 year old male who had a bad encounter recently. I recently performed oral sex on a female twice, for about five mins each time (two separate days). Even though i asked her prior to this if she had anything i needed to worry about, she later felt guilty and told me she was diagnosed with High risk HPV two years ago, and had Leep done in January. I performed oral sex on her on Oct 16 and then again maybe a week or two into November. In the middle of this, she had a Pap Smear done, that revealed everything was still abnormal and she's most likely going to need a second round of LEEP. Prior to this i have only had sex with a female who was a virgin; she had no type of sexual relationships or a boyfriend before me, so prior infections for me is out the picture.
Recently i have been having a burning sensation in back of my throat, a metallic taste on the right side of my mouth, and my tongue had been feeling weird. Also my jaw as been feeling sore, and i feel like something is stuck in my lower throat, Should I be worried about oral transmission of HPV? Is oral cancer I should consider? I don't smoke, and just drink an average amount on weekends. I saw a Nurse Practitioner who said my chances we less than 5% for sure, and a Physician Assistant who said i shouldn't even worry about it. I'm curious what other people think from experience/knowledge.
She also said she didn't have the warts kind of HPV so getting warts is not a concern.
Another detail is that my wisdom teeth have not fully come in. I don't like sharing this, because i don't want things to be overlooked due to the thought of "of your wisdom teeth are coming in"
Thank you
I'm a 21 year old male who had a bad encounter recently. I recently performed oral sex on a female twice, for about five mins each time (two separate days). Even though i asked her prior to this if she had anything i needed to worry about, she later felt guilty and told me she was diagnosed with High risk HPV two years ago, and had Leep done in January. I performed oral sex on her on Oct 16 and then again maybe a week or two into November. In the middle of this, she had a Pap Smear done, that revealed everything was still abnormal and she's most likely going to need a second round of LEEP. Prior to this i have only had sex with a female who was a virgin; she had no type of sexual relationships or a boyfriend before me, so prior infections for me is out the picture.
Recently i have been having a burning sensation in back of my throat, a metallic taste on the right side of my mouth, and my tongue had been feeling weird. Also my jaw as been feeling sore, and i feel like something is stuck in my lower throat, Should I be worried about oral transmission of HPV? Is oral cancer I should consider? I don't smoke, and just drink an average amount on weekends. I saw a Nurse Practitioner who said my chances we less than 5% for sure, and a Physician Assistant who said i shouldn't even worry about it. I'm curious what other people think from experience/knowledge.
She also said she didn't have the warts kind of HPV so getting warts is not a concern.
Another detail is that my wisdom teeth have not fully come in. I don't like sharing this, because i don't want things to be overlooked due to the thought of "of your wisdom teeth are coming in"
Thank you
4) Try to relax. I do the same thing I think you are doing. You get fixated on something, notice little variations in how you feel, and attribute those feelings to the thing you are fixated on.
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Let me try to go through your questions and answer them as best I can- there's a lot here. As always, I'm going to preface it with the reminder that I'm not a doctor. What I know comes from reading about the virus, everything I've learned from the Drs here on MedHelp, and my own doctors.
As for your first post- yes, I do believe that's a lot of money to do that for a few reasons. First, like I said, oral HPV is pretty rare, it's unlikely you had it in the first place. Second, even if you did get it, it would most likely clear on its own within two years at the most (remember that 90% or more clear the virus within two years, and the remainder most likely after that). Third, and DON'T freak out about this, but the chances are good that at some point in your life, you're going to contract genital HPV anyway. Probably not in the oral cavity (even if there is a small chance of that), but 80-90% of people contract HPV at some point in their lives, and for the vast majority of them, the virus comes and goes without causing problems. Are you going to go get tested for HPV every time you have an exposure? You'll be spending a lot of money very quickly. For those reasons, I'd say save your money. But, it is your money, and you can do with it what you please. I wouldn't get tested though if I were you.
Second, I'm not sure if length of time has anything to do with chances of contracting an STD, but from what I've read, Dr. Hook hit the nail on the head. There is no STD where the majority of exposures lead to contracting the virus. For example, I read somewhere that the risk of catching HIV from one unprotected sexual exposure with someone who is HIV-positive is something like 1 in 500. That's too high for my comfort to ever take that chance, but still, pretty low.
