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Certain high-risk Human Papillomaviruses (HPV) are the major causative agents of cervical
cancer. High-risk HPVs have also been detected in oral squamous cell carcinomas (OSCC)
and have been suggested to play a role in the carcinogenesis of OSCC. Available reports have,
however, shown inconclusive low to high prevalence of HPV infection in both patients and
healthy control individuals. The aim of this case-control study was therefore to look for
further evidence for the hypothesis that HPV infection is a risk factor for OSCC. For this
purpose, samples from 94 patients diagnosed with OSCC together with 143 age and sex
matched healthy individuals were analysed by PCR and reverse dot blot hybridization for the
presence of high-risk HPV types. The results showed an HPV prevalence of 64% among the
patients, whereas no HPV was found among the healthy individuals. Of the HPV positive
patients 83% tested positive for the high-risk HPV type 16. Other types found were HPV 18,
33, 35, 52 and 59. Conclusions: Patients diagnosed with OSCC did show a high prevalence of
HPV infection, most commonly HPV16, whereas none of the healthy individuals in this study
showed a positive result. These results strongly support other studies made with the
conclusion that HPV is a risk factor for the development of OSCC.  
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byt are you going to lick ***** ?
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I'm over this thread.  I'm going to continue to eat ***** and let my dick get sucked for the rest of my life I don't care if I die of throat cancer in forty years.  
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yes the have, and even if some gets oralcancer and "only" have HPV and no others cofactors, i have read perhaps 15-25 %, the risk i very very smal , is it 7000 case of toncillcancer in usa and 5000 of these are men that mean that 1250 men gets toncilcancer whitout cofactor as smoking and drinking, at least the say so.. :) 1250 in USA thats not a big problem, and we dont no if the have
other factors that may not be asked in the survey, bisexual,
dental health, HIV, drugs when all that counts off, I do not think there are many perfectly healthy men left with no other risk factors that have had oral cancer in an otherwise healthy mucosa, where the cause is HPV infection, I could be wrong but even if I have it, it is an almost very smal number of people, if I compare it to cases in Sweden we have 250 cases with toncilcancer 80% have HPV, it becomes 200, 33% are women and 30% are smokers still get the 90 men, of a population of 9 million.
They say that it is strange that the cases will be more when smoking is declining, but because it takes about 15-20 years to get cancer, it is not surprising that it began to increase in 1970, in the 60's smoked 50% and these began to suffer in 1975 - 1990



http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/561285_4
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The news articles in the mainstream media said the increase in men getting oral HPV cancer is in the population of heterosexual men providing oral sex on women. The media did not mention gays. So perhaps HPV-16 on the penis is less likely to spread the virus than HPV-16 in the cervix. The gay population has far more to worry about than the heterosexual population...HIV, herpes, and so on. Gays do have issues of anal HPV though.
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you write So where are the alarming news articles about growth of oral cancer in lesbians?

perhaps it dosen´t infect easy this way... and dont easy to men that have oralsex whit a women, same case.... so then the increas cancer among men must be in the gaypopulation ?? do you think this is the case ??


it would at least be an explanation for all of our speculations, might want to not proceed with this as clear in the tests
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I just saw a link saying there is an increase in oral cancer among young women since 1970. However they ruled out HPV as a cause. Also ruled out smoking and alcohol

???? what is then left ???
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the say that the virus is in the fluid of the womens sex to, but i think that saliva should kill virus.... is not easy to know, the only thing i know is that if I get oral cancer i Would be a medical sensation.... as you write bigger risk in trafik.

