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fair or no???

Okay, I need outside opinions and if I am wrong for this, you ladies can say so because I'd like to know. I have 3 months left and my husband and I started discussing immunizations as well as religion for the baby. I personally don't want her vaccinated but, he does. Now, I'm a Catholic and he's a Christian and he wants her to be Christian but, I feel as if its only fair if I'm going to be the one taking her to church and that he gets his way with the vaccinations, that its only fair she be Catholic like me. I know it sounds slightly childish but, there's no room for compromise with him so that's how it has to be. He thinks I'm rude for making her be Catholic but, then again I don't want her immunized. Any advice or opinions???

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Vaccination is a very touchy subject! I have learned this the hard way i choose to not vaccinate and ud never kno the difference my son is healthy as could !! They have so many studies both ways we chose not to we may when hes older but at this point no.. ppl freak out when u say ur not gonna vaccinate .. it should be a be both parents choice though .. it would be so hard if my boyfriend  and i didnt support each other on this topic .. in an above comment it said that ur child will not be able to attend a public school if not vaccinated .. that is true in some areas .. where i live its not you can still go to school and play sports when not vaccinated its a very tuff decision to make .. u have to go with what u think is best for your child .. spec since not all children r the same and not all children can build there own immune system
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3062962 tn?1406743961
by "married in the church" I did not mean the building, I meant the religion. if you are Catholic and want your marriage to be recognized by the church, you either need a.special dispensation from a bishop to marry outside the faith/get married in a place other than the church but in the presence of the Eucharist/etc. or you need to marry another Catholic in the church. in either case, many priests will also require premarital counseling either through the priest or a program such as engaged encounters.
anyway, when you marry outside the faith and get a dispensation, one of the things you agree to is raising the.children Catholic until their confirmation when the church believes children are old enough to decide for themselves.
I'm not trying to be a know it all b***h, but please don't tell me I don't understand my own religion. of course, if you aren't very religious and.don't mind that your marriage isn't recognized by the.church then you made no such agreement.
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8765505 tn?1399764936
I'm catholic and my partner is a Catholic too (like the vast majority of people here in Ireland)

For me religion was never an issue -
Our first daughter was baptised and this baby will be too.

When the kids are 4/5yrs old they MUST be baptised to go to the local school.

Baptismal certificate has to be given to enroll your child.  And again for communion confo etc...

Growing up we were just thought roman Catholic religon - & told protestants were going to hell . Lol never knew about any other religion as a child.  

We don't pray daily or follow crazy rules but yet I insist my children are baptised.  Strange eh?

If I was you I'd put them through baptism at least. But again thats because my culture has me convinced unbaptised people don't go to heaven. And as silly as it sounds even to me I'd still worry if they weren't.  

As for immunisation I think they are important - and even if some don't do much at least you've tried.
However usa has alot of vaccinations we don't have here.
My nephew ended up in icu at 3yrs old because his mammy didn't get him the swine flu jab!
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So happy I don't believe in god for this very reason lol
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10515800 tn?1419227034
Just because you get married in a Catholic church does not mean you are agreeing to raise your child as a catholic... my dad is a baptist preacher and my brother in laws family is catholic.... my sister and her husband got married in that church, because it was a gorgeous church and my dad even did the ceremony. Just cause you get married in a certain church does not mean that's the religion of your child...smh
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10515800 tn?1419227034
LadyBeeley pretty much said it perfectly.
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Why would you not want to get your baby immunized?
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I don't vaccinate my baby is perfectly healthy. A Dr actual maker of a vaccine came out recently as a whistleblower stating they change the study results(you can Google stories) also look up vaccine court stories they make sure they are not held responsible if anything were to happen to your child. I cannot take that risk. Its ultimately up to you do your own research not just listening to moms who do it or don't. Google the ingredients alone they are very disturbing
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My husband is Buddhist and I was brought up catholic. Although I'm not religious my family is and my husband and I decided the best thing would be to expose our kids to both religions and when they're old enough to decide which is best for them then they can decide. If you're the one taking your baby to church then it would make sense you take her to yours and if your husband is taking her he should take her to his. It's a tough situation when both sides are so adamant. Good luck! I think compromise is the only peaceful solution here
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And you did ask us if we felt you were right or wrong so you shouldnt get mad. This is really a choice you should make on your own. All we can do is voice our opinions and have you dispute them. Its a very argumentative aapproach. Like I said. Just ask your pediatrician if they believe what you do about unvaccinated people having strongest immune systems.
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We are having both our babies baptized when baby 2 is born by a "all-denominational" church that believes that salvation for the child is important, not sticking them to a religion.
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Why would you force your child into your religion? And btw Catholicism IS Christianity. There is no such thing as Catholic OR Christian. I was raised Lutheran,  attended Catholic school and CHOSE the faith that fits how I want to practice my own beliefs which is my right to not have anyones religion pushed on me. Bf is southern Baptist.  We practice faith our own way. We will pray as a family and discuss Christ's life as a family. We will go to both Churchs with the children and when they are old enough to understand differences we will help them explore all religious avenues and help them find one that identifies with them. RELIGION is NOT important. FAITH is. If youre stuck only about religion then you may not be focused on the important thing here which is simply having a close relationship with God. Who knows. My daughter could become an Atheist and thats ok thats her right.