If I understand your story correctly, there is a good chance that you came into contact with the virus, but I say that it is a low likelihood that you will get oral HPV because the virus doesn't really take hold in the mouth. HPV strains "like" certain areas of the body (the warts you would get on your hand don't show up on your genitals and vice versa, for example). That's not to say it doesn't happen, but it's just extremely, extremely rare. For example, my dermatologist, who sees thousands of patients per year told me that they "never" see anyone with oral HPV warts.
In all likelihood, people come into contact with HPV via oral sex all the time, but the rates of oral HPV are pretty low. They are growing, but they are still extremely low. So, what I'm saying is that even if you did come into contact with the HPV virus for 10 minutes orally, the chances of it transferring to your mouth are quite low. Low enough that I wouldn't give them a second thought.
And yes, you shouldn't compare cold viruses and mono to HPV. They're different viruses and act in different ways. If all viruses acted the same way, you could plausibly catch HIV from someone sneezing next to you on a plane, which, of course, is ridiculous.
As for your first post- yes, I do believe that's a lot of money to do that for a few reasons. First, like I said, oral HPV is pretty rare, it's unlikely you had it in the first place. Second, even if you did get it, it would most likely clear on its own within two years at the most (remember that 90% or more clear the virus within two years, and the remainder most likely after that). Third, and DON'T freak out about this, but the chances are good that at some point in your life, you're going to contract genital HPV anyway. Probably not in the oral cavity (even if there is a small chance of that), but 80-90% of people contract HPV at some point in their lives, and for the vast majority of them, the virus comes and goes without causing problems. Are you going to go get tested for HPV every time you have an exposure? You'll be spending a lot of money very quickly. For those reasons, I'd say save your money. But, it is your money, and you can do with it what you please. I wouldn't get tested though if I were you.
Second, I'm not sure if length of time has anything to do with chances of contracting an STD, but from what I've read, Dr. Hook hit the nail on the head. There is no STD where the majority of exposures lead to contracting the virus. For example, I read somewhere that the risk of catching HIV from one unprotected sexual exposure with someone who is HIV-positive is something like 1 in 500. That's too high for my comfort to ever take that chance, but still, pretty low.
If I understand your story correctly, there is a good chance that you came into contact with the virus, but I say that it is a low likelihood that you will get oral HPV because the virus doesn't really take hold in the mouth. HPV strains "like" certain areas of the body (the warts you would get on your hand don't show up on your genitals and vice versa, for example). That's not to say it doesn't happen, but it's just extremely, extremely rare. For example, my dermatologist, who sees thousands of patients per year told me that they "never" see anyone with oral HPV warts.
In all likelihood, people come into contact with HPV via oral sex all the time, but the rates of oral HPV are pretty low. They are growing, but they are still extremely low. So, what I'm saying is that even if you did come into contact with the HPV virus for 10 minutes orally, the chances of it transferring to your mouth are quite low. Low enough that I wouldn't give them a second thought.
And yes, you shouldn't compare cold viruses and mono to HPV. They're different viruses and act in different ways. If all viruses acted the same way, you could plausibly catch HIV from someone sneezing next to you on a plane, which, of course, is ridiculous.
I read somewhere from dr. EWH, that there is no STD where the majority of exposure to it, causes an infection. With this in mind, you think this applies even more, knowing that my exposure was limited (combine ten mins; 5 min each time. which is actually on the long side, just want to make sure i'm not underestimating it). I guess this is my main question: are my chacnes of getting it low because i may not have come in contact with the virus? or it just something where, just because i'm exposed to it doesn't mean i will get it. So the hypothetical would be, if the virus was actively there, and got in my mouth, are you saying my chances are low, because it may not affect me or "take hold". I guess i'm thinking of this in the sense of how people get colds, and then if you kiss them you may get a cold, or someone who has mono can easily pass it on if you kiss them/share a drink. Are those things just way more contagious, and shouldn't be compared? Thank you. once agin. I value your opinion, and have already eased a lot of tension.