Its strange tha women dont get HPV problems in mouth more, when you think of penis in mouth, så perhaps the cause is that men smok and drink more ??
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and one thing, lesbians arent many, when cancer growth among men its all men and not only gay

so the large increase is probably among heterosexual men, not among gay
for then there would be a greater increase of lesbians with
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I just saw a link saying there is an increase in oral cancer among young women since 1970. However they ruled out HPV as a cause. Also ruled out smoking and alcohol. They also said the numbers are still far lower than other cancers, so not to be alarmed. This was dated recently, March 11. I also was wondering how HPV-16 can get to the back of the throat in heterosexual men who perform oral on women. Unless saliva carries it? But then I thought it was all about skin to skin. I suspected a penis in the mouth would get back to the throat and HPV-16 will spread skin to skin that way. I guess I am clueless.
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firm probably is not as common in HPV lesbians, it spread not so
easily by mouth, but most easily via the penetration of an infected penis
Interestingly o know if there are numbers of HPV infection among lesbians, you know something?
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One of the doctors also mentioned that lesbians are no less likely to get HPV than straights. So where are the alarming news articles about growth of oral cancer in lesbians?

lesbians are therefore just as likely, perhaps more likely is it you mean? to
the risk is less for lesbians, which I, despite all investigations
think it should be, the friction of a penis in the mouth should be bigger
risk.

but you have a point
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I am not sure who posted it, could have been you, that oral cancer among men is increasing at an annual 5% rate. In 14 years that means it will double. The number is still small. Relative to a smoker or heavy drinker, the statistic is large. Relative to the total population of people who never show symptoms of oral lesions, the number is tiny.

Logically, HPV-16, being non-detectable, may have once been active, but non-detectable on my penis.  I used condoms over 90% of my sex partners. There is a chance I had active HPV-16 on my penis while getting oral sex. I cannot logically assume their chances of getting oral HPV-16 are any lower than a man's. I think it is equal. It is still direct contact with HPV-16. Spread from vagina to penis (skin to skin), then penis to mouth.

One of the doctors also mentioned that lesbians are no less likely to get HPV than straights. So where are the alarming news articles about growth of oral cancer in lesbians?

I am still skeptical. Yes with my knowledge of HPV I certainly am far more careful about sex.

Read some of Dr. Handsfield's writings about oral HPV. You are better off worrying about safe driving than getting oral cancer particularly if you do not smoke, drink moderately or less, stay in shape, eat right, get regular checkups, and take good care of your teeth and gums.
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http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/hpv/pdf/Lack%20of%20tobacco%20association_HPV_2007.pdf
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a bit strange, however, that lung cancer is increasing quite a lot of women since
1970 but remains stable or decreased among men, now about oral cancer, smoking
which should cause cancer increases for women and not men.
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now I have surfed and read a lot of serious testing for oncogenic HPV-how its
developed and what is needed more than "just" virus almost all tests
demonstrates the need of cofactorer and that this virus not alone is
oncogenic, smoking and drinking is the most common especially in combination, but
including HIV, diabetes or other immune diseases. Marijuana is a major risk factor
as well as poverty and poor education, which might sound strange but these
probably have poor dental health.
That you then can find tons of videos on youtube of old ladies and old men
warns of oral sex .... what do they know anyway? it is probably more of a moral
wishful thinking. The cancer is increasing despite the fact that smoking is declining is nothing
while simultaneously saying that it takes 15-20 years to develop cancer,
smoking  come down only now in recent times.
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143 age and sex
matched !!

I have read reviews that claim that HPV is much easier transferred to the mouth when
a man performing oral sex on a woman than when a woman gives a man blowjob
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Yes, I think I saw this before. Now it makes you wonder about those 143  which no HPV was found.  What were their ages? How many of those 143 HAD HPV-16, but it went into such a low level of dormancy that it "cleared" the body? If any of those 143 had, but no longer have detectable oral HPV-16, one can make a new conclusion about the seriousness of this issue. If those 143 people were all 22 years old on the average, maybe having one or two lifetime oral partners, it is one thing.

I am not in the medical field, but I can still discuss the quality of these studies!

Note that oral sex has been around for decades, popularized by Linda Lovelace in Deep Throat. Note that for decades men have alternatingly inserted their erections in a woman's mouth and vagina. Note again the recent headlines has been aBout the escalating numbers of oral cancer in MEN, but where are the headlines about increase of cancer from oral HPV in women? My theory is that there is a natural limit to the percent of fivers who get the C.

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