As for vaccines every study claiming thsy have been linked to Autism has been debunked for over a decade. They are now trying to blame Autism on the mother eating too much fastfood during pregnancy. I worked department of mental health for the state of missouri for 2 1/2yrs so dont bother believing that bs. A few articles on the internet are not enough evidence, considering I can find articles claiming dinosaurs never existed and that the sun still revolves around the earth. If you want to only home school your child then dont bother with shots. But also dont be mad when another parenrs childgets sick from a disease your child has and they take you to court and beat you out of eeverything you have. There is NO reason not to and that has been proven. Call and speak with ANY number of pediatricians. Also they will be disqualified for so many jobs, and if as an adult they choose to get vaccinanted they will be in so much more pain and in serious danger bc they have ZERO defense in their grown up blood stream. They will never get to travel either. You take so much away from your childs life for whatever reason you feel justifies making them vulnerable to death at an early age when its your job to protect them.
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My kids were all vaccinated for chicken pox and year before last they all got chicken pox... they don't always work and like I said if we were ment to be vaccinated we would be born immune....
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Ino two other children that had seizures after the MMR vaccine and I will also not be giving my newborn the hep b because WHY?! My cold is not being exposed to anything that would need that. Once my child's is old enough to handle the vaccine I will do it. I also agree that vaccines cause autism and life long seizures and it is so sad this child was perfectly healthy before the MMR I just can't believe doctor's make you put all that poison and aluminum into such a small little human. As for the religion I think you should do both I mean why not? Your child can choose which one she wants to pursue when she gets older. Sorry you are going thru all of that just over religion
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I don't believe in vaccinations myself. I think God will take care of that but I did not want to have to fight with the public schools... so I vaccinated my children. I just feel if we were ment to be vaccinated we would have been born immune.. you will have a lot of government issues if you don't get your kids vaccinated...  I think if you Are taking your baby to church then you should take the baby to church with you. The baby needs to be christened and all and it's not fair for you to have to do both. If he wants to take the baby to church some then baby can be exposed to both but you should not have to do both.
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I am not even going to comment on the religion issue here. I did not want my kids vaccinated. Most pediatrician will not keep a child in the practice without the vacinations. We came to a compromise where they only get 1 live vaccine at a time. We wait 30 days then go back for the next. My children will never have more than one live at a time. They are still fully protected but not having the little bodies bombard3d. I also checked the schools policy on accepting kids without proof of vaccines and they will NOT accept a child without vaccines. NO acceptions. Do your research before you make that decision.
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9961264 tn?1410873329
I saw that it said you wanted her baptized.. and coming from someone who was baptized , as Lutheran, when they where a baby. I dont remember a thing and u couldnt tell you a thing about the religion and it had no effect on how i was raised and what i believe now.. i really think you should just let your little girl choose when she has an understanding of religion and what it means to be baptized. Now yhat i know i would do it again. But not as lutheran and with the real meaning behind it.. i dont know if this sounded rude at all. But i didnt mean it thqt way. I just thought id give you my opinion on the baptism as a baby thing..
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3062962 tn?1406743961
if you got married in the Catholic church, you agreed to raise your children in the Catholic religion. here's what I would maybe suggest...you take her on Saturdays as most Catholic churches offer Mass after 4 pm and he can take her on Sundays. have her baptized now (per Catholic tradition), but tell him it could be in his church as the Catholic church recognizes protestant baptisms.
maybe see if he would go for that?
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9961264 tn?1410873329
I think with the religion thing you guys could try to find a non-denominational church. eventually it will be up yo her anyway whether she believes because you cant force religion on a child or any person for that matter. But at least with a non denominational church she can learn about the bible and have her own view on religion and what she wants to believe.

As for immunizations, i know you werent really asking about them, but my sister is only getting what the dr. Sayys the baby NEEDS! If it is optional she is going to say no. She doea a pot of research on that stuff and doesnt agree with a lot of it. so you could also do that(:
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My husband was raised Catholic and I'm nondenominational Christian, but because my faith has played a more prominent role we've done religion "my way" for the most part with our son. That being said, when you're married you learn life is better when you learn to incorporate the other person as much as possible, no matter what the differences. Since your husband seems to be digging in on getting his way, I'd suggest trying to bring up alternatives instead of either/or's, like, "What if our child attend mass with me since I go regularly, but could go to a youth group or event at a church you're involved with?" If he ends up not even being that involved in a church it probably won't happen that way, but at least you're giving him options while still holding your ground.
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10311384 tn?1416860935
My husband was catholic but didn't really care much for it. I've only seen him go to his church once and that's because his mom made us for Easter. I grew up christian so it was very different for me. We ended up moving and I started going to my old christian church and for some reason he started to also. He liked it and we agreed to have our baby here. I think it just counts on who is actually willing to take the baby all the time to church and actually teach them about it. This is hard lol Catholics an Christians always argue about this.
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7558356 tn?1410715309
If you ever want your child to attend school, you need to vaccinate. Schools won't accept your child unvaccinated. And how terrible would it be for them to get all their vaccines for the last 5 years at once. Vaccinations do not cause autism and just because your child "appears" healthy doesn't mean something still can't be wrong (is vitamin k vaccine for blood clotting they give at birth, you don't get it, child gets cut on accident, they bleed out.) If your having a boy they won't circumcize him without that vaccine.

As for religion, why don't you raise your child up in both environments as a compromise and then let your child pick when he/she is old enough...?
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10411614 tn?1412273204
I personally feel like vaccines are important I was kinda hesitant to he flu shot but after they explained it to me I felt better just ask the doc to explain the pros and cons and go from their if you still feel like you don't want to do it then don't after all its your child you and your husband will have to come to an agreement though
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Getting your child some shoots is not really that important in my book. They get the antibodies from the mothers milk and the pre milk thats why you should breastfeed. My son is 10 months and still is breastfed and never gotten sick from anything. And so is many other babies i came across,plus if you do the right research it shows that they use aborted fetus cells for those shoots and many other poisons. But that is a choose of course you would have to make for your little one and as far as the religion thing maybe you shouldve married inside your religion (not said in a rude way) but just to avoid something like this
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