Thank you very much for your reply. I do contribute slight variation to this thought of HPV, and today i was completely forgetting about it (had not thought about it in a week), and I check my email and noticed I missed an Email from the dentist saying they offer OralDNA which test for HPV in the mouth. It would cost 125 dollars to have that done AND an oral exam screening where they check for abnormal cell growth. To me, thats a good amount of money so wanted to know if i would be wasting my money, and additionally, if i did contract it, if within a few months it would take care of itself like you said, and traces of the HPV would be unnoticeable. Thank you for your thoughts, as it seems you may have had your share of doctors talk to you.
chances are least, oral sex doesn't contribute much of HPV cause you worry to much. have your self check to have an accurate diagnosis to your self.
First, I've never heard of the symptoms you describe as being indicative of HPV. If she does, in fact, still have high-risk HPV, and you caught it via oral sex, I doubt you'd have any symptoms like that, and almost certainly not as fast as you're describing (just a few months).
Still, all this speculation is sort of a moot point. Even if she does have high risk HPV, your chances of catching it via oral sex are low. And even if you DID, the chances of it progressing to oral cancer are even lower. Think of it this way- you know how widespread HPV is, right? 80-90% of people catch it at some point in their lives. Okay, keep that in mind. That's millions and millions and millions of people. How widespread do you think oral sex is? My guess, VERY widespread. Keep THAT in mind. Each year in the United States, less than 10,000 people develop oral cancer related to HPV. That is a REALLY, REALLY small amount. Think of all the people who have HPV and how many people probably engage in oral sex. HPV just doesn't seem to take in the oral cavity very well when you think about how many people are exposed to it.
Personally, if I had to guess, you've got your mind so set on HPV that you are paying attention to little pains and discomforts that you would ignore if you weren't thinking about it so much. It could be your wisdom teeth, or it could be something else.
These are the points you should keep in mind:
1) Catching HPV via oral sex is rare, and getting oral cancer as a result of HPV is almost impossibly rare. (Oral warts are usually only seen in people with seriously depleted immune systems, like if they are HIV positive, for example).
2) You should listen to your doctors. They are right. Your chances of having any sort of noticeable medical problem as a result of your encounter with the girl are really, really small. I'd guess far less than the 5% your one nurse practitioner said.
3) Even if you did catch HPV in your mouth, 90+% of people clear the virus within a few months anyway, you'd probably fall into that majority (provided you are healthy).
4) Try to relax. I do the same thing I think you are doing. You get fixated on something, notice little variations in how you feel, and attribute those feelings to the thing you are fixated on.
I have to tell you, I'm no doctor, but I think you're going to be just fine and will never have any real adverse problems associated with giving the girl oral. If you are really concerned, go see a specialist, but I think you'd be wasting your money.
Still, all this speculation is sort of a moot point. Even if she does have high risk HPV, your chances of catching it via oral sex are low. And even if you DID, the chances of it progressing to oral cancer are even lower. Think of it this way- you know how widespread HPV is, right? 80-90% of people catch it at some point in their lives. Okay, keep that in mind. That's millions and millions and millions of people. How widespread do you think oral sex is? My guess, VERY widespread. Keep THAT in mind. Each year in the United States, less than 10,000 people develop oral cancer related to HPV. That is a REALLY, REALLY small amount. Think of all the people who have HPV and how many people probably engage in oral sex. HPV just doesn't seem to take in the oral cavity very well when you think about how many people are exposed to it.
Personally, if I had to guess, you've got your mind so set on HPV that you are paying attention to little pains and discomforts that you would ignore if you weren't thinking about it so much. It could be your wisdom teeth, or it could be something else.
These are the points you should keep in mind:
1) Catching HPV via oral sex is rare, and getting oral cancer as a result of HPV is almost impossibly rare. (Oral warts are usually only seen in people with seriously depleted immune systems, like if they are HIV positive, for example).
2) You should listen to your doctors. They are right. Your chances of having any sort of noticeable medical problem as a result of your encounter with the girl are really, really small. I'd guess far less than the 5% your one nurse practitioner said.
3) Even if you did catch HPV in your mouth, 90+% of people clear the virus within a few months anyway, you'd probably fall into that majority (provided you are healthy).
4) Try to relax. I do the same thing I think you are doing. You get fixated on something, notice little variations in how you feel, and attribute those feelings to the thing you are fixated on.
I have to tell you, I'm no doctor, but I think you're going to be just fine and will never have any real adverse problems associated with giving the girl oral. If you are really concerned, go see a specialist, but I think you'd be wasting your money.